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Does anyone hate rap music more than I

  • 05-04-2001 10:45pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭


    i could go on for a couple of hours about how i hate rap music but id take up about 50 pages and noone would read the topic....so heres a competition to see does anyone hate rap/hip hop more than me?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,601 ✭✭✭Kali


    By all means go on for a couple of hours but it will be pointless, I think your looking at the medias portrayal of hip-hop a la Missy G (or whatever), Puff Daddy and Snoop and all that ******, jesus even limp bizkit are considered a hip-hop outfit by some music "critics".

    I'd encourage you to go find some proper hiphop, go download the following three songs, which basically got me into the whole rap end of it (rather than the DJ end of things which I already liked, say Psyence Fiction by Unkle, that end of things) it aint gangster **** or any self-praising crap but genuine music, if you still hate the genre as a whole after listening to them then so be it:

    Blackalicious - Shallow Days
    Blackalicious - Making Progress
    Blackalicious - Sleep
    or in fact the whole Nia album.

    some Jurassic 5 wouldn't go amiss either but doesnt contain half the amount of soul as Blackalicious.

    Dunno what you think of R'n'B (personally not a great fan) but Musiq Soulchild - Aijuswanaseing is one hella good album imo.

    <insert concluding argument here>


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭StarScream


    lol im willing to give anything a try but u gotta understand what im sayin,i will dl those songs though i was complaining about all those rappers who constantly say their own name,take off their shirts,do those ridiculous hand signals and so on.did u hear that "song" by that little 13 year old idiot i mean hes givin it loads i cant stand it,even if tose songs u told me to download are good the genre as a whole has been tainted by this S***


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,601 ✭✭✭Kali


    hehe bow wow wow or something
    shut the **** up you little ******* *kicks bowwow*
    and he goes running off back to mummy ..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Megatron


    now now Starscream please ..
    I can understand about the 13 year old git .
    however give rap a chance ...

    So says your Leader !!! mad.gif

    No !!!!! I will crush you with my Bare hands


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 123 ✭✭Frodo@work


    There is good hip hop out there,try
    A Tribe Called Quest
    DE la Soul
    Dream Warriors
    Public Enemy
    NWA

    any of the old stuff is usally good, it was poof daddy who came and recked it all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 897 ✭✭✭Greenbean


    Na its more than just poof daddy.

    When I think back to the first time I heard rap it was no melody but very in your face. Lines went something along "yo, u-huh, I'm gonna show how I'm the greatest"... so I'm now interested, listening for how he will show me how hes the greatest .."yea, all the honeys want me all night"... still waiting for this amazing melody or break down or something that will wow me "sup, gonna wow you with all my skills" .. still waiting... and so on. Shallow pretentious stuff with no substance, all hype.

    Took me ages to realise this is what people liked, the attitude, the rawness of it all. But I'm afraid I still don't throw it under music, its culture more than anything - its a tribal chant, when it starts sounding melodic its called r&b, and theres were black cultured music gets extremely good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,446 ✭✭✭✭amp


    It's a bit of a broad statement. Rap is a huge genre subdivided into a load of different styles and flava's (ahem). I think you mostly hate Gansta rap, but there are other type of rap.

    I suggest you seek out the following tracks to open your mind:

    Anthrax - I'm the man (1991 remix) - Heavy metal and rap together in (almost) perfect harmony.

    Wycleff Jean (featuring The Rock)- It doesn't matter: Reggae flavoured rap

    Tricky - Black Steel: Industrial style, very dark with very strong semi sung lyrics.

    Most of Ill Communication: Kick ass guitars fused with rap.

    So, boooi. Get down wid da biaaayitchs and scratch some homie hardcore. Werd.

    Lunacy Abounds! Play GLminesweeper!
    art is everything and of course nothing and possibly also a sausage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,425 ✭✭✭Fidelis


    When you say 'rap' music, what exactly do you classify as rap ? Because as Kali has pointed out, there's a big difference between hip hip/rap/gansta rap etc.

    Pharcyde
    De La Soul
    Herbaliser
    Musiq Soulchild
    Run DMC
    Beastie Boys
    Spooks
    Stetsasonic

    Damn good groups

    Also a great hip hop tune at the moment : Nate Dogg, Mos Def & Pharaohe Monch - Oh No ( Lyricist Lounge )

    Nil Desperandum


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 897 ✭✭✭Greenbean


    When the topic is so broad you've got to argue in broad terms, yep I know of beastie boys, Wycleff Jean and so on, but when someone says "I hate rap" I can be 95% certain they're talking about the popular gangsta rap which is the most prevailent during the nineties, and you can be fairly certain that they haven't looked into it too much to try find the better genres because of the distasteful and boring gangsta rap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭the fnj


    I am not a Rap or R&B fan. The commerical sh*te they sell to kids is rubish. But I would not say I hate rap and mean it. I do tell my mates who listen to it its sh*te but I don't think it's fair to put down every rapper because of the crap that floats to the top. Making statments like that is never a good idea because you will end closing you mind of to a type of music that has been around for years and has it's own place in the music industry.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,425 ✭✭✭Fidelis


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Paladin:
    garage music and trance music</font>

    I believe it's called 'noise' wink.gif

    Nil Desperandum


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Clintons Cat


    current Rap acts that should go sit with Pump Duddy in the Clinton Cat Class Of Shame...
    Destinies Child
    Nelly
    That dreadful Limp Buiskit sub beastie boys effort

    Current rap acts that can hold their own with the original b boys
    Snoop
    Dr Dre
    Eminem
    Spooks
    Outkast
    Ice Cube
    As Frodo sez
    Listen to the lyrics of Boogie Down Productions/Why Is That?,Public Enemy/Fear Of A Black Planet,Ice T/Home Invasion,Ice Cube/War And Peace vol1.
    It will be a revelation to those who think of rap in terms of a one trick pony.
    Ice Cubes Getto Vet is probally one of the most painfully real Gangster Rap songs i have ever heard,it puts all the guns and *****es of p diddy acts were they belong,the w@nc fantasies of 14 year old boys.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭PiE


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Paladin:
    ...trance music...</font>

    Now now! You must like "Silence", everyone likes that song,even moi, and i'm an avid rock fan like yerself! smile.gif

    Oh and Craig David must die for the sake of humanity.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭Paladin


    I do hate underground rap. Especially rap with lyrics like
    "we gonna fuk yo homies and yo bit<hes good we fuk em"

    The only rap id listen to is done to really decent rock music. Cant think of any off hand tho. Some rap can be ok then but i dont like most of it. I like ROCK smile.gif

    Worse than rap tho, is garage music and trance music. I just dont understand how people like it. There is nothing i can listen to, or any argument that I can hear that will ever teach me this. I am simply baffled by its popularity.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,389 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lenny


    Rap is good to chill down to smile.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭Xithus


    Unfortunetely I cant post anything here we havnt already talked about Star,
    wha, wha, wha.. smile.gif

    All in all is all we are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭harVee


    Yeah, it's a bit like saying all country is sh!t. Yes vince gil is a crime against humanity, but Will Oldham, Vic Chesnutt and Calexico are three of the greatest americans producing music at the moment.
    The same can be said of Blackalicious and the whole Quanum collective.
    And without pioneers like Flash and Herc, we wouldn't have bands like RATM (a good thing imo), albums like Kid A (with beats straight outa compton), and pure geniuses such as Beck.
    Remember in every genre there are turnips like Limp Bizcuit (sp?) and garthbrooks. but the Shellacs and Smogs of the world more than make up for them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭harVee


    oh and i challenge you to go on for 50 pages about how much you hate hip hop starscream. in fact first i challenge you to get an orininal name.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 622 ✭✭✭darthmise


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Frodo@work:
    There is good hip hop out there,try
    A Tribe Called Quest
    DE la Soul
    Dream Warriors
    Public Enemy
    NWA

    any of the old stuff is usally good, it was poof daddy who came and recked it all.
    </font>


    Don't give him that much credit please.

    There are still alot of great acts out there still but it just doesn't intrest me anymore.

    Long live the Dogfather.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Clintons Cat


    anyone remember the Disposable Heros Of Hip-Hopcracy?

    Television Drug Of The Nation.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 822 ✭✭✭Kastro


    i love rap music..
    im listining to some right now..
    whats wrong with it???
    give me a ligit reason why you all think its so bad.!

    it aint that bad..
    eminem is a bit of a ponce.
    but he has his fans all around the world.
    dre is an evil fe<k3d up lookin ****er.
    snoop is a smokin the weed mother****er.
    and then theres N.W.A
    niggas with attuide. whats wrong with them?
    i think the only reason you all h8 rap music is because is done by black ppl.
    if so you are all raceist boll0><3s


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 622 ✭✭✭darthmise


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kastro:
    i think the only reason you all h8 rap music is because is done by black ppl.
    if so you are all raceist boll0><3s
    </font>

    Oh grow up ya muppett. rolleyes.gif




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭-Serpico-


    Hey,

    Though I love hiphop almost more than any other genre of music, I can relate to what the man is saying, because my absolute LEAST favorite type of music in the world is BAD hiphop!

    Bad hip hop, the likes of DMX, Missy, Foxy Brown, RuffRyders, Nelly, Ludakris, or any of that other ****e is the most painful sound that could assail your ears! The reason why it's so painful to me is that I know that hip hop can be SO great! Just listen to People Under The Stairs, early MosDef, Company Flow, L-Fudge, Polyrythym Addicts, TribeCalledQuest, Swollen Members, or Jedi Mind Tricks, and you'll discover some of the most amazing music ever.

    However, this is all just a matter of opinion. Some people just don't like hip hop, and it's not, haha, because they're racist! That's like saying the reason I don't like metal is because metalers are all smelly bástards! It's not that at all, it's because metal's shíte! smile.gif

    Serp


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,601 ✭✭✭Kali


    I'm interested to actually see though if any of the many excellent reccomendations have made an impact on the original opinion..

    Starscream?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,425 ✭✭✭Fidelis


    Isn't it Doggfather ? rolleyes.gif

    Anyway, reiterating my point, big difference between gansta rap and hip-hop.

    Serpico showed me Jedi Mind Tricks a while back, excellent stuff smile.gif

    Nil Desperandum


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭StarScream


    yes i can honestly say iv never heard of these groups.....so i dint hate them though its a pain to download em cause napster is messed up now frown.gif
    but im always willing to try new things
    oh and if StarScream is an unoriginal name how was i able to get it? the answer...CAUSE NOONE ELSE HAS IT
    oh and only a really spite filled person would suggest im a racist cause i dont like rap music,answer this...if i dont like country western music does that mean i hate all the people in southern USA? maybe now ull realise how ridiculous that comment was


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Clintons Cat


    this site usually has a song or two to download.
    http://www.publicenemy.com
    http://www.publicenemy.com/mpe.php

    After the Rodney King Riots a serious ammount of political pressure was put on the major record labels to get them to drop their more "contraversial" rap acts.
    I recomend anyone intrested in the Bodycount/Copkiller contreversy reads "Ice Speaks" by Ice T.
    Is it any coincidence that the Gucci Gangsters are still getting airplay whilst acts trying to keep it real are ignored by the majors?
    Respect to Eminem,
    Home Invasion 2 has commenced


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,601 ✭✭✭Kali


    respect to Eminem?
    whatchyoutalkinboot Clintons Cat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 63 ✭✭Vega


    Limp Bizkits rap is the best!!!!!


    Peace outty!

    Vega

    SSSLLLAAASSSHHHH!!!!!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,333 ✭✭✭Celt


    I hate rap so bad it isnt funny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Sliotar


    fred durst rapping is genuinely entertaining, always brings a smile to my face smile.gif.... gimme back ma munneh punk, i pack a chainsaw i'll skin your ass raw.....genius biggrin.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Clintons Cat


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kali:
    respect to Eminem?
    whatchyoutalkinboot Clintons Cat.
    </font>
    Well I am glad you asked me that Kali... wink.gif
    its kind of complicated,
    Time to drop some Science. wink.gif
    Eminem is introducing a new generation of kids to hip hop,He is my entry level drug to the whole dangerous sub culture of hip hop and look how dangerous that can be.
    Any co-incidence that the media consider puff daddy,and not Dr Dre to be the most important current hip hop producer?Puff Daddy whose biggest hit "missing you" is a glorified rap about a victim of Black on black gang violence,"with no condemnation of the situation that caused it."i cant wait to see,if you open up the gates of heaven for me" makes me fu<king sick every time i hear it.

    Lyric Break
    So Whatcha Gone Do Now?>Public Enemy
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">The only good niga iz a dead niga
    Dats what they used to say
    Cant understand why a man
    Gotta use a trigga
    On his own, suppose to act grown
    <remix>
    Talkin dat drive by sh it
    Everybody talkin dat gangsta sh it
    Talkin dat drive by thang
    Everybody talking dat gangsta swang
    Slaves to the rhythm of the master
    Buck boom buck another
    Neighborhood disaster
    <crossfade>
    Nigga kills a white man thats murder one
    white man kills a niggathats self defence
    but a nigga kills a niggaTHATS JUST ANOTHER DEAD NIGGA
    </font>


    Go check the lyrics
    Message to the Soldiers>Ice T
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Word! I know a lot of brothas out there want to get in this war...
    You know what I'm sayin'? a lot of sistas got a lot of knowledge
    to drop on our people but right now they're movin' to shut down
    all hip-hop! The first amendment had absolutely nothin' to do
    with black people at the time constitution was written, we were
    considered nothin' but property...The expectation of havin' black
    people speak on records never came to mind, so we gotta move!
    But belive me all the black leaders have been silenced and most
    of the time it's been violent so if you choose to get in this war,
    realize what you're in for but we gotta move on...
    And we gotta stay strong...
    </font>
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">posted on http://wallofsound.go.com/artists/icet/home.html , Ice-T teamed with high-school friend Ernie-C to record a full-length Body Count CD. One song on the album, titled "Cop Killer," generated a firestorm of controversy that included recriminations from police-activist groups, politicians, and the NRA. Released in the aftermath of the Rodney King beating, the song also ignited heated debates regarding the limits of free speech. In the end, the controversy proved too volatile for Warner Bros., and the label dropped Ice-T from its roster. </font>
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">FREEDOM OF SPEACHjust watch what you say</font>
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">posted on http://www.daveyd.com/iceprops.htmlPROPS: How is your outlook on music different since the "Cop Killer" controversy?

    ICE T: I learned that the **** is more powerful than you can possibly believe. You can't come out on a record dissing the system and be on a label that's connected to the system. They can't allow that. I also learned that you don't have that many friends in life when **** hits. Hip hop as a whole will stand behind you, but to the masses, Hip Hop is considered one big nigga. If a hundred rappers stood behind me, it wouldn't matter. I needed guys like Quincy Jones and Michael Jackson to step up to support me. But to them, whether it's Ice-T or Ice Cube, we're all the same, their attitude is '**** all of them'.

    </font>

    Dre and Snoop know the deal,to get airplay you got to play the Stoned Gheto Pimp Characature,an act they have perfected to the point of almost self parody,

    lyrical break
    Burn Hollywood Burn>Public Enemy
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">As I walk the streets of Hollywood Boulevard
    Thinkin' how hard it was to those that starred
    In the movies portrayin' the roles
    Of butlers and maids slaves and hoes
    Many intelligent Black men seemed to look uncivilized
    When on the screen
    Like a guess I figure you to play some jigaboo
    On the plantation,
    what else can a niga do?
    </font>

    eminem has the potential to kick the door open for street Hip Hop again.
    Part of his appeal is that you can emulate his look,his dress,his attitude,you know where he is coming from something that the Guucci Suited Gangsters with all their corporate publicity hype and flashy MTV videos will never achieve.

    Hope that answers your question Kali...i'm off to dig out my VW badges and dye my hair blonde.
    We outta here
    Peace



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,601 ✭✭✭Kali


    well i read the last paragraph, as that was the only relevant one.
    no need to go preaching about ice cube.

    "He has the potential to open up the door for street hip-hop again."

    You honestly think that Dre/Snoop and Eminem are street hip-hop and thus deserve respect?

    Who do you think are responsible for the abominations that are xbizit and that little bow-wow kid or whatever?

    The more kids that see Eminem for who he is, some loser white kid putting on an extremely fake hard rap image, the better.
    You don't think Dre/DeathRow etc. etc. use MTV and publicity either? Seriously wrong. Obviously not to the extent of Puff Daddy and co. though, don't get me wrong Dre has several excellent albums, but gangster rap (in the form of Ice Cube, Public Enemy) is dead as far as im concerned and they should leave it in peace not **** around with it as they're doing at present trying to act tough for the cameras.

    I think the only hip-hop act in the limelight at the moment that I have any sort of respect for are Outkast (Blackalicious not being in the media much), they've released countless stunning albums in America and are now moving into Europe on the back of one or two hit singles. If these singles introduce people to their old stuff it'll be worth it.

    I've rambled on enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Clintons Cat


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">You honestly think that Dre/Snoop and Eminem are street hip-hop and thus deserve respect?</font>

    maybe my style was to oblique but no,i said dre and snoop were playing the field nigga stereotype,the way black entertainers have always done in order to get by.
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Dre and Snoop know the deal,to get airplay you got to play the Stoned Gheto Pimp Characature,an act they have perfected to the point of almost self parody</font>
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">no need to go preaching about ice cube</font>
    I think you mean ice t,and since most of the people here will not be aware of the Cop killa contreversy,a thread about hip hop seems a perfectly resonable place to raise the issue of censorship and freedom of speech,Why can songs about blacks killing blacks,drive by shootings and selling crack be considered to be acceptable for airplay but songs about blacks killing cops,or police harassment be considered taboo?
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">The more kids that see Eminem for who he is, some loser white kid putting on an extremely fake hard rap image, </font>
    sorry that you see him that way,i see him as a talented performer,who has the ability to entertain,fascinate,horify and amuse with equal measure.He is a lot more real than the last white act to break for the street.<beastie boys>fight for your right,not vanilla ice>ice ice baby.
    Maybe he wont turn out to be the streets second coming and usher in a new dawn for contreversial rap acts to get airplay,Maybe all we will get is more graphic versions of gangster rap,but hell you cant blame him for that.
    How much airplay did outcast get before eminem made rap fashionable to thye mainstream again? None,now they got the foot in the door,
    Street hip hop can be a potent force.
    I point to the Stop the violence movement, and the 94 LA gang truce as 2 much maligned but reletively sucessful examples.
    The fact you consider public enemy and ice T dead even though they are still both releasing records means you have bought the corporate line.

    You played yourself.
    Respect.




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Sliotar


    outkast are supposed to be good?! i thought that ms. jackson yoke was novel at 1st but it got dammed annoying, and that new 1, so fresh and so clean, eek, i truly really hate it, really really h8 it. ???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Clintons Cat


    Cause i cant pass a rehtorical question without trying to answer it...
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Who do you think are responsible for the abominations that are xbizit and that little bow-wow kid or whatever?</font>
    dont know xbizit,
    but lil bow wow is produced by the guy behind Kriss Kross,dont know his name offhand.The Bow wow wow,yippee yo yippie yay is off snoops first albumn though,and snoop makes a cameo apperance in the video too.

    Lil bow wow is a passable crossover act lets see what he is doing in five years time.
    New Edition spawned Bobby Brown,Bel Biv Devoe and Blackstreet.
    Kriss Kross are probally serving fries in south central.
    Which way will lil bow wow go? The jury is still out on that one.


    [This message has been edited by Clintons Cat (edited 18-04-2001).]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,601 ✭✭✭Kali


    Sliotar - read my point. Go get/download a few tracks from Aquemini (1998)... they're a tad bit more intelligent than the current singles.

    Clinton - lil bow wow was on the Chronic tour as well. xzibit is some Mase-alike dick whos current singles were produced by Dre. Hence I have no respect for any of the **** Dre/Snoop et al. come out with... including Eminem.

    I still don't understand why you seem to have brought up some cop killing debate which I'm not going to enter into.

    Imo if dicks go out, listen to Eminem and then go buy some decent hip-hop (be it from mine or your definition of "decent" smile.gif ) good for them. That fact in no way makes Eminem talented except for an ability to sell records within a specific genre.


    anyway back to Outkast yet again (whom I only mentioned in passing as the only current hiphop group in the charts that I have any bit of respect for, be there recent singles ****e or not) ....

    "How much airplay did outcast get before eminem made rap fashionable to thye mainstream again? None,now they got the foot in the door" ..
    err they've been around for quite a while like, and have since 95 built up quite a lot of album sales and hit singles in the US where they're not short of a fanbase. (I personally don't give two ****s about the mass buying or listening habits of Europe, as it is for the most part absolute ****e wink.gif )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Clintons Cat


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Sliotar:
    outkast are supposed to be good?! i thought that ms. jackson yoke was novel at 1st but it got dammed annoying, and that new 1, so fresh and so clean, eek, i truly really hate it, really really h8 it. ???</font>
    hey dont blame outcast cause the djs have overexposed miss jackson.
    as for the follow up i hate it too,but then i didnt think much of Miss Jackson when i heard it first,maybe it will grow on me.Maybe not.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Clintons Cat


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Imo if dicks go out, listen to Eminem and then go buy some decent hip-hop (be it from mine or your definition of "decent" ) good for them. That fact in no way makes Eminem talented except for an ability to sell records within a specific genre.</font>

    for which he gets my respect.
    which was kind of my point.
    i wouldnt buy eminems albulm either,but his raps on stan and voices are well constructed and thought provoking,and much more challenging than the usual,"Slap my bit<h to the curb,find me a hoe,and if a nigga looks at me sideways i'll put him in a bodybag" gangsta lite which gets the play.
    As for how much airplay outcast get in America outside the Rap specific stations and on MTV America,i havent a clue.
    Hip Hop has always been about mixing genres,ideas and concepts,you take out of it what appeals to you.
    Peace





  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Clintons Cat


    BTW which of the below statements is correct?

    A)Hence I have no respect for any of the **** Dre/Snoop et al. come out with... including Eminem.

    B)don't get me wrong Dre has several excellent albums

    Not important really,just curious.
    Personally i think Snoop has slipped to far into self parody,if it wasnt for some class rapping on Dre's 2001 albumn i would of consigned him to the lame gangster rap catagory,i certainly wouldnt recomend The Last Meal to anyone.
    Dre along with Ice T were instrumental in establishing the 94 LA Gang Truce.
    The Copkiller Contraversy is just an illustration of how far American Society and the music industry will tollerate black gang violence when it is turned inward on itself,I do not in any way Endorse Shooting Cops.Hope that clears up any confusion caused.



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,601 ✭✭✭Kali


    They're both right of course smile.gif

    Currently what he as a producer/manager/publicist/stylist is coming out with is complete and utter crap.

    (Note i didn't mention lyricist).

    Does that in any way effect my views of his previous albums? no, and why should it?

    right think thats everything wrapped up now hopefully smile.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Sliotar


    hey im not sayin outkast are bad, im just really surprised that they're SUPPOSED to be good. a lot of ppl will never of heard of them before now, and will probably think that they're some kind of 1 hit wonders, which is the impression i got. neways, tis trivial.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Clintons Cat


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">right think thats everything wrapped up now hopefully </font>

    Hehe
    Peace.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    Jurassic 5 are cool (lets take it back to the concrete streets...)

    And the beastie boys rule!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 670 ✭✭✭Sliotar


    beastie boys?? yes you do need to say more..... wink.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭harVee


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Warren G - Regulate (the first real rap song... hmmmmm)</font>
    did you mean to say that it's the first rap song YOU heard. cos it is not the first real rap song. up there with the wort though, imo.




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Well, I can admire rap as a form of singing and all, but the way most people do it these days, it is JUST that. Just the singing.

    As for good rap, can't beat old Cypress Hill.
    And One Minute Silence are pretty cool, saw them in concert, man, that kicked ass...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 54 ✭✭Brummers


    If you don't like rap music, try listening to some of the following:

    Rage against the machine (mentle guitars, heavy beats juxtaposed with hip-hip vocals)

    Jurassic 5 (Smooth beats, gospel vocals and nice to smoke to smile.gif )

    Beastie boys (need i say more?)

    Warren G - Regulate (the first real rap song... hmmmmm)

    Which ******* made my bed so comfortable?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Brummers:

    Rage against the machine (mentle guitars, heavy beats juxtaposed with hip-hip vocals)

    </font>

    hip-hip vocals ?I dont think so !!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭Excelsior


    Boring tedious politically propogandistic vocals. wink.gif


    (Kevin stirs that sh.it)

    My Adolescent website:
    http://www.iol.net/~mullent


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