Can you U-turn at this crossing(picture attached)

jayyyyy

https://www.google.com/maps/@53 .3436458,-6.4668264,3a,75y,201.94h,70.77t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s9fKddOSGJtbXWLd2JLxdJQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D19.225459996623798%26panoid%3D9fKddOSGJtbXWLd2JLxdJQ%26yaw%3D201.93722169013404!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MTAxNC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Saw a car did this yesterday.

On the one hand, there is nocontinuing white line.

On the other hand, on the ground it's saying "go straight".

Deagol

Nothing to say you can't do a U-turn there. The arrow is irrelevant to the point. There is no sign and no solid white lines etc. And why would you care enough to create an account here just to ask that?

jayyyyy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123930541#Comment_123930541

Thanks for your opinion!

And why would you care enough to create an account here just to ask that?T

That's a big assumption.

The account was created months ago. This is my very first post.

jayyyyy

And why would you care enough to create an account here just to ask that?T

I’m genuinely curious what others think about it.

con747

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123930558#Comment_123930558

Actually your account is over a year old (April 11th 2024) Personally I wouldn't do a U-Turn there but that doesn't mean it's illegal.

Buffman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123930563#Comment_123930563

'No U turn' signs exist for a specific reason, the lack of one at this junction should answer your question.

Looking at that particular junction, your arrow drawn on the photo is entering the bus lane on the opposite side, so you should go far enough into the junction to allow you to complete the turn without entering the bus lane.

con747

I think the fact the green traffic light has no arrow pointing ahead means you can legally do a U-Turn if it's safe to do so but can't be 100% on that. If the green light had an arrow pointing straight ahead I don't think you could do a U-Turn but again stand ready to be corrected!

Cerco

The arrows on the road show "Left Turn" or "Straight Ahead". I would say no Uturn.. Traffic behind might confirm this 😀

Orban6

Fairly certain that it is legal.

Rules of the road (which we have all read 😉) only mentions you can't if there is a sign or road making prohibiting it, e.g. continuous centre white line.

Quantum Erasure

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123930698#Comment_123930698

he also mounted the footpath and ploughed through one set of traffic lights

JVince

You may make a u-turn only if it is completely safe to do so (unless there's a no u-turn sign)

So if there were vehicles behind you or if vehicle had to abruptly slow or make other unwarranted maneuver due to your actions, then you could be charged with driving without due care and attention.

EG - If you use common sense and don't impede any other motorist, then that's fine. But if you think its your right to do so and to hell with causing other motorists to stop or make sudden changes - then its a valid stop

markpb

How would a vehicle behind you be dangerously impeded by performing a U turn? If a turn is legal, surely it’s up to other drivers to anticipate that and drive accordingly? I’d agree if you were concerned about performing a U turn into oncoming traffic.

fritzelly

According to here - you go straight

S.I. No. 294/1964 - Road Traffic General Bye-Laws, 1964.

Like the left lane you must turn left, why would the right lane mean you can do a u-turn?

MojoMaker

Did you get a ticket for the u-turn OP?

markpb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123932295#Comment_123932295

The existence of a No U-turn sign would seem to suggest that U turns are generally legal unless the sign says otherwise.

jacool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123932908#Comment_123932908

It would be interesting to know if the traffic coming in the other direction get a green light at the same time.

If they do, and you are sitting at the top of a line of cars that want to go straight ahead, and therefore, have to remain in this lane, and you are making them wait, until perhaps the lights have gone red, to turn, and none of them can get through, I'd be re-thinking my options.

dulpit

It is quite a sharp looking u-turn spot though (based on photo alone I mean) - is it legal to do a u-turn if you need to also 3-point turn to make it?

markpb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123932937#Comment_123932937

Out of courtesy, yes! It doesn’t make the manoeuvre illegal though.

EchoIndia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123932295#Comment_123932295

And the relevant text is:

"(2) White arrows placed in traffic lanes at an approach to a road junction shall indicate to drivers the direction to be taken by traffic using those lanes, as follows :—

(a) in the case of arrows pointing straight ahead, a driver using the traffic lane in which those arrows are placed shall proceed straight through the junction ;"

extra-ordinary_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123936731#Comment_123936731

Yeh, would think if there was a right turn at the junction then a u-turn might also be permissable, but a u-turn in moving traffic going in a straight direction (whether there was traffic on the other side or not) would be a bit of a crazy manoeuvre imo. OP, just ask yourself if you'd do it with a Garda car behind you…😎

Orban6

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123937487#Comment_123937487

From my experience of cops, they are as useless at traffic rules as the rest of us!

Buddy Bubs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058427179/can-you-u-turn-at-this-crossing-picture-attached

I know that spot, its in Adamstown, Lucan and see the U turns happening a lot because houses on one side of the road only have access to 1 direction coming out of their roads isn't that correct?

Don't think its illegal but I wouldn't be surprised to see it being made so in the future as its not really suitable and its very frequent.

masterboy123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058427179/can-you-u-turn-at-this-crossing-picture-attached

No, making a U-turn at that location (as shown by the red line) would not be legal or safe.

Here’s why:

1. Lane markings:

The lane you’re in has a straight-ahead arrow painted on the road. That means traffic in that lane is only permitted to go straight, not to turn or U-turn.

2. Traffic light & junction design:

The junction and signal setup are intended for forward or left-turn traffic only. A U-turn there would cut across multiple lanes, creating a high risk of collision with oncoming vehicles or traffic from the opposite side.

3. No designated U-turn bay:

There’s no sign or lane indicating that a U-turn is allowed. In Ireland, U-turns are only permitted where it’s clearly safe and not prohibited by signage, road markings, or traffic conditions.

4. Legal aspect (Road Traffic (Traffic and Parking) Regulations):

It’s an offence to perform a U-turn that interferes with other traffic or contradicts traffic signs/markings.

Conclusion:

You cannot legally make a U-turn there. You’d need to continue straight and use a roundabout or another safe, designated location to turn back.

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123940951#Comment_123940951

Sounds like an AI answer

masterboy123

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123941326#Comment_123941326

Yes, it is and I agree with the answer.

MojoMaker

That's a waste of oxygen.

GPoint

There must be a small slip for u turns on the junctions where this is allowed. But sure that is extra width and tarmac etc. Doing a u turn from the right lane where there is no right turn is going to annoy everyone behind. I can count the number of times I had to U-turn on the junctions in this country. Different story is driving in the US it’s so much easier there.

Esel

A u-turn is, by its nature, a potentially dangerous manoeuvre for other road users.

I would not even consider performing a u-turn at the junction above.

swoofer

this is the rule

"

Explantion:

 If you want to do a U-turn you must first choose a place where it is safe and legal to do it. Check all around for other road users and do not impede their right of way. Complete the manoeuvre efficiently and safely."

If there is no sign saying NO U TURN then ….

User1998

If there were no oncoming cars and no cars right behind me I would do a u turn