Planning obtained through improper means

tsullivan13

Hello, I found out recently while I was away on holiday - and unexpectedly dealing with a death in the family - a neighbour of mine got planning permission very close to our house. We hadn't a clue about it. To make matters worse, after a few drinks they admitted to me that the planning was granted through means that could land the person who approved it in serious situation.

I am really upset over this, as we were out of the country and had no chance to object. It feels completely unfair, especially when so many others have to fight to go through the proper channels. I know I can't object to the planning at this stage, but what can be done when permission seems to have been given in such a questionable - if not illegal - way?

HeidiHeidi

Do you not have to display a planning application for a certain period (1 month?) that is clearly visible to the public?

I'm no expert, but if that was not done, then surely you have a legitimate cause to ask the local authority how come planning has been granted when you had no opportunity to respond to the application.

sydthebeat

they admitted to me that the planning was granted through means that could land the person who approved it in serious situation.

why havent you said what these "improper means" are?

no one here has any idea who you are, where you are, or who the planner is.

being "out of the country" is not a valid excuse for feeling hard done by a planning decision.

Pat734

I'm sure that if the planning was obtained illegally, or with money changing hands, etc, an investigation will almost certainly happen. Resulting from that a lot might well happen. A letter on what you know to the council, or through a solicitor is what you should be thinking of it's hugely important to you. Otherwise, have a chat with your neighbour and see where that gets you.

Was the planning for a house, an extension or? and was it successful in the sense that the neighbour carried out what was granted by planners?

Orban6

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058425844/planning-obtained-through-improper-means

Why can't you object to the planning?

HeidiHeidi

Also, there is an appeals process which you might be able to avail of (not sure if you need to have made a submission during the initial application though).

How is the planning supposed to have been granted? Brown envelope sort of stuff?

sydthebeat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123867823#Comment_123867823

you need to have made a submission in order to appeal

Penn

A newspaper notice would have been required to be published in a local or national newspaper, as well as erection of a site notice at the property which is subject to inspection at any time during the 5 weeks of the planning application. Both of the above, as well as a planner's report on the application which forms the basis of the justification for their decision in granting the application, will be online as part of the planning file.

Without any details on how this seemingly was done through "questionable" means, it's impossible for anyone to accurately comment on it.

sydthebeat

the council check to see if the site notice is erected for the valid 5 week time period.

a notice is also published in a local or national newspaper a max of 2 weeks prior to

these are the statutory notifications required to be given to the public.

being "out of the country" for this period is not a valid excuse not to have known about the application and thus being put out by its grant

Orban6

The planning process in this country is a joke. A neighbour of mine applied, and was granted permission for, a shed beside his house. Big enough to house a truck and milk tanker.

He didn't build the shed within the time frame required. At least 15 years had expired when he built the shed and the shed was about 3 times the size of the shed in the original application.

I put in a complaint. The CoCo simply modified his original application and no action was taken.

There was no site notice erected for the new shed.

bigroad

It is a Jokea site not too far from me was put for sale with no planning on it.So only local needs apply if lucky enough in a locals application.

That was no problem so the site sold and was back up for sale with planning at twice the original price within two months.

My understanding of getting planning under local needs is you can not sell it on .

muffler

Plenty of windup merchants re-regging on the site for some time now.