Why is the attitude towards underage GAA coaches so negative?

Necro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123806162#Comment_123806162

There is, and nothing was communicated there at all!

Former Former Former

I’ve been coaching my daughters for five years and have no idea what the OP is talking about.

Maybe it’s different with boys’ GAA but I have never experienced anything other than gratitude from parents and appreciation of what a sacrifice it is.

Tombo2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123806167#Comment_123806167

well that was not good.

however - I would go back to the 'ask' of coaches that are, like yourself, parents - but they are volunteering their time. That in addition to doing the coaching, running the games, contacting the oppposition, contacting the refs and loads of other things - they are also expected to go chasing parents up to make sure players (i) have fees paid and (ii) have registration paid.

yes, you can say - well they should have told us, they shouyldnt have told the kid…. and that makes sense. But it is also saying, all this work that you do for free that I benefit from hugely, i'm not happy with you & you need to do more.

Tombo2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123806203#Comment_123806203

I was referring more to the media view of underage coaching. But also to some, not many parents, who'll be constantly giving out that its not done properly.

Necro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123806207#Comment_123806207

It wasn't the coach though. He was quite happy to play him, as he was registered and fees had been paid long ago. It was a club admin who randomly decided to cause the issue. Young fella is all sorted now this week but it didn't need to happen, it was because someone stuck their nose in where it wasn't even required.

Also it's literally child protection and safeguarding 101 that you don't approach children with this sort of stuff. So I don't accept that nonsense that they're too busy, because if they're suitably qualified to coach kids then they know how these situations should be handled.

Ash.J.Williams

The people whom shout and abuse the loudest weren't thr greatest players if they played at all. I find generally

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123806093#Comment_123806093

Experiment.

Also some games you might up against bigger or faster forwards or backs. Which means you need to move players to best counter the other teams.

Having static positions makes no sense. Unless you have someone who is fantastic in a certain position.

One of mine is always played full back for one coach. But never on every other team, even when played up on teams that don't know them.

You are not going to retain players or broaden their skillset and knowledge of the game leaving then in the same position for a decade.

If it's a critical match and players who bring some thing extra to a position that's different.

Necro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123806278#Comment_123806278

I find moving them around gives them a great education on how to defend/attack in different positions too as they take their own experience into the matches.

crusd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123806203#Comment_123806203

What I would say is that there is a lot of variation club to club. But the pressure to win is definitely higher with the boys teams. I would regard our own club is quite progressive but have heard grumblings about "what are they at with the U13s" and the like. And I certainly know with other clubs it can get quite toxic.

It is different with boys and girls as well. With larger clubs especially, they know they will always have enough players so can prioritise success over retention. However with girls the fall off in playing numbers is much more significant, so they need to prioritise retention. Drop from 3 sides at U14 to 1 at U16

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123806290#Comment_123806290

Exactly.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123806250#Comment_123806250

Maybe.

I didn't think a mentor or coach needs to have been a player. Sometimes it's helpful some times people just are natural at mentoring.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123806404#Comment_123806404

I think it's different with different groups be it girls or boys. Some will be ultra competitive some less so, some very talented some less so and every combination. Different personality types some teams very close group and supportive others not so much.

So coaching will be different with each groups.

Enjoy it while it lasts. I felt it changed a lot at minor. It wasn't as close a group at minor.

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123806437#Comment_123806437

Im specifically talking about sideline supporters shouting abuse at coaches and players

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123806541#Comment_123806541

Really at Underage? Rarely have I seen that.

Tombo2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123806714#Comment_123806714

havent seen it in gaa, have seen it a few times in soccer. and quite literally, the difference there might be the GAA pitch is so much bigger, what would be the point in roaring at a coach the far side of it.

HurlingBoy

There are alot of qualities needed to be a good coach. It helps to have played the game but I have seen coaches who have played at county level quite poor at coaching. Coaching is like teaching where you need a level of authority and gain respect of the players

Tombo2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123809682#Comment_123809682

The right coach for one team might be the wrong coach for another - a big thing for me though is excessive talking. In particular - halftime is over, the ref is standing in the middle, one of the teams is on the pitch and ready to go. The other team still in a huddle….. the team talk is still going on….. and on and on….

Flinty997

I think it depends on what's being said. Might be just meaningless babble. Might be tactics and verbal kick in the behind. Lift heads. Could be either.