Kicked out of SCEP

patsy_mccabe

Well they kicked me out of SCEP. Got a letter yesterday to say I have been 'removed from the Programme' and the department will be in touch with me to recoup any monies paid.

They say that I did not calf down 50% of the reference number.

Can anyone advise on this?

No number to call, just some woman I have to send a 'Review Request' letter to.

Fooking fuming I am. I did everything right to date.

I was even in the initial Genotyping Pilot programme and the BDGP way back in 2015 etc. Never had a problem till now.

893bet

Have you massively cut numbers?

Did you only miss one of the years? Wonder if there is an option to appeal, get Vet support for “fertility issue” or similar.

V6400

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058421441/kicked-out-of-scep

I assume you did calve the 50%? SCEP scheme phone number is 057 8674422

patsy_mccabe

What I think happened was I started doing my own AI last year. I had a lot of repeats initially and some of the cows slipped back maybe a month or 6 weeks. So cows that calved in June last year, calved in July this year. The reference year ends in 30 June 2025, so these cows slipped into the next reference year.

Crazy thing is, if I had known this was coming, I had could have back dated the birth date on a couple of calves. Still would have been short though.

TinyMuffin

I had to give them back money for tags when I changed my mind and didn’t go ahead with it.

ABitofsense

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123703621#Comment_123703621

Jaysus that's a sickener, I had a cow 1st calve in July then back to May following year. Got paid twice for her in that year but not included in the 1st year numbers at all.

Amateur Farmer

This type of action from the Dept. really annoys me…. Would it not be logical for whomever has responsibility for sending out these letters to look at your herd profile prior to sending the letter and they would have seen that some of your calving went into the next period.

They could have contacted you to verify that everything was legitimate and they could avoid all the hassle involved in throwing you out and then you appealing it and hopefully (from a financial aspect) getting back in. Common sense and logic here would have saved every one time and who knows may even have created some good will for them.

limo_100

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123703621#Comment_123703621

You should have back dated I back dated a calf born on jul 27 as I am low this year to make my reference numbers. What you can do is get a doctors note to say you where unable to farm to the full ability in 2024/5 and some things slipped I know someone that had to do this and it worked.

bogman_bass

appeal and fight your case?

Limestone Cowboy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123705419#Comment_123705419

Definitely this, get on to your advisor and get them to write up an appeal letter. More than likely they have had to deal with somebody else in this situation aswell at some stage.

Limestone Cowboy

A letter from your vet explaining a cause for the cows falling outside of the yearly cycle might be difficult for them to argue with too.