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HHC banned with Immediate effect

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Torcaill


    Why?

    Since it was first detected in Ireland in 2022, it has been linked with episodes of psychosis and hospitalisation. A recent study by researchers in University Hospital Galway found that HHC was the second most common drug used by patients presenting with psychosis over a 21-month period.

    Seems a logical step.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,932 ✭✭✭adaminho




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭Soc_Alt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Rancid stuff, anyway. And I'll try pretty much anything. Or would have, in the past.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Regulate.

    Ban disposables

    Ban this HHC

    Ban the flavours aimed at children.

    Ban all flavours

    Ban the popup shops

    No issue with any of that and no sympathy for the peddlers. Yes, there are shops out there that are responsible vendors that have been selling for years and I do feel for them but this Wild West attitude needs to stop. Immediately.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,138 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “Pretty bad of the government not to give shops time to sell off existing stock.”

    Just bring any existing stock you have to your local Garda station - I’m sure they’ll refund you from their petty cash



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,266 ✭✭✭JVince


    Considering the harm it does has been well known for a while, I'd say its pretty bad that some shops continued to peddle this drug to its customers for so long and regulation had to be brought in to prevent harm to people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    How was it legal in the first place? Would it not have been covered under whatever legislation was brought in to ban all the 'head shop' gear



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭scrabtom


    Agree with all except banning all flavours. Leave us something for goodness sake



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,034 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    With regards to the vape flavours they should be moved to in line with tobacco products where all the packaging is the same and nothing to pop out at especially the younger generation. And stricter sanctions placed on stores that sells to underage patrons. Adults though should be allowed to choose for themselves. I would agree with banning disposables, ( typing as I have one sitting beside me)

    HHC on the other hand should have been banned as soon as it hit the "market", very poor response from the govt to it imo



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭thomas anderson.


    Its amazing how they can implement a new law with the stroke of a pen



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    The issue with the flavours is that they are targeted to make them enticing for children.

    How many adults are going in asking for candy floss or pink lemonade? They're designed to be overly 'sugary' in their taste to make them enjoyable for children/teenagers.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,747 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭scrabtom


    Yeh get rid of them fair enough but it would desperate if the only vape you could get was a non-flavoured one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,566 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    this ban isn't going to make any real difference in reality.
    granted from what i hear this stuff is the absolute pits but unfortunately anyone who wants it will get it and it's another drug off to the black market to be pumped full of god knows what that will make it even worse.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭lucalux


    Judging by how long the meow/mcat and spice/legal 'x' was floating around after the head shop ban, no one will panic. Neither the users or the vendors

    Went into a shop to get a phone case or screen protector and got a really hard sell on the HHC vapes from the guy ... gave me the ick in many ways

    Legalise and regulate cannabis. It would make my life more manageable if I were to have legal access to something with which I can supplement my pain management

    Plus I'm ok at gardening so would be a nice hobby



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭lucalux


    Most adults who use vapes that I've seen use very sweet flavours, bubblegum and candyfloss included, it's definitely not just for kids

    Though I do agree with you in that i know they are targeting the up and coming market, for sure



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,747 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Fluck this.

    I need something to relax; cannabis is prohibited, alcohol will **** you up, and now this.

    Not everyone can deal with a sober life, I like the relaxation and creativity that cannabis, and to a lesser extent, HHC can provide.

    Psychosis my F. Kids getting too stoned, and the moral panic ensues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    I don't know how to feel about this because I've never nor will I ever go near hhc , I smoke js so next the government need to legalise weed , we need to copy Canada where you can buy up to an Oz and grow up to 4 plants at any 1 time



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,138 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    We could write whole pages about the pros/cons of legalisation but I think at some stage we need to sh1t and get off the fence on this topic- banning it doesn’t work so maybe we just have to try that and see - I’d like to see the revenue generated pumped into our hospitals and medical care centres though - in addition to what the government currently fund, not instead of - legalisation will create more drug dependent people and more psychological illness - there’s no getting away from that - but the reality is, we’re using up valuable resources tackling the smuggling of this drug - these could certainly be diverted elsewhere.

    I don’t take the drug either -and nor would I if legalised - what’s more worrying though are the new wave of drugs that have emerged in recent years coupled with the intense strength of modern hash - none of these appear to be going away and with cocaine apparently very popular and easier and cheaper to buy than a few pints , I really don’t know where all this is going to end- at some stage personal responsibility needs to come into play - clogging up our courts with small possession charges doesn’t work but maybe decriminalising and large fines to fund our public services might work - who knows, but we need to start being more creative because current approach is a disaster



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Can we just shut down those horrid neon vape shops? I say legalise the growing for personal use of cannabis, might get the fuckheads off the streets and into gardening.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,098 ✭✭✭plodder


    Probably ministerial regulations which in this case are pretty much literally the stroke of a pen by the Minister for Health.

    WHy it wasn't banned before, is probably because each chemical compound has to be named individually. So, it's a constant game of catchup, when a new compound is created or starts being "used" widely.

    “Fanaticism is always a sign of repressed doubt” - Carl Jung



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭scottser


    If they just legalised growing your own weed there would be no need for these products.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭scottser


    Also, Ireland has no place that recycles batteries. The lithium batteries in vapes end up in landfill or are exported, even though they are rechargeable and could be repurposed.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,034 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Most of the battery recycling banks in stores like Lidl and Aldi are taking disposable vapes in there now. The bags that you can get, state disposables are allowed in them. There is 2 big problems though, one, that it is not widely known, I only found this out a number of weeks ago myself, and two, the majority of the "kids" using these don't give a shite about recycling



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,696 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Aye, I agree. The streets are for the functioning alcoholics, I'd prefer not to have to navigate them either. So growing at home would rock.

    Tried HHC a few times, its not the same, feels and tastes like man made chemicals which is just a no, especially when the natural plant does it far better and safer. At this stage though, I'm beginning to doubt it'll be legalised in my life, such is my luck. Cost of living is gone mental so growing at home may be my only choice soon enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    Hhc is probably to consintrated and making people go off the walls but I think just legalised weed would make things a whole lot easier, I know hhc was a grey area for a while here in Ireland. I smoke weed I prefer than alcohol etc that's just me though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,158 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭TokTik




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