Will my employer know if I have a 2nd job

Ash40

Hi all,

I am currently working full time but with the cost of everything and the added bill of needed the car fixed I'm thinking of looking for a second job. Something part time which won't affect my full time job. Does anyone know if my current employer will know if I start a second job?

Cape Clear

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058419184/will-my-employer-know-if-i-have-a-2nd-job

If they are keeping a close eye on your PAYE record yes. What does your current contract say with regards to secondary employment? Also with regard to working time and ensuring you get the correct time off between shifts you are "expected" to inform them if you have a second job. I'm not sure if this is a legal requirement or courtesy tbh.0

Ash40

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123632051#Comment_123632051

All very good points! Had a look at the contract and it does say that I have to ask for permission to have a second job. They can approve or deny depending on, as you say, working hours and whether or not it will affect my current job or my health and wellbeing. Thanks for the reply!

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123638778#Comment_123638778

That is a very common clause and particularly so if you are doing any kind of job that could cause serious damange such as operating heavy machinery etc…

And the other reality is that most people are not remotely good enough at covering their tacks not to be caught out. I spent about 8 years doing fraud and insolvency investigations in a past life. And I can't remember a single case we prosecuted where the target had not let slip what they were up to!

artanevilla

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123640136#Comment_123640136

You never caught the guys who didn't slip up….

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123640163#Comment_123640163

That does not help the guy that get's caught…

And yes there were some that got away, but not because their employer was unaware of what was going on, it's just that there was not sufficient evidence to prosecute them or they employer gave them a break and kicked them out at an opportune moment. In most cases these days accounting systems are capable of putting up a red flag, but it can still be difficult to nail it down to an individual.

El Tarangu

Some lad got away with moonlighting as a barman in one of the most well-known pubs in Dublin for 30 years before he got rumbled; I'd say you'll be grand, OP

Gettin Auld

Most places have you fill out a form for dual-employment. I believe one of the main reasons is so that one or both companies can simply with working time regulations, things like ensuring that you can not work for 11 hours after one shift has ended for example.

Ash40

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123640136#Comment_123640136

Yes I know what you mean. In my current position I get people that start a conversation saying one thing then let something slip at the end. Plus it doesn't sit well with me to not be upfront about a second job. Thanks for the advice!

New Scottman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123640627#Comment_123640627

Lost his claim in February

https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2025/0218/1497482-aib-official-who-was-moonlighting-as-a-barman-loses-claim/

Died in March

https://rip.ie/death-notice/alan-ecock-dublin-dublin-7-588801

Not grand

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123671937#Comment_123671937

Ah fck off, no.That’s so sad.

I remember reading about his “sacking” from the pub job and then I think he got into hot water with his employer- over a stupid bar man job -and he did so much for his community and charity as you can see from the condolences left.
May he rest in peace.

New Scottman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123671964#Comment_123671964

My brother lived in an apartment near that pub so we both knew Alan from drinking there. He did a lot of good work for his community and knew everyone, was very good with elderly people. Very sad outcome - things did not have to end up that way.

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123671972#Comment_123671972

My condolences to you- hopefully some lessons can be learned but jayzuz, what the hell bloody threat was he to AIB? Companies don’t own our fcking lives- they can go fck right off.

Del2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123672354#Comment_123672354

He was someone who lied to them, would you keep employing someone that you cannot trust. He was the one who did wrong not the bank.

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123672411#Comment_123672411

In this case- yes. It was fcking obvious he wasn’t a threat - he was doing the bar work for well over 20 years

daheff

if companies pay a decent, livable wage, then yes they should have some kind of say over you not working a second job.

but these days people struggle to get by, not even get ahead. So if that's your problem OP I'd say rock on and get a second job for a while to pay the bills.

HBC08

I set up my own limited company whilst continuing to work for my current PAYE employer.

Im not ure if thats the same thing or not.

I never told them officially but they were aware as managers/colleagues often asked about it and I'd happily chat away about it.

I'd often end up doing 100 hour weeks and sometimes there was crossover ie I was at my business premises on the companies time.

Did it for 10 years and nobody had any problems with it. Unfortunately my business had to close last year so now just have the one job!