Am I entitled to any sort of free housing or HAP? I'm on 70k a year and have two dependants.

scrotist

Pre COVID, 70k a year would sound like a lot. Now it's peanuts.

I have two dependants - a child and her mother.

Every paycheck more than half of it disappears instantly on rent and bills. Then I need to use the remainder to keep the three of us alive and pay for any random stuff that happens. Medical bills, car is fucked, baby things. Pocket money for the mother so she doesn't feel useless. I also save 750 a month for a deposit.

This might be a ridiculous question but I might as well ask. Immigrants seem to have it all figured out. They know exactly where to go and all the free stuff they can get. They have free lawyers to help them get as much free stuff as possible. But regular Irish folks like me have no idea what we're entitled to.

So.. can I get free housing or HAP or be put on the housing list or anything like that? What about free food or anything like that? Coal allowance? Is that a thing?

What if I break up with my partner? Will she and my baby get a free house? I've no problem sleeping under a bridge if they get a house. We're not married.

Rocket_GD

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058418070/am-i-entitled-to-any-sort-of-free-housing-or-hap-im-on-70k-a-year-and-have-two-dependants

Pocket money for the mother so she doesn't feel useless.

You sound like a lovely partner.

Well topped up with the added nonsense trope "Immigrants seem to have it all figured out. They know exactly where to go and all the free stuff they can get."

scrotist

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583116#Comment_123583116

She asked for the money. Should I stop giving her money? Would that make me a better partner?

Rocket_GD

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583188#Comment_123583188

No, but changing the way you speak about her would.

Nigzcurran

70k is peanuts? Get a bleeding grip on life

scrotist

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583217#Comment_123583217

I pay almost 2k a month for rent. I get my paycheck and it's obliterated instantly. I'm guessing you own your own house? Nice.

scrotist

Look, I pay an eye watering amount of taxes. I must be entitled to something.

Geuze

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583217#Comment_123583217

100k gross wage in a 1 earner family, with 2A+2C, is below the average for that family type.

Hard to believe, so I double checked it. It's true.

SuperBowserWorld

Yes - education, roads, emergency health care (private does not provide this), health care, paramedics, fire services, police, public transport, clean water, air, food, law and order, radio, tv (you can get it free on the player of you don't pay a license), vaccines, libraries, defence, ...

I think the real problem is that housing/rent sucks up a huge amount of income. That's because Irish people and the state can't or won't scale communities, infrastructure and housing sustainably.

Rocket_GD

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583242#Comment_123583242

You pay at the very most €19k a year in taxes, this is not exactly "eye watering" and as mentioned above you get a lot for that.

Rocket_GD

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583305#Comment_123583305

This isn't 2A+2C, there's only one child.

Dempo1

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Dempo1

Don't engage with this utter Nonsense.

Ivor_Guddon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583116#Comment_123583116

you sound like one of these very hap recipients who does not contribute to society at all

OP has very valid points , i'm a single parent to 2 kids ( 12 & 14 ) and i've never received any help regarding costs for them as i'm deemed over the threshold , i've also a mortgage i get no help with

so why should Jacinta down the road get €1600 towards her €2000 rent ??? why should she get the social welfare ? also child benefit etc when she has never worked a day in her life , except have 4 kids with 3 diff dads , why is this rewarded ?

This system is completely fooked , no incentive to work

if they stopped this housing bullshit and said we'll give you €200 towards the rent i 100 % believe you'd see peoples attitudes to having kids stopping

it seems they want to tax the higher earners more and give them less help despite them making an effort to build a life than expect others to pay for it

Ivor_Guddon

so €365 a week tax or €1583 isn't eye watering ?

i'm on over 100k and trust me seeing that money go out to pay for little slags kids is disgusting , degenerates who will never be anything but a burden on society

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Rocket_GD

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583366#Comment_123583366

Never claimed a cent of dole or ever been on HAP, you know what they say about assumptions?

I've a mortgage too that I don't get any help with and yes we have all heard of these "stories" of someone down the road on the dole with kids off to Spain twice a year etc.

It's not the people on the dole causing your issues, it's the top 1%.

Ivor_Guddon

dude you won't win here with these muppets

i genuinely feel your pain , similar situation but a mortgage and extra kid and slightly higher wage so all pro-rata

i can't even get medical card because over threshold etc , but ukranian and russians never paying a cent in tax get it all etc

Ivor_Guddon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583383#Comment_123583383

how do you make that out ?

who is the top 1% enlighten me

Rocket_GD

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583388#Comment_123583388

Calling people "muppets" isn't a great way of staying on this site, just an fyi.

If you can't understand the very simple point I made there, have a video explainer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNbaM3XwByU

Ivor_Guddon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583394#Comment_123583394

yeah cause i worry about a website kicking me ohhhh im scared

kabakuyu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058418070/am-i-entitled-to-any-sort-of-free-housing-or-hap-im-on-70k-a-year-and-have-two-dependants

Try citizens advice,but I think hou are above the threshold for any welfare payments.

Rocket_GD

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583413#Comment_123583413

So you're not on here to actually engage in a decent manner, no worries.

I've made my point, you're feigning ignorance and throwing out the usual dole and immigrant tropes.

I bid you farewell.

easygoing39

That late late show muppet is another one of these public commentator's who thinks we should get everything for free and that money grows on tree's.

o1s1n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583377#Comment_123583377

Your taxes, as noted above, go to pay for health care, paramedics, fire services, police, public transport, clean water, air, food, law and order, radio, tv (you can get it free on the player of you don't pay a license), vaccines, libraries, defence, roads ...

It's not all just for 'little slag's kids' as you so eloquently put it.

What is your alternative? Don't house anyone who (for whatever reason) can't/won't work? Where do they go? The streets? The gas chambers? Genuinely interested in your ideas, they must be good.

Ivor_Guddon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583457#Comment_123583457

Health care for who ? because it's not for me as i'm over the threshold

all public services ie police / fire services etc no problem with that

my gripe is giving parasites who have never worked a day in their life , it's giving them €1600 towards €2000 rent , why ???? tell me that ?

why can't i ( who pays highest rate of tax ) get any help whatsoever ? why are we being punished for making a go of our lives and not expect others to pay for it

RurtBeynolds

Op you're able to pay rent, provide for your partner and child and still manage to put away 750 per month for a house. Sounds like you're doing alright tbh. Maybe you need to adjust the attitude? Or maybe you just want to moan about dem immigrants.

Ivor_Guddon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583457#Comment_123583457

What is your alternative? Don't house anyone who (for whatever reason) can't/won't work? Where do they go? The streets? The gas chambers? Genuinely interested in your ideas, they must be good.

Don't house people who have shown all through their life that they never work and show no interest in work , or don't give €1600 towards €2000 rent and then give social welfare and kids benefit , where is the incentive to work ? just a vicious cycle on repeat , social welfare state

if they were given a little then they might and just might want to work to have a better life

con___manx1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583116#Comment_123583116

How is it trope. It's true. Wake up. you and the 8 people that liked your comment must live a sheltered life. Do you not know any foreign people or what ?

The amount I know **** the system is unreal.

Ivor_Guddon

i'm being crucified by the revenue at the minute for a level 1 compliance , apparently it's standard and they randomly do spot checks to make sure peoples taxes in order and thankfully i work in Accountancy so im well versed on my taxes , but why do they make hard working people feel like criminals with all their requests ( bank statements for 4 years , utilitie bills for 4 years ) etc

bet they never did this to the waste of €325k to send 35 migrants back to Nigeria ( bet they never questioned or verified how it cost's almost €10k per person to send back )

or how about the infamous bike shed that cost the earth etc

but the middle person who pays for all of this get's treated like a criminal

parasites the lot of them

Ivor_Guddon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583505#Comment_123583505

shush you can't say that , you might upset the princess

o1s1n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123583476#Comment_123583476

If you need to go to A&E you'll pay 100 euro for admittance and everything else will be free, you'll also then pay a tiny amount per day you're in hospital if you need to stay on - that's your taxes covering your health care and is an incredible part of our setup in this country that nobody seems to give much notice too. Try doing this in the US without health insurance and see how you get on.

Have you signed up to the drug payment scheme? That's another great one, a family doesn't have to pay more than 80 euro a month on all of their combined prescriptions (doesn't matter what your income is). I'd say combined, my household's meds should be costing us about €300 a month but we only pay €80.

I live in a really nice part of dublin and have a junkie living across the road from me in the biggest house on the street with a massive garden that none of us have.

Does it annoy me? of course it does. But you know what? I really can't think of any other solution. I also really enjoy living in the knowledge that if something catatstrophic happened and we both lost our jobs, there are supports there so we don't end up homeless. Again, somewhere like the US where they don't have our social supports you can have a particularly bad run of luck and go from doing well to living on the street.