Drone delivery base for Dundrum

Viscount Aggro

Manna dropped a planning application for this… back of the church. Local residents will love it.

Vestiapx

Are tge drones auto pilot of flown by operators

Viscount Aggro

Can you speaky the English?

Drones are operated by humans.

Larbre34

Hasn't a hope of being granted planning.

Not a snowballs chance in hell.

magicbastarder

Interesting, I thought manna's attitude was no planning was required. Unless the building itself is not already listed as a commercial development?

JVince

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123558113#Comment_123558113

They are actually autopilot. They need minimal human connection with average 20 drones "monitored" by one person. They say this could be as high as 50, but stick to about 20 in populated areas.

Viscount Aggro

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123558157#Comment_123558157

Why do you say this?

County councils are all about taking cars off the road. This fits in with their green credentials.

Charles Babbage

This doesn't make sense to me, somewhere in the Sandyford industrsil area should be the base for this part of Dublin.

Vestiapx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123558188#Comment_123558188

Cool Thanks

Vestiapx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123558183#Comment_123558183

It's a green area beside the river i used to drink cider there in the 80s

Vestiapx

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123558113#Comment_123558113

I'm dyslexic you wierdo I had turned off auto correct to enter a password

magicbastarder

Plenty of drone talk on this thread:

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058398887/planned-drone-deliveries-from-dublin-industrial-estate#latest

Larbre34

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123558204#Comment_123558204

In principle, yes.

But not that location. Not a prayer.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123558204#Comment_123558204

This isn't taking cars off the road though. No one is getting coffee delivered by cars, and most food deliveries are by eBike or moped.

It seems like the wrong service in the wrong location.

Here's the planning application details;

https://planning.agileapplications.ie/dunlaoghaire/application-details/102655

with a bunch of objections in already;

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123558335#Comment_123558335

Get Bitwarden 😉

I was sitting near the McDonald's in blanch recently and hearing the drone buzzing overhead. It's like having a strimmer going in the background constantly

They can't be running those through the night surely? The residents would have burnt down the drone station by now

Just so someone can have their nuggets and fries 3 minutes quicker than Deliveroo

CPTM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123558594#Comment_123558594

Yeah and I guess the bigger ones that deliver things are way louder. I hope it's not going to be a new sound that's normalised like passing mopeds or motorbikes or souped-up cars.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123558594#Comment_123558594

The drones have limited hours. But that McD has a 24 drive in, almost permanent queue of cars and deliveries with engines running.

I don't think McD use the drones. Not listed on the manna site anyway.

Bit weird they wouldn't set up in the industrial estate. I guess they're trying to be closer to the shops that will use it.

miamee

The cut off is 10pm as far as I know, they don't fly after that time because yes they are a bit noisy. My parents live in an area where these fly overhead multiple times a day, you don't notice it if you are indoors but if you are out in the garden or heading to the car or whatever you'll hear them. It still boggles my mind to see them whizzing about overhead when I visit to be honest.

AhhHere

Do they follow specific routes or just go straight as the crow flys?

jlang

For longer deliveries from the D15 base they seem to follow roads/parks where possible and then go "as the crow flies" for the last bit. e.g. drones to Castleknock (inside the M50) tend to travel along the N3 rather than over Blanchardstown village. The "where possible" still leads to some roads/estates getting more overflights than if a direct line was used for everywhere.

They must have internal charts with way points and exclusion areas that constrain the drones routing. A heat map of paths taken over time would be very interesting but I'm sure any info like that would be company confidential.

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123575336#Comment_123575336

Interesting, I assume they're trying to avoid overflying houses as much as possible, probably for noise and safety reasons (less chance of a drone crashing on someone)

I believe the drone operators need to clear their airspace with the IAA so there's probably some map of allowed routes somewhere on public record

Viscount Aggro

What if I am flying my drone in the same area as the drone delivery base?

the_amazing_raisin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123579051#Comment_123579051

No idea tbh but there could be an exclusion zone same as airports

Orban6

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123579051#Comment_123579051

Aerial warfare?

machiavellianme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123558474#Comment_123558474

It's the same service as Deliveroo or Just eat, except it's aerial. What other location are they supposed to consider? The mountains - where there are neither restaurants nor customers?

I for one wish them well. Its a more creative solution to traffic problems than just putting speedbumps, kerbs and cycle lanes everywhere.

Larbre34

Drone deliveries will go the way of the 24 hour Krispy Kreme.

A nice novelty for a while, but ultimately they will annoy too many people and get injuncted, or taken down by people's own hand.

Flinty997

A lot of complaining is from People nowhere near the drones.

Larbre34

There are very legitimate complaints about privacy and nighttime disturbance and overhead hazard and what not, but in time everyone could be "near the drones", which is the whole point of the conversation around proliferation.

But what I can see happening, is that somewhere around the World, somebody will be badly injured or killed by a commercial drone that has failed and come down, or cargo has become detached and fallen. And that will be the end of that for the foreseeable.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123650075#Comment_123650075

It's not the same though. You can't really get two cups of coffee by Deliveroo today, because the costs and timing doesn't work. So this is effectively a new service, that's not going be taking drivers off the road, but instead is going to be delivering more and more crap quality fast food to more and more people, and we're going to throwing our hands up in ten years time wondering why our hospitals are even more flooded than today with obesity, diabetes and more.

And then there's the noise.

AhhHere

I read the churches objections and think they are very reasonable. They also make the point that so many details about this are so vague it's hard to get behind it without confirmation of them. Like frequency, routes, operating times, privacy etc

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123651016#Comment_123651016

Vague? A lot of this is available online. Operating times, privacy etc. Some of it it will depends on the orders, frequency, routes, and you can ask not to be overflown.