Issue with neighbouring landlord

curlycarly

I've been renting an apartment for 5 years. As soon as I moved in, the noise at night from the apartment next to mine in the neighbouring building was unbearable - by which I mean parties and loud noise until the early hours of the morning, or sometimes the entire night (finally stopping at 6am, then again at 8am). I have reported this to the Gardai on numerous occasions so there is proof, I have recordings of the noise, I have friends and an ex partner who have witnessed it and would happily stand up in a court to verify my account. My landlord has been notified and has spoken to the neighbouring landlord but absolutely nothing has been done.

I discovered that only one of the ten apartments in the neighbouring building has been registered with the RTB despite all the apartments being occupied, according to one of the residents who the Gardai spoke to. RTB confirmed this when I contacted them. They provided me with the landlord's details. He is a barrister (yet I'm pretty sure it's against the law to rent out apartments without being registered with the RTB?).

Can anyone advise what I should do? If I send a letter to this man asking him to take action against the tenants will he use his legal position to take action against me even though I am legally in the right and the lack of sleep for 5 years is actually making me sick? Is it worth me sending a registered letter to his address, or do I go ahead and take private action in the District Court? I can't go on like this much longer.

BrokenArrows

There is no legal action he could take against you.

Just move if it's affecting your health. It's not worth it.

Why would you be living with it for 5 years if you are renting. Just move.

curlycarly

I don't understand why I should have to move if I'm not actually doing anything wrong? Also there is nowhere available thst is affordable to me.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123530510#Comment_123530510

You don't have to move, but its common sense because you can't fix the problem.

Mrs OBumble

Is this noise seven days a week, or occasionally?

How do other tenants in the same building feel about it?

How did the RTB give you the landlords name, if there's no registered tenancy?

Zennor

As a neighbour you can raise a third party request for mediation with the RTB. The fact that the ‘offending’ tenancy is not registered does not matter.

No matter what the landlord does for a living he has an obligation to ensure his tenants do not act in an anti social manner. If he does nothing to prevent the anti social behaviour he can be held equally liable.

If his tenancies are not registered the RTB can fine him but this is a side issue for you.

Bottom line; you have a right to a peaceful life, landlords have an obligation to ensure this happens.

Claw Hammer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058415677/issue-with-neighbouring-landlord

Only certain tenancies have to be registered with the RTB. Many do not. In any event, how do you know they are not licencees?

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058415677/issue-with-neighbouring-landlord

My landlord has been notified and has spoken to the neighbouring landlord but absolutely nothing has been done.

How do you know nothing has been done?

They provided me with the landlord's details. He is a barrister (yet I'm pretty sure it's against the law to rent out apartments without being registered with the RTB?).

I'm not sure how if his profession is relevant. Not every rental has to be registered.

If I send a letter to this man asking him to take action against the tenants will he use his legal position to take action against me even though I am legally in the right and the lack of sleep for 5 years is actually making me sick? Is it worth me sending a registered letter to his address, or do I go ahead and take private action in the District Court? I can't go on like this much longer.

If it is this bad you probably should have moved 5 years ago. It's not worth it.

Caranica

If you're in an apartment there are probably development rules and a management company. They should be taking action against the landlord. I know we had a clause in our deeds that committed us to ensuring that any tenants we might have would comply with development rules

Del2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123531114#Comment_123531114

There's feck all a MUD can do about anti social behaviour. MUDs can't even force members to pay their management fees, they can only get a lien on the property, how are supposed to enforce quite time?

OP you shouldn't have to move but we live in a culture where there is no consequences for bad behaviour. So you can follow the process to complain about the anti social behaviour, it will be a long slow process if it gets any action, or you can look after yourself and find somewhere else. You will not get any satisfaction following the process because you will have to constantly drive people to do what can't be done, evicting tenants legally in this country is very difficult.

curlycarly

One of the apartments in the building is registered to him. It's definitely the same man, as I've seen him about numerous times in past few years and the name matches the photo on a law website

curlycarly

I moved in just before Covid. But good to know that people genuinely think it's that easy in the current climate - plus what happened over Covid - to just up and move.

curlycarly

Thanks - unfortunately these are private buildings.

curlycarly

I know because I have spoken to a number of residents in the past 5 years. None of whom wanted me to contact the RTB because apparently some apartments are in disrepair (including a leaking roof) and he refused to do anything to fix it...

Yeah Right

The only way to get this sorted is via your own landlord. You need to keep pestering them to the point they will do something.

Ring them every time you have an issue. Every single time. It's the only way. Become a PITA for them or they won't bother their ar$es doing anything for you.

It also doubles as a log of the number and frequency of the complaints.

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123530104#Comment_123530104

Move? This isn't 2010

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123531929#Comment_123531929

You've had 5 years to move. You've made zero progress with the issues in 5 years. That's half a decade.

"...Doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results...”

Why do think anything will change.

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123532040#Comment_123532040

This will still be an issue in 2035 and you'll be saying it's not 2025.

csirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123531926#Comment_123531926

Is this the apartment making the noise?

If its not, how do you know he owns the others? He could be the compliant law abiding landlord in the building with the owners of the others being the non compliant ones.

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123532110#Comment_123532110

It will still be a problem but I'd still say 2010

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123532569#Comment_123532569

Look at old news reports every generation says this about housing and renting.