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Does this race equivalency calculator look right?

  • 31-03-2025 04:19PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,641 ✭✭✭✭


    I was looking at https://sporttracks.mobi/labs/race-finish-time-predictor today and was interested to see how the Dublin Half times might predict a full marathon.

    So for example the winner in the M55-59 category had a chip time of 1:22:42 which translates to a full of 3:01. I'd of thought it would be lower than that but what do I know, are these realistic? Just curious what super humans can do in my, soon to be, age group mainly!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,210 ✭✭✭Trampas


    1:22 half id expect mid 2:50’s depending on the course but easily under 3 hours on a normal marathon course



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,338 ✭✭✭crisco10


    My PBs are all from last 6 months and in that range:

    5k: 17:51 (at Jingle Bells, not sure that counts!)

    10k: 36:51

    10M: 1:01

    Half: 1:21

    Full: 2:56

    so table generally looks similar, bar the 5k times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,052 ✭✭✭Itziger


    Agree, that the Half to Full is off. Nobody who runs a 1.22.** would be happy with anything other than a sub 3. The old H*2+10=Full doesn't work for everyone but I prefer it to the one above. My pbs are incredibly similar to Crisco's and my Full I would consider my weak point at 2.57.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,763 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Well it does say there’s an assumption of slower longer distances - so it’s allowing a ‘fade’ like some calculators do. In that sense it’s probably pretty accurate for many runners, but maybe less so at the sub-3 level. Twice HM plus 14 mins is my own mid pack standard (1:33 HM, 3:20 M).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭brick tamland


    Just noticed that Strava have added a projected race times based on your training/milage. Not sure how long it's been there



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    One thing I find about race calculators is that they rarely qualify/contextualize what type of race they're considering. There's a huge difference between someone specifically targetting a half-marathon and dedicating a training block to it and only it versus someone running a half-marathon 10/12 weeks into an 18 week marathon training block. The latter is what a large proportion of amateur runners do, but most race calculators appear to assume the former.

    If you dedicated an entire training block to a half marathon and ran 1:22, I think 3:01 is a realistic (maybe slightly conservative) marathon equivalent. If you ran 1:22 mid-training block 6 or 8 weeks out from a marathon, I'd expect you to easily go sub-3, and possibly targetting sub-2:50.

    The last time I set a marathon PB, it was only 60 seconds slower than my HM time doubled, which I had run 5 weeks previously.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,210 ✭✭✭Trampas


    I just checked mine and it be close enough. 7 seconds faster than 5k last week in Kilkenny and I’d be hoping for a few seconds faster in Johnstown bridge. 10k around what I’d expect along with half. Full no idea as none done a run over low 20k since finishing marathon in Valencia. It’s close enough to what Garmin has predicted also. I always wear a chest strap for every run



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