Camogie Club Change U12

75Gill

Hello

We live in a parish, with a local camogie club. But my daughter doesn't attend the local school. She goes to school in school in the city , as we moved to the parish after she has started school, and as I work in the city it suited to leave her in that school, plus she has made her friends etc.

She did play Camogie in the local parish club 2 years ago at U10s, but didn't go back, as she has very little friends She plays soccer with club in a nearby parish, and she has lots of friends in this soccer club ( there is no soccer club in our parish!). She would love to try the Camogie again, but as she does not know anyone in the local club, as she is not in the local school, she is not keen. She will be 12 in a few months.

I am wondering as she has lots of friends in the other parish, could she possibly play Camogie with this parish? Is this a no no under GAA rules?!

I know she would thrive at Camogie once she has her friends and possibly stick with it. Surely this is more important?!!

Thank you

celt262

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058399442/camogie-club-change-u12

Just bring her and register say nothing about playing with the other club before.

Uncle Pierre

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058399442/camogie-club-change-u12

Firstly, just to point out that even though you're asking about camogie club registrations/transfers, you refer to GAA rules. Your situation would obviously be governed by the rules of the Camogie Association instead. You'll find them here, and Part 1 is the most relevant - https://camogie.ie/administration/official-rules/

Anyway, to try answer your question - this section of Rule 4.1 of Part 1 is what would apply:

As your daughter only previously played at U10 level, I'm assuming she hasn't yet participated in official league or championship, since in camogie, anything up to and including U12 is Go Games. So unless she was absolutely exceptional and playing with an U13 or U14 team when just nine or ten years old, that's not an issue.

So, your question really becomes "is my daughter entitled to join this club in the other parish as her home club?". Bear in mind that the key word in the bit I've quoted above is "legally". And the answer to whether or not she can legally do that will be found in your Camogie County Board's bye-laws, and whatever they say about club catchment areas. Nobody here will be able to tell you, at least without knowing what county you're in.

But FWIW, I can tell you that generally speaking, Camogie Association bye-laws on this tend to be more lax than GAA bye-laws. Even here in Wexford, where camogie is widely played, it's easier for a girl to join a club in another parish than it is for a boy to do so.

poitinstill

In cork camogie unless you play feile (u14/u15 mix) you aren't really tied u13 is a league based competition not knock out till the semi's. The transfer "window" is January. Anything not in by then will have to wait till next January.

Uncle Pierre

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123260497#Comment_123260497

My reading of the rule above is that even playing the league stage of that U13 competition would tie a player to a club, since it would be participating in club competition, either league or championship.

However, on the continued assumption that the child in question here hasn't yet played at a level above Go Games, the question of transfers doesn't arise here, as she therefore doesn't have a designated home club.

It remains a question of club catchment areas, and whether or not she's entitled to join a club in an area where she doesn't live and where she doesn't go to school. As stated, the answer will be found in that county's Camogie Association bye-laws.

keeponhurling

Isn't the point of sports clubs that you can make friends ?

If you join your local camogie club, then you make more local friends. It's how "blow-ins" integrate into the local community!

munchkin_utd

leaving aside whether go games counts (which I would think it doesnt), one key difference between the GAA and Camogie is that no transfer is needed ….

Where a player has not played competitive Camogie at club or county level for a period of twenty-four months or more.

Ladies football has a similar rule.

Uncle Pierre

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123316700#Comment_123316700

That's true, but surely it's still a case of whatever club catchment area rule applies in the particular county?

i.e. if you live in Place A and play for several years with Club A, but then stop playing for two or more years, you don't suddenly have an unfettered choice of every other club. You can't suddenly go off and play for Club B just because you want to.

What it means really is that if you end up living in the catchment area of Club B, more than two years after you've played for Club A, you can begin to play for Club B without the first club having to formally release you under the transfer process.

lawrencesummers

Those rules on registration don’t matter at that age, you can go to any club.

My advice would be to get her to go to the local club, she would make more friends, and friends that are from the local area, and also a different set of friends as the soccer and Camogie in the other parish is probably the same girls on both teams

It might be harder in the short term but it’s better in the long term, it means she will know more people locally, it avoids a situation where two local clubs are rivals and your playing with the one that’s not where you live.