Another car driven into another crowd in Germany

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2025/0303/1499925-mannheim-car-crowd/

Coming to a town near you soon folks. What's the answer to this? How have we allowed this to happen in Europe with such frequency. The NGOs will of course blame us and society and all of the soft excuses when it does happen and if you comment on the elephant in the room around migration policies you will be branded a racist and locked out of any debate.

SpoonyMcSpoon

Not all muslims but as we know almost always muslims when it comes to these random, mass murder events in Europe. I'm liberal socially, centrist economically, but happy to turf them all out of Europe.

Mod edit: poster warned

It's so difficult and even on this site to have any sort of rational discussion without it being shutdown. Frustrating to say the least. Germany has a massive problem at the moment and if this had of happened a month ago you would think the election result may well have been different.

In Ireland we have the best defence available. A sea between us and mainland Europe.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058398995/another-car-driven-into-another-crowd-in-germany

highly unlikely this will occur here in any great numbers, no need to catastrophes!

yes, many immigrants come with significant levels of trauma, but if we provide them with their most critical of needs, including housing, health care, employment etc, such incidents would be very unlikely to occur, but if we dont……

…again, since most advanced nations are starting to experience aging demographics, immigration is really the only game in town, hence why we actually need immigrants, but since anti-immigration sentiments are now growing, we need to prepare for the issues of this demo graphic shift, i.e. economic stagnation etc……

Grayson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123227563#Comment_123227563

liberal socially but willing to turf millions of muslims out of europe?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123227615#Comment_123227615

I wouldn't agree with any part of your assessment there. I think we should have a model whereby we accept skilled immigrants into the country who can eventually pay their own way and contribute to society. Anyone else should be told no at this stage.

So if this happens once, or we have another mass stabbing we should just be prepared to accept it.

The government and the European polices are to blame for people anti-immigration attitudes. People will only take so much.

quantum_technician

About 48% of the population in Mannheim are immigrants or offspring of immigrants. The chances are very high that 1 in every 2 of the victims are immigrants.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123227639#Comment_123227639

naturally enough!

so please explain to us how you would approach our aging demographic problem?

most immigrants actually do already pay their way, many employed in critical parts of our economy such as health care!

yes, such events will occur again and again and again, largely due to unmet needs such as appropriate housing, health care, employment, etc etc etc!

and again, yes, policy is at the heart of the issues outlined, and/or the lack of!

quantum_technician

Plenty of accommodation, health care, educational opportunities and Jobs in Mannheim. You are waffling.

Montage of Feck

Most rational people are not anti migration, that is if it is legal and necessarily for the economy and provision of services. Open borders migration is just not compatible with a centre left welfare state.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123227695#Comment_123227695

really! the german economy is in fact beginning to falter, just like many other european countries, many european countries are now also starting to experience the same issues in housing, health care, long term infrastructure problems, all requiring significant amounts of investment, including a substantial expansion in employment in order to resolve, but again, since many parts of europe are now starting to experience aging population, i.e. none of us actually have the young workforce to resolve these issues, this is where immigration comes in!

o1s1n

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058398995/another-car-driven-into-another-crowd-in-germany

You do know when you say 'NGOs' you're actually talking about a massive umbrella of organisations?

Christian Aid are an NGO, do you mean them?

The National Youth Council of Ireland are an NGO, do you mean them?

Disability Federation of Ireland are an NGO, do you mean them?

Threshold are an NGO, do you mean them?

Referring to 'NGOs' as one homogenous group who are pro immigration and 'anti talking about immigration' absolutely wreaks of 'I read too much Gript and other Right Wing media outlets' where they seem to think 'NGO' is the new 'bogeyman'

quantum_technician

You haven't a clue. The Rhine Neckar metropolitan area is very affluent due to the large number of multinationals operating there. Mannheim may be a visually unappealing city but there are loads of jobs and extensive social services there.

Grayson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123227705#Comment_123227705

We don't have open borders. Neither does Germany. Unless you're against immigration from the EU?

StormForce13

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123227725#Comment_123227725

I would confidently suggest that there aren't very many readers of "Gript and other right wing media outlets" across the entire NGO section.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123227682#Comment_123227682

Tackle other government policies which make it difficult for people to have children or to have them at a younger age. Housing being a key issue for most people in their 20's and 30's. The price of childcare being another massive barrier. By tackling the childcare cartel you also empower people to perhaps stay in the work force thus paying more in PRSI also which will contribute to pension payments.

Mass immigration from vastly different cultures is not really the answer. It's like something an NGO would advocate for. But they aren't pulling the whool over many peoples eyes anymore.

HeidiHeidi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123227780#Comment_123227780

And where do you think all the builders and childcare workers will come from?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123227785#Comment_123227785

Read some of my posts further up. I am all for immigration which is beneficial to the country. Are any of the IPAS individuals living in tents or on the streets or in hostels working in creches or building sites? Are any of them qualified to do so?

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123227881#Comment_123227881

Why don't you tell us? Do you know whether they are? Are you aware of the rate or percentage of asylum seekers working in this country?

Are asylum seekers good for the economy? Yes, if they are allowed to work

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2024/01/20/are-asylum-seekers-good-for-the-economy-yes-if-they-are-allowed-to-work/

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41095219.html

Backstreet Moyes

It is a sad state of affairs looking at the below from the article.

High security precautions required for Germans in Germany for carnival celebrations.

Germany seems to be a scary place to live at the moment.

Authorities have been on high alert is the high point of traditional German carnival celebrations before the beginning of Lent.

Interior Minister Nancy Faeser said before the incident in Mannheim that festivities were taking place "with high security precautions.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123227943#Comment_123227943

Maybe the immigrants aren't getting enough free houses. Or maybe we are just misunderstand them. After all they are all doctors, surgeons and highly qualified tradesmen coming in from muslim countries lol.

Mod Edit: Warned for trolling

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058398995/another-car-driven-into-another-crowd-in-germany

So someone has been killed and your initial response is to post a thread here making out like you're the victim and posting snarky comments.

Absolutely vile.

Necro

Mod: Gusser09 can't come to the forum right now, no need to quote them for oh say, about a week. Thanks

Boggles

According to local reporting a second person has died, 2 adults and a child are receiving "acute" medical attention.

I imagine the equivalent of critical.

Bogey Lowenstein

There is one thing to be said for self-drive vehicles, they would not let these kind of attacks take place.

prunudo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123227725#Comment_123227725

Referring to 'NGOs' as one homogenous group who are pro immigration and 'anti talking about immigration' absolutely wreaks of 'I read too much Gript and other Right Wing media outlets' where they seem to think 'NGO' is the new 'bogeyman'

I see this mentioned around here alot. Why exactly is reading gript or right wing media seen as a bad thing. In this country we have a media that is predominantly left leaning. Surely reading too much left wing media is equally bad. Why do people in Ireland fear right leaning views so much?

Surely balance is needed to form opinions?

slay55

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123228126#Comment_123228126

exactly , RTE is hardly a credible source for information

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123228126#Comment_123228126

They didn't say it was a bad thing. They said that reading too much of it is. No need to twist words.

The claim about Irish media being left wing just isn't true. Who fears right leaning views exactly? Anyone? Or is it just more Gript talking points?

Opinions can be based on anything. Ideally facts and sound reasoning, neither of which one is likely to see too often in gript.

con___manx1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123227563#Comment_123227563

Not all are bad. It's kind of like the small minority of ira bombers in the UK in the 80ths.

I do agree tho there has to be a limit on how msny europe takes in. Germany has way to msny. We can't house them.

My own town had a 24 hour lock down on a proposed site for months before the government gave up. Only a small amount of them here.

Another town close by let them in and I seen a video of a big fight outside the centre yestrtday maybe 10 guys in a brawl.

At the end of the day these Muslim people will never accept our culture. Even the not so crazy ones.

Their view on women is not great as they are seen as second class citizens.

They will not mix to much with the likes of us natives. Unless they have to in work or what ever.

The EU is perfectly aware of the above but stilp let them all in. It was mosty the Germans behind it because of their guilt from the holocaust.

francois

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123227725#Comment_123227725

NGO in this context is just another meaningless right-wing talking point cribbed from social media. File along side "woke" and "Soros". Anyone using them is intellectually lazy.

Odhinn

Seems to be a local nut-

"According to Baden-Württemberg’s interior minister Thomas Strobl, of the conservative CDU, the 40-year-old suspect behind the attack was from Rhineland Palatinate and was acting alone.

German media is reporting that the man, who was arrested and is being treated for his injuries in hospital under tight police protection does not have a migration background and is said to have a known history of mental illness."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/mar/03/europe-live-blog-updates-trump-putin-zelenskyy-starmer?filterKeyEvents=false&page=with%3Ablock-67c5cc3e8f086243b8dc07d6#block-67c5cc3e8f086243b8dc07d6

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058398995/another-car-driven-into-another-crowd-in-germany