Hey just wondering does anyone know what grounds a member of the Garda while off duty

nev89

just wondering what grounds a member of the Garda has to charge you or try charge you if driving while disqualified while the member of the Garda is off duty say they seen you driving while they were off duty nd show up at your door the following day accusing you of driving while disqualified

Tia

Jim_Hodge

And if he saw you committing any other crime (assault, robbery, etc) do you not think he could charge you the following day based on an extremely reliable witness report i.e. himself?

Musicrules

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123153159#Comment_123153159

You ever go off duty yourself?

nev89

was only asking was all

nev89

-musicrules

Thank you

baxterooneydoody

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058395357/hey-just-wondering-does-anyone-know-what-grounds-a-member-of-the-garda-while-off-duty

You're fine op, a guard has no power unless they have the hat on , drive it on

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123153160#Comment_123153160

Just putting the situation in context for the OP rather than posting a snide comment that does nothing to answer their question.

Jim_Hodge

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123153164#Comment_123153164

I know you were. And I was just putting the situation in context for you.

Musicrules

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123153180#Comment_123153180

🤣 Snide is all you do. The op was thankful for my comment. OP, the garda would have no evidence so they would be firmly be told to jog on.

talla10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123153195#Comment_123153195

That's completely incorrect which I am sure you know. Gardaí, on or off duty, still retain the same powers so if an off duty Garda observes you committing an offence they can still stop, search , arrest etc

Musicrules

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123153217#Comment_123153217

If they come to your front door randomly, you can just tell them that you have no clue what they're talking about and close the door on them.

talla10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123153221#Comment_123153221

Yes I'm sure that will work fine for you 😂

CrazyEric

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123153225#Comment_123153225

If you say " I am a Freeman of Ireland" it works most of the time, sometimes.

Musicrules

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123153225#Comment_123153225

It will. They can go and try to prove that they're telling the truth if they want but they can't and they won't. Give them a nice wave as they're leaving in the patrol car. 🖕

Deregos.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123153217#Comment_123153217

Are you saying that there's no difference between Gardai when on duty, and off duty, bar maybe that they're not getting paid while being off duty?

Flaneur OBrien

I'm beginning to see why Musicrules wants Ireland to be more like Singapore... They don't have a clue how the police operate 😂

Imagine thinking you could only be arrested for breaking the law if you're caught in the act by a garda on duty. All those detectives will be up in arms that their jobs are pointless!

nev89

well i certainly not be asking a question again between the sarcasm nd rudeness is unbelievable but thanks to the ones who genuinely answered me

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123153320#Comment_123153320

If you think people were rude and sarcastic here, you lead a very sheltered internet life.

elperello

Some really bad advice here.

banie01

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123153232#Comment_123153232

They can counter that by confirming they are on their oath. Then they can enter your house, seize your chattels and claim prima nocte on all your pets and your Mrs.

Lenar3556

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058395357/hey-just-wondering-does-anyone-know-what-grounds-a-member-of-the-garda-while-off-duty

To answer your question, it makes little difference if a Garda is ‘on duty’ or ‘off duty’. The legislation makes no distinction between the two.

If you are to be prosecuted, the Garda will tell the judge that he observed you driving the car on the day in question. It will be of little significance whether he was working at the time. Indeed if it were a member of the general public who witnessed you driving, that may be quite sufficient for a conviction.

Orban6

Guards are never off duty.

mikethecop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123154642#Comment_123154642

just like internet trolls , never off duty :-)

ya on or off duty , if your caught your caught and if the Garda bothered his or her hole to pursue it you really are busted

Markus Antonius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123153217#Comment_123153217

Not true. Can't stop or arrest you if they don't have identification, can't search your car unless they have a warrant or reasonable grounds (i.e. suspect you of carrying drugs/weapons or have committed a crime)

Markus Antonius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123155645#Comment_123155645

Bothering the hole is ten-a-penny these days

Lenar3556

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123158212#Comment_123158212

The powers that Gardai have to stop vehicles, or arrest an individual are not dependent on them having identification.

At a practical level, you may have a defence to a charge of failing to stop, or resisting arrest if the individual was not identifiable as a member of the Garda, but that is a secondary issue.

Claw Hammer

A garda not in uniform must show identification if they wish to exercise powers of inspection, or search.

csirl

Q. What do you call an off duty member of AGS?

A. A member of the public.

Gardai only have their powers when on duty. An ordinary Garda cannot unilaterally put themselves on duty - they have to be rostered or called and placed on duty by a superior officer. There is a clear distinction between them acting in an official and private capacity - same as other public servants.

The exception to the above is Gardai at Superintendent rank or higher. Like other senior public servants/office holders, they are paid a salary on a 24/7 basis (but obviously dont work 24/7) and can put themselves on duty.

opti76

https://paycommission.gov.ie/wp-content/uploads/GRA.pdf

from the GRA which is the Garda Union essentially ..

A Garda's powers, responsibilities and duties are with them whether in or out of uniform and 

whether on or off duty.

A Garda is responsible for any error in judgement while exercising these powers and answerable for any such powers.

Hobby farmer

Your confidence in spouting rubbish is impressive.

Lenar3556

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123341842#Comment_123341842

I am not sure where you gleaned this detailed information from, but it is not the case.

Powers inferred on members of An Garda Siochana by Irish statutes are not conditional on the member being ‘on duty’ , ‘off duty’ or wearing a Garda uniform.