The Drones of 2024/25

Hotblack Desiato

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These Are Facts

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123053795#Comment_123053795

i) We could be a 'local' star to some advanced life form, else they detected our unique RF emissions and signs of life from distance.
ii) You're still assuming our limited knowledge of travel, is matched by any advanced civilisations. We've gone from rowing boats, wooden planes and horses, to ICE, jets, electric/hydrogen travel and all within the blink of an eye, nevermind Musk's plans, to land on Mars shortly.
iii) UAPs remain 'unidentified' until they're proven otherwise, hence the name.
iv) None of the 'unidentified' UAPs and drones have been downed, even if they're just doing surveys, human operated or not. Even if 90% of the slower, blinking light types can be identified, it leaves the other 10% faster ones, without FAA lights, that have freely entered highly controlled spaces (without engagement) as 'unexplained'.

Pres. Trump has left some wiggle room on 21st Jan, as he said 'about' day one.

silliussoddius

All the unidentifieds are still just aliens of the gaps. Trump will deliver nothing on the subject on day one.

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123057100#Comment_123057100

Keep in mind, going from rowing boat to a jet engine doesn't automatically mean there's another exponential leap there. Also we've have had rowing boats for thousands of years and we still have them. Musk will be using a rocket to get to Mars. We could easily be running iterations of rockets for the next few thousand years and still having difficulty getting outside our solar system in any meaningful way

Unidentified footage comprises 100% unclear (e.g. blurry, flir, gimbling, B/W, night vision, etc) footage. Not 99%, not 99.9%. We all have HD cameras everywhere (including in our back pockets). Unless "alien visitors" have manage to remain just out of view every single time whilst still happening to cross the galaxy then crash in a cornfield - then something isn't adding up there.

If Trump releases something it will very likely be similar to whatever has been released recently. Accounts of things with no verifiable evidence, e.g. a Navy person once saw something strange, a group of technicians once got a strange reading on radar, a new video of something blurry and so on. If I had to guess, it will be old-hat stuff from previous decades. Calling it now (called Grusch, Elizondo and others).

Also calling that AI video will play a part in the next chapter of "sightings". There's a significant market for this and someone will always try to meet that demand.

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Germany tells troops to shoot down drones on sight after wave of suspicious UAVs was seen over military sites amid hybrid war with Russia >

The ministry said that security services have noted that reports of sightings of 'uncooperative' drones, over critical infrastructure and military properties in Germany are increasing

You'd think they would do this already (and other countries) and ask questions later, but it still has to be passed through their parliments (buying extra time for the mystery, that has ran since early December).

Considering the Bear is pushing N'Kor lads to their extermination and loosing loads of boats, wouldn't be confident that it is them capable of such acts, across various distant countries.

Trump will indeed likely not deliver much info on day one (too busy), and he used the escape phrase 'about' in regards to day 1.

Giblet

"If you release a high pressure in a vacuum it will simply vent to fill the space. It's not going to propel you anywhere."


"Venting" eh? Newtons first law in action, but you forgot the third law… If you are going to troll, trying being smart first. Who's alt account is this?

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Tucker Carlson has recently made a shocking claim about the mysterious drones that plagued New Jersey over the last month, saying they were controlled by Chinese mothership satellite.

He said 'an intel person' told him that the drones 'were in fact Chinese,' explaining the US government took down a Chinese satellite 'that was a command and control satellite for these drones.'

…hinting at a Beijing-operated satellite known as 'GaoJing 1-02', which was downed (into US territory) on December 21.

He also rumoured that one of the downed/captured Chinese orbs displayed 'anti-gravity' capabilities. >

Giblet

Tucker Carlson is a Liar

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123066790#Comment_123066790

Ah yes, special Tucker. The ultimate DEI hire.

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/tucker-carlson-claims-he-was-attacked-by-a-demon/

Cheerful S

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123066790#Comment_123066790

I think that is quite a big story to go from the Chinese balloons in the news getting shot down to the Chinese using anti gravity drones, which is actually a sci fi propulsion system based on our understanding of science.

These drones/ships are appearing all over the world, not just in the United States, and have been placed over population centers and military sites for around a year now. Anyone paying attention will see that this is a preparation event to get the attention of the masses.

The United States media went into a frenzy for weeks because police officers and civilians were having mass sightings. There was an event scheduled by Trump that was canceled due to the presence of drones.

The television face of the United States government is either confused like others or aware of what is taking place

Speculations that feel true to you. It could be hobbyist drones misidentifying objects or genuine NHI craft. It is undeniable that the end of 2024 and the start of 2025 is a busy period. My prediction last year was that it would take about a year or two for all to be revealed. It is my expectation that 2025 will be a very significant year in this area. There is a new story circulating the headlines today about the broadcast of a crashed ufo recovery video by Newsnation.

However, I suspect the credentials are genuine and they are tier 1 operators. I cannot speculate on the content or its genuineness. There is always the possibility that the controllers with NHi tech are beginning to feel the heat from the other group, and that this is a managed disclosure. There is also the possibility that good people are making the disclosure voluntarily. It might not make a difference to the debunkers.. We wait and see

silliussoddius

I suppose the egg retrieval video is a psyop to discredit believers.

These Are Facts

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123071839#Comment_123071839

True enough, many other countries have been getting their important sites 'droned', and have all failed to take them down. Many report their silos getting pushed offline, as happened decades before.

The downed China GaoJing 1-02 Sat for controlled drones, could be a seperate event, considering they had simplistic ballons floating there for weeks on end not so long ago, maybe they have a shed load of new toys, and their eyes set on taking Taiwan soon.

The case does seem to still be wide open, the egg video from Newsnation is very poor, in quality and substance, not even worth any consideration.

Cheerful S

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123075055#Comment_123075055

It may have been the whole purpose of the newsnation Barber story to enlighten the public. Remember that many of these people who appeared since 2017 have intelligence backgrounds working inside US intelligence services. This raises the question of what kind of disclosure is being sought.

You should always be aware that everything might not be as it seems when it comes to human-based NHi disclosure.

At this point, what amount of information is permitted to be shared between this claim whistleblower and the investigation? Last night, I saw some hints that we might actually be dealing with some real disclosures in the show. There is a core component of this phenomenon that involves telepathic communication and remote viewing. The fact that tier 1 military operators were involved in this for defence department was not a deception.

Another thing that is important to take away from this show is that it claimed that during another operation, a UFO engaged another UFO in the air like a dog fight. It didn't occur to me that they would discuss such a reality. Despite the fact that there's some correct information in here, the grainy nighttime footage is making people less interested and making more people doubt the whole UFO topic. There's no telling if it's just a teaser for something better in the future. This broadcast clearly has some information from people in the know dropping into it so that people are aware of what is going to happen. But like I said openness for last two years has a purpose.. It seems that there are a number of factions in the Pentagon who want to keep different things under wraps about UFOs.

I find it hard to decide whether Luiz Elizondo is a controller agent or someone who truly wants to inform the public of what is going on. Watching a 10 second video at night isn't going to change the attention of the masses. It is going to be a disclosure event from the NHI or public release of materials that will move the topic forward. All the stuff happening since 2017 has a purpose because NHi events are imminent, and they are all designed to wake the public up from its zombie state.

A wild ride awaits 2025 because the NHi may take advantage of Trump's willingness to upset the deep state's cover ups.. Trump could easily become a disclosure president when confronted with more NHi activity.

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123075185#Comment_123075185

"I find it hard to decide whether Luiz Elizondo is a controller agent or someone who truly wants to inform the public of what is going on"

Or perhaps Luis Elizondo is neither. He gets money for his book. He gets fame and attention for being on the UFO circuit.

Countless people will sell their soul for a tiny chance to be vaguely known or famous or even make a bit of money from it.

Cheerful S

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123076066#Comment_123076066

There has been a lot said in the past, now it's just a matter of being prepared for what's to come.

In my opinion, what's happening is a split occurred in the legacy UFO controller program, and some of these people decided they didn't want to be a part of it anymore.

There is a battle within the legacy ufo control group, as elizondo still holds classified clearances. There are quite a few people in the defence department who want the secret to remain secret, and others who want to share more without harming the national security of the nation.

Why did the decision to break away from it suddenly take place. My view is that the NHi are indicating that the end of secrecy is near and that it will be changed soon. If things haven't changed, you don't need to reveal your tech to enemies abroad.

A struggle is raging internally about how to reveal the technology without destroying the established network which has been built around this since Roswell. . The Elizonda faction probably tries to stage-manage this disclosure so it doesn't damage the country.

One time, Elizonda was a member of the controller group. It is unclear who is pulling the strings and who is Mr. Big. There is no basis for believing that all ufo legacy group members are bad. Clearly brought in different perspectives to look at strange things. Elizonda went in a different direction deliberately later.

If you don't lose security clearances to secrets, it's a sign you're protected inside an established network. Fame and money might seem to be the cause for you, but something more powerful is happening.

I believe the Nhi is forcing a faction controlling the legacy program to come out. Think trying to not cripple the entire trust in defense and intelligence by revealing non human tech outside of legacy controls. It is unlikely that we will get full access to the ufo legacy program, but I think that a private ufo group could reveal the technology in a different way. This is a good way to avoid being burdened by the past cover up crimes.

Will the world care if same technology captured at Roswell is shown tomorrow by someone else? That's what I think. This is the end goal. The preparations since 2017 are leading to this.

That information will never be easily obtained from gatekeepers who don't like the NHi group coming here to break the secrecy cover. The split group probably found a way around that, and they'll be handed technology from another group of NHi. In the same way that Chinese and Americans do not get along, the NHi do not get along either

It looks like 2025 is going to be the year. All the signs point to it. No more talk about nonhumans visiting earth. It will be shown very soon either by the split controller group or by the NHI working on removing all secrecy.

In either case, my words on a forum do not constitute evidence for most people. The coming year, people will be able to witness this for themselves. It will not be ambiguous, but it will be there for all to see.

Hoop66

See you in December/next January for "2026 is going to be the year".

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An FBI investigation into thousands of reported drone sightings around New Jersey late last year has uncovered no suspects, and failed to recovered any drones (well, none that they want you to know about anyway).

Meanwhile, more mysterious drone sightings have again been reported in Northeast, in a strange surge, just after the FAA - Federal Aviation Administration, lifted temporary flight restrictions on the 25th Jan.

The leader of the free world is pretty busy with other stuff, including fending off those nasty cartel delivery drones* along the Souther Border, but has assigned chief of staff — Susie, to investigate the East Coast incidents.

Meanwhile Governor Landry (Louisiana) said: “[Last week] we had drones being flown over our nuclear reactors in Louisiana.”

*One of the scores of Executive Orders Trump signed – declaring a national emergency at the border with Mexico – called for the Secretary of Transportation and the Federal Communications Commission to “consider waiving all applicable Federal Aviation Administration and Federal Communications Commission regulations or policies, respectively, that restrict the Department of Homeland Security’s ability to counter unmanned aerial systems within 5 miles of the southern border.”

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Trump's new (and most excellent) Press Sec (Karoline Leavitt), opened her 1st press briefing today (a very enjoyable watch), with a prompt, but somewhat weak explanation of all the drone (but not UAP) activity, as was promised.

Explanation: "These are FAA Research Drones"

So to summarise:
Biden admin: There are no drones, you idiots.
Trump admin: They are FAA research drones
FBI, DHS, FAA and DOD: We don't know what they are
Governor Landry (Louisiana): Please stop flying these things over our nuclear reactors in Louisiana.
Germany: Increased reports of 'uncooperative' drones, over critical infrastructure and military properties have resulted in law changes, to make it easier to take them down with force.
UK: Security elevated at important sites due to UAP/Drone activity.

Maybe it really is Chinese anti-gravity drones, or NHI UAPs - Thus, it's best to keep this away from the public realm, and to vaguely call it 'R&D', and hope for the best from there.

silliussoddius

FAA research, or authorized by the FAA for research?

And yet, videos of planes are shown.

https://twitter.com/MiddleOfMayhem/status/1884668299977617631

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123110404#Comment_123110404

There is a lot of stuff above us, likewise at night. Aircraft of all types, helicopters, satellites, private and commercial drones, etc.

When someone creates some hysteria on social media and it catches on, then everyone starts looking up and seeing these things, which creates a snowball effect.

Good few examples of this throughout history. Social media has a strong amplifying effect.