November Vanilla Werewolf - Game Thread

OscarMIlde · 26-11-2024 12:01AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122885023#Comment_122885023

Yeah, they just attacked all evening but were planning on voting for someone else. Give me a break.

Villagers are voting for potential wolves. I thought Liz was suspicious and that people were attacking me as distraction. I was wrong about Liz but not wrong about distraction.

Leg End Reject · 26-11-2024 12:03AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122885059#Comment_122885059

Keep howling.

tritium · 26-11-2024 12:05AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122884866#Comment_122884866

that’s fine but it’s the evolution of your thinking really am interested in

For example your read at 4:40

“JPLiz - The most unpredictable player among us. I’ve no fecking clue haha”

at 6:13

“I’m leaning village. With over 24 hours before lynch she doesn’t need to post this if she’s a wolf. Loads of time for teammates to try and guide a vote away from her. If she posted the below now with a few hours to go then I could think differently”

full disclosure here- I did push you to take a position, you made dinner in the meantime, and your position turns out to be correct. However I’m trying to understand the more throwaway early read on one of the players who had been under greatest pressure, within a fairly detailed read?

OscarMIlde · 26-11-2024 12:06AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122885056#Comment_122885056

But I will be revealed as village. The village needs to be smart. Who is posting in a genuine fashion and who is posting nonsense. I think I am safe from munch as not worth wasting it on. People are suspicious of me so no influence and I am marked so why waste a munch on someone who may be lynched. I feel whoever is munched will be informative. Either someone influential or someone inconsequential which gives no info.

Maybe people could post FFA if they have changed their minds. So when we lose someone we may have some information to go with it

OscarMIlde · 26-11-2024 12:11AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122885046#Comment_122885046

They can pick off any villager they want with no fear of repercussion. They will pick who benefits them most. That is common sense.

tritium · 26-11-2024 12:13AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122884998#Comment_122884998

I like this post. It leans the right way. Wolves wouldn’t usually post this imho

OscarMIlde · 26-11-2024 12:16AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122885142#Comment_122885142

A villager would never advocate lynching a villager. To win villagers need to identify wolves. It is a numbers game and a time game. You need to reduce their numbers before they reduce ours. Lynching a villager is counterproductive and not informative.

tritium · 26-11-2024 12:16AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122885008#Comment_122885008

Go jump with your exposed liar nonsense. Take a look at the details instead of trying to use pedantry to your gain.

Necro · 26-11-2024 12:20AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122884382#Comment_122884382

No OMGUS, was unimpressed with your follow up from a decent intro.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122884508#Comment_122884508

Let's not start telling fairytales now. It was a solid village read of Neo and a 'hmm maybe these guys too'

Semi-confident in Neo being village.
Ditto for lorcan, wrestlemaniac and trit though I suspect I'll not get agreement on some of those.

The rest was me being unsure about the rest of the field pretty much bar Liz, MacDanger and Lordie. There was no thesis, and you making it out to be that way is weird.

Anyways, I said I'd address your posts and I have.

Now, to the votes!

OscarMIlde · 26-11-2024 12:23AM

I've said my piece. Anyone with a lick of sense can see I am being consistent and honest. Take of my posts and other people's responses to them as you wish.

Neowise · 26-11-2024 12:23AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122885155#Comment_122885155

That's just not true.

I'm a villager, and i advocated yeeting wrestlemaniac, even if they were a villager. They could well be a wolf, but i was happy to vote there, even if they were a villager.

We can misyeet about 3 villagers.

you call yourself a villager, but you misyeeted liz instead.

we be down to 9-3 now with a munch on the way.

7-3

5-3

two more misyeets available.

OscarMIlde · 26-11-2024 12:24AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122885186#Comment_122885186

I thought Liz could be a wolf. I would not advocate lynching a villager.

tritium · 26-11-2024 12:27AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122885155#Comment_122885155

a villager would try to lynch a wolf. A villager would also make the most of a mislynch however

tritium · 26-11-2024 12:29AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122885190#Comment_122885190

and you point is?

btw I think you’re a wolf

convince me otherwise

Necro · 26-11-2024 12:55AM

Liz voters:

Necro - moi - pretty obvious where I was voting. I'll get to my progression on Liz later @tritium but it would be fair to say I've been pushing Liz since yesterday. I was wrong on her alignment, but I stand behind my reasoning on voting her. Timing of my vote… very early on. Yesterday evening probably. I think I declared it on thread at the time. Didn't move it.

Oscar - pretty sure Oscar was fairly clearly voting Liz as well. I will double check the reasoning but the main reason I'm interested is there's no self-pres vote for Liz towards the end. I find wolf!Oscar more likely to save themselves rather than wolf!Lord jumping into implicate himself so I would go against what @y0ssar1an22 says and find that Lord/Oscar are not as likely to be teamed. That's especially when you consider Lord's vote was the final one cast and he says it was done at 8.30, a whole hour beforehand.

Lord - Last vote. Naturally, suspicion always falls on the last voter in a tight race like this one… though the timings of the last votes seem to be 1.5 and 1 hour away from lynch. Now, that does not mean Lord is not a wolf, just unlikely to be voting to save a team-mate, in my view.

Oscar voters:

Strawbs: Readslist has Oscar as strongest wolf lean. I'm not sure anything can be garnered from this just yet, we would need to know Strawbs or Oscar's alignment really and even that might not tell us much. Might make Strawbs more likely to be a wolf but eh… I'm reaching here because I just don't have enough data. @StrawbsM - did you say what time you voted at? Sorry if I missed it.

Trit: Has both Liz and Oscar on his FFA. If Oscar is a villager, trit is more likely to be a wolf here I think. Slight bit of hedging going on and I don't see where the vote was declared. It's the most intriguing of the three votes on Oscar for me and I'm keeping an eye on the thread in real time too, so I can see Oscar and trit going hammer and tongs at each other.

Leggy: Voted last of the Oscar voters according to the vote tally, so assuming Leg is on the up and up about this at least, we know the last vote for Oscar was around 8.06pm.

Wrestlemaniac voters:

Neowise: pretty clear from early on where Neo was voting. Again, like Strawbs, can't garner much from this without more data. One interesting point of note is Neo was willing to switch if we raced Oscar and Green… nobody really bit however re: Green.

yosser: @y0ssar1an22 did you say what time you voted WM at? Not really relevant as only two votes but I'd be interested nonetheless…

Leggy voters:

Liz: dead villager. Only complete data point I have apart from my own!

MacDanger: I checked MacDanger's FFA and Leggy was top. Here's an interesting thing though - Mac declares his vote for Leggy at 8.58pm, which appears to be the latest declared vote on record up to now.

Necro

Greenie: Green has what 6 posts, all pretty much about me (or lorc and Neo in one). No prizes for guessing where his vote went. @Green&Red if you are a villager, I implore you to please expand your horizons from the top posters and at least consider others, if you still want to vote for me that's absolutely fine but at least explore scenarios where I'm not a wolf in your eyes. If you're a wolf, continue doing your thang I guess?

Lord:

lorcan: 7.19pm says he's keeping his vote on Lord, can you clarify the time you voted Lord exactly, looks like you mentioned placeholder at 1.50pm? Standalone votes are tricky in isolation, they can be a wolf wanting to stay away from attention but on the other hand they can just be that a villager has a belief and won't be swayed.

StrawbsM

jayo: New player-ish, says they voted about 6.30 or so, if I read correctly. Taking that at face value. Again difficult to judge. Will keep an eye and see where they vote tomorrow if I'm still here.

Neo:

Wrestlemaniac: WM plays the game their way - pretty clear who they were voting in fairness. Again, I can't take much from this yet.

Necro · 26-11-2024 01:05AM

And of course, everyone's in bed when I finish up my big post. Boo!

Neowise · 26-11-2024 01:09AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122885276#Comment_122885276

fyi,

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122884008#Comment_122884008

I also told liz to vote wrestlemaniac, which could have saved her.

Necro · 26-11-2024 01:22AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122885299#Comment_122885299

Ah, missed that. It could have but then again a third vote on Leggy could have saved her too given MacDanger votes so late so it's six of one, half a dozen of the other in hindsight

Why is the thread out for Oscars blood since the yeeting, what did they do that's so bad? I'm not here to defend them I just don't really see it? No self pres and a last vote cast an hour prior to yeeting occurs...

y0ssar1an22 · 26-11-2024 01:23AM

@Necro his 1st post. its too much of a backroom slip

y0ssar1an22 · 26-11-2024 01:24AM

was at about 8 - 8.30pm i voted.

Necro · 26-11-2024 01:24AM

Do Lord and Leggy work as a team... Hmm. Leggy gave Lord a lot of stick for being too villager to be a villager (that's a new thing to me 🤣 ) but votes Oscar

Lord is torn between voting Leg and Liz but winds up on Liz...

I can see it being possible....

Necro · 26-11-2024 01:29AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122885326#Comment_122885326

I don't know if I really believe it tbh. The whole fellow wolves thing is clearly part of their shtick along with the cryptic posts. Like we have to assume WM is essentially