Planning required for dropped kerb?

thequietman1981

Hi,

I've been trying to look at info around planning regs and finding some conflicting info.

I live in a cul de sac in an estate and want to take out my front garden to extend my driveway. The end of the garden goes directly to the tarmac of the estate with no footpath in between and there are no walls that need to be taken down.

It's also not practical to park at the end of the garden currently as to do that would block access to a couple of my neighbours so it would not be removing any street parking.

I know a few neighbours have done similar to this over the past few years and don't seem to have made planning applications to drop their kerbs so just looking for some guidance to make sure.

Thanks in advance

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058380963/planning-required-for-dropped-kerb

You don’t need planning to drop the kerb but you do need planning to alter or create the vehicular entrance.

Once you have planning in place then you apply for the council to from the kerb.

Where are you based?

thequietman1981

Thanks a lot, I'm in county Louth. I would be altering the vehicular entrance by widening the existing driveway across where the kerbs are currently although there is no boundary wall or fence there, the garden/kerbs run along the street of the estate.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122846127#Comment_122846127

So planning to widen the existing entrance. Then once that’s done, apply for the dishing.

In Dublin, the max entrance width is 3m so bear that in mind if it’s worth going though the process.

thequietman1981

Great thanks a million for that.

CramCycle

My mother in law wrote into the council to get hers widened, stating access issues as on street parking meant she could be effectively blocked in to her drive way. No planning, they came out and done it for her, cost was a few 100euro. Might be an alternative to doing it yourself.

thequietman1981

Interesting, similar scenario here as if someone parks on street at end of my garden it would block 2 others in addition to me to getting to our driveways. Will look into that. Thanks a lot.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122846179#Comment_122846179

the dishing or the widening of the entrance?

CramCycle

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122846258#Comment_122846258

They done both (if I understand what you are asking, nothing on her land, just on the pavement and dishing down to the street), although there was no external wall so maybe that is a consideration, the previous owner had taken the wall out and made it all into one gravelled area (no planning permission asked for but maybe there should have been, they didn't mention it when extending the dishing either way).

The dishing only allowed driving in on one side, she asked about expanding it and they extended the dishing by over a metre to effectively make the entrance from the street wider (and also to stop people parking right up against the edge and blocking her in), so it was now over 3/4 of the way across her front, rather than just under half. Memory says it cost €600 all in. Dun Laoghaire Rathdown County Council.

148multi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058380963/planning-required-for-dropped-kerb

What width is the road

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122846344#Comment_122846344

Yes if the vehicle widening is already in place you can get them to dish the oath by providing an affidavit confirming the entrance is over 7 years old. I also had to do this for my dad.

DCC. About €750 nowadays. I paid €150 many years ago 😂

Or if the council are doing a program of pavement upgrades then you can widen your entrance before they do it and you’ll get the dishing for free. Just before Covid I done a planning app for 4 houses in a row as they got wind of pavement upgrades the following year!

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122846344#Comment_122846344

If the driveway entrance was already widened they didn't do both, then only did the dishing of the kerb as the entracne was existing. Both widening existing dishing and providing new dishing would come under "dishing of the kerb". The kerb is generally in their ownership/maintenance, hence why they do it - you can't do it your self.

Modifying the entrance to the site, widening an opening in the wall, and/or widening the driveway where is joins the road is all modifying a vehicular entrance and must be done by the owner, and requires planning.