Oscars 2025

JP Liz V1

I wonder can Academy members vote for themselves or relatives if nominated

George White

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123096184#Comment_123096184

I remember an interview from c.1981-1982, with Roddy McDowall talking about his academy membership, where he, a noted cineaste confessed that he was one of the few who actually did watch everything.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123089544#Comment_123089544

Shawshank and Gump are fine but in scheme of things not particularly notable. Anora and The Brutalist are two I'm looking forward to seeing, Wicked I really enjoyed. I loved the Nickel Boys as a book too so I'd actually say it's far better than plenty of years TBH.

sprucemoose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123093700#Comment_123093700

one of the main actors is non-binary and has changed their name in the last few days to 'Jack Haven'

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123096184#Comment_123096184

What makes me feel very cynical is that you hear of films being released later in the year to be in with a better chance of nomination, do the people in the academy have that little of an attention span that they wouldn't be able to remember a good film from earlier in the year?

Hamsterchops

Best Actress / Demi Moore 🤞

She's been a long time waiting, and personally speaking I think she deserves best actress for her performance in The Substance.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123096477#Comment_123096477

Shawshank is one of the finest movies ever made, its a masterpiece.

Forrest Gump is a very good film, and has lasted the test of time.

Pulp Fiction is Tarentinos best, its a masterpiece.

Hard to believe those films are 30 years old.

People say this every year. I personally think Sawshank and Forrest are overrated.

Either way 2024 was a great year for film and this notion that films were better years ago is just not true.

We also Leon, Four Weddings and a Funeral, The Crow, Interview with the Vampire, Quiz Show and many other films released in 1994. Some great comedies like Dumb and Dumber, The Mask and Ace Ventura.

Name me a few films in 2024 that would be in their league ??

flasher0030

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123097656#Comment_123097656

1994 was a good year for Jim Carrey

johnny_ultimate

There’s never a bad year for film, just variances in how many of them are in multiplexes. And the Oscars rarely reflect the most interesting things happening in cinema (though I’d say Nickel Boys and Anora were among the best of the last 12 months, and a few other heavily nominated ones were at least interesting or worth watching).

La Chimera, All We Imagine As Light, Hundreds of Beavers, Chime, I Saw The TV Glow, Perfect Days, Soundtrack to a Coup d’Etat… just a few of the great films last year.

Even outside the smaller and independent releases, films like Challengers, Furiosa and The Iron Claw spring to mind as classic crowdpleasers. And Anora and Hundreds of Beavers are great cinema comedies - had a great time watching those with a crowd.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123098264#Comment_123098264

Yep I also think limiting ourselves to Hollywood in terms of the great stuff from the year is a bit silly. You could equally have made the claim in the 90s that we weren't getting a similar run that happened during the award seasons in the 60s/70s. But it's always more to do with rose tinted glasses IMHO.

I do think a valid criticism that applies to the Oscars is that it's often the most conservative for nominations and even winners. Other awards tend to have the more interesting selections. I am somewhat surprised that The Substance is up for best picture for that reason. 😂

JP Liz V1

SAG Nominations

Film Actor

Adrien Brody, The Brutalist
Timothée Chalamet, A Complete Unknown
Daniel Craig, Queer
Colman Domingo, Sing Sing
Ralph Fiennes, Conclave

Film Actress

Pamela Anderson, The Last Showgirl
Cynthia Erivo, Wicked
Karla Sofía Gascón, Emilia Pérez
Mikey Madison, Anora
Demi Moore, The Substance

Film Supporting Actor

Jonathan Bailey, Wicked
Yura Borisov, Anora
Kieran Culkin, A Real Pain
Edward Norton, A Complete Unknown
Jeremy Strong, The Apprentice

Film Supporting Actress

Monica Barbaro, A Complete Unknown
Jamie Lee Curtis, The Last Showgirl
Danielle Deadwyler, The Piano Lesson
Ariana Grande, Wicked
Zoe Saldana, Emilia Perez

expectationlost

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123114799#Comment_123114799

no Stan stans?

silliussoddius

Well this escalated

https://epicstream.com/article/emilia-perez-karla-sofia-gascon-skip-awards-events-online-controversy

expectationlost

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123134291#Comment_123134291

sailed pretty close to disparaging her competition https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/karla-sofia-gascon-takes-back-claim-fernanda-torres-team-spoke-badly-about-her-1235250763/

Hamsterchops

At this stage I guess many people are hoping the movie crashes off the edge of ithe planet and disappears from sight. Thirteen Oscar nominations, then Controversy after controversy, bad feelings, pronouns & offensive tweets, in what was meant to elevate Karla Gascon to become the first openly Trans lady to win an Oscar. Oh boy, how that agenda has blown up and sunk.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123138443#Comment_123138443

Has the Academy ever cancelled nominees, taken them out before the show, off the ballot?

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123139848#Comment_123139848

The LGBT community hated the movie, the Mexican community hated. So in general, plenty of groups hated the movie for good reason so I don't think there was a general hope of her or the movie winning.

Unrelated to that shitshow. I watched Anora the other night, was initially feeling that it was not my kind of movie but the opening felt like it was the happy before a much darker movie. Felt like something from the Coen brothers at times and also had the frenetic energy of Uncut Gems. Absolutely adored it by the end. It also flew by.

Also watched A Complete Unknown and hated it. Felt like it was maintaining the enigma of Dylan more than anything.

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123096477#Comment_123096477

The Oscars brings out some off the wall opinions. But "Shawshank and Gump are fine" is some of the maddest things I've ever heard. They are both, along with Pulp fiction, considered among the best movies ever made.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123097656#Comment_123097656

The Lion King also picked up the best Song and Score that year.
The 90s are probably he strongest decade statistically, with 1994 (or 1999) arguably the best of he 90s.

Brief_Lives

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123139848#Comment_123139848

so what exactly happened, she said something racist a few years ago? this is the trans lead?

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123140175#Comment_123140175

Forrest Gump while an entertaining movie, I personally would never classify it as one of the finest movies ever made. In general, I think it didn't deserve the best film at the time. I'd tend to classify it as marmite, somebody people either hate or enjoy it. My perspective is it's fine but I haven't an urge to go back to it any time soon.

I'm also a huge King fan so I do love Shawshank. So I'd happily concede that it's a great film. But my overall point is that it's a period being viewed through rose tinted glasses and plenty of movies on par with Shawshank/Pulp Fiction have come out pretty much every year since. I'd also not tend to limit myself to English language movies. So no, I don't think we've been on a steady decline in terms of quality of movies or anything when you look beyond blockbuster schlock.

I just find it a tad silly implying cinema overall has gone downhill. It hasn't.

johnny_ultimate

I'm always puzzled there is such controversy over the opinion that Forrest Gump is a bad or even medicore film (I'd lean more towards the former). It's hackneyed and mawkish nonsense IMO. I've no problem whatsoever with people liking it - lord knows I like films other people hate - but it's hardly bulletproof when put under even the tiniest bit of critical scrutiny.

Anyway, the best film of 1994 IMO was Chungking Express by a country mile - at least compared to the Oscar nominees - though Pulp Fiction was a league ahead of most of the rest of the Oscars nominees that year. Krzysztof Kieślowski would've been a great Best Director winner in an alternate universe however - kind of amazing he even got a nomination.

Hamsterchops

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123140205#Comment_123140205

He/she tweeted some racist stuff several years ago, somebody dug up the tweets and published them, and lovely smiling Karla is in the bad books. Not sure if the offending tweets were sent before or after the adoption of the new name & new persona!

Sounds like the film is mad anyway.

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123140232#Comment_123140232

I'll state the obvious and say that opinion's are subjective. It's perfectly fine not not like any movie, whatever the consensus.
But there's a difference between some trending flavour of the month, and coming wildly rated for decades.

IMDB is a huge database. Films from all over the World. New releases are over rated, but that fizzes out quickly.
The top 250 movies is a solid list movies, there are biases of course, but solid none the less.

https://www.imdb.com/chart/top/

The highest rate movie on IMDB. Shawshank. I'm not saying it should be everyone's best movie ever. But saying it's not particularly notable is ridiculous. Marmite is a niche taste, most people hate it. That doesn't seem appropriate at all

Pulp fiction is at 8th. Forrest Gump 11th (well tied at 10th). The 90s have 8 out of the top 20s.
Pick any random year in the 90s, and the Best picture movies are all well know modern classics.

The last 10 years are nowhere near as good as the 90s. AINEC

Decuc500

I will say this about the 90's at the risk of dragging the Oscar thread further off topic.

Those movies listed above (Shawshank/Forrest/Pulp Fiction) have certainly entered popular culture like I don't think no 2024 films will, no matter how good they are. People who don't really love movies still know these movies!

I agree with Chunking Express. A masterpiece and a game changer for me to open up world cinema.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123140360#Comment_123140360

I was referring to marmite in relation to Forrest Gump. You'll find plenty of posters on this forum such as @johnny_ultimate that don't much time for Forrest Gump and it's not limited to massive cinema fans. So yep it's pretty divisive and there are plenty that don't think it's a particularly good movie. It's definitely not a remotely controversial opinion and an IMDb rating isn't changing that fact.

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123140577#Comment_123140577

You described both as not particularly notable. Which was what I was responding to, and mainly Shawshank.
I brought up the ratings, as being the highest rated movie out of maybe half a million movies on IMDB is, imo, notable.

There have been some good moves in the last decade. They stanard for the big awards is not as high as it was 20-30 years ago imo.
Barbie was a best picture nominee FFS

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123140673#Comment_123140673

Personally, I'd stand by Forrest Gump not being notable. It's popular but is it a great movie. Shawshank is excellent but I'd stand by there having been plenty of movies of that quality since 1994 . So I think we're gonna agree to disagree at this point if I'm honest.

One thing to note, I would tend to always use awards other than the Oscars in terms of finding quality. I would classify things like The Substance and Anora to be pretty great movies though.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123140205#Comment_123140205

I think she also made digs at fellow nominee Fernanda Torres or her fans

George White

Gascon seems to be the India Willoughby of Spain, someone who transitioned late in life, who is positioned as some kind of 'stunning and brave' icon, and then turns out to be a racist and a lunatic.

Espana Willoughby, if you will.

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123140794#Comment_123140794

We've gone from Shawshank is not notable, to a great movie. To excellent. If you said excellant originaly I wouldn't have blinked. So happy to leave that there.

One thing to note, I would tend to always use awards other than the Oscars in terms of finding quality. I would classify things like The Substance and Anora to be pretty great movies though.

Sure, it's one set of awards. Palme d'Or is another with a much more varied and international focus. Pulp Fiction 1994, Anora, fwiw.
I think the bluster of The Brutalist will carry it to a sweep of awards/

Hamsterchops

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123140950#Comment_123140950

Espana Willoughby 😂

or Siñoreta Doubtfire.

flasher0030

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123140794#Comment_123140794

On rotten tomatoes, Forrest Gump has a 95% rating amongst the general audience - taking into account over 250,000 people. That's 19 out of 20 people has reacted very positively towards it. It has a score of 4.9 out of 5 on amazon out of over 40,000 people. That's a 98% score.

You can stand by all you want in terms pf your views, but your view that it is not a notable movie is clearly incorrect.

Man Vs ManUre

I’d say it’s time for a sci-fi film to win best picture and Dune 2 is as good a sci-fi film that’s ever been made. But then I remember Everything everywhere ……. won just a few years ago, I watched that on Prime and thought it was a terrible load of nonsense. Dunno how it won.

~Rebel~

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123140419#Comment_123140419

I think it's hard to say what movies will achieve that sort of longevity in the year they come out… you just don't know what's going to spark over time. Now, I don't think anything can land quite like films from that period in particular — was the sweet spot of a smaller number of professional productions being made, and widespread access to watch them in cinema or at home either on TV or VCR and then DVD. Before that you didn't have access to movies as easily, and after that we hit this period of ultimate unlimited access to an every increasing deluge of productions each year so it's harder for things to gain traction.

Could well end up that some smaller movie like A Different Man, or even some oddball like Lisa Frankenstein find a greater niche than they'd have been expected to hit and find some cultural cache.

Hamsterchops

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123141543#Comment_123141543

Is DUNE a remake or is it a follow on …

Also, without giving the game away, are there any aliens? I love sci-fi films too.

Man Vs ManUre

2007 and 2008 were great years, the departed, Iwo Jima, there will be blood, blood diamond, no country for old men, atonement. Into the wild didn’t even get nominated much and it had a brilliant leading man performance. There will be blood must be the best film to not win best film.

JP Liz V1

I would have put Wicked as clear front runner as winner of best picture, but will this being part 1 hinder it, it is a success, critically and commercially

JP Liz V1

Critics Choice Winners

Best picture: "Anora"

Best actor: Adrien Brody, "The Brutalist"

Best actress: Demi Moore, "The Substance"

Best supporting actor: Kieran Culkin, "A Real Pain"

Best supporting actress: Zoe Saldaña, "Emilia Pérez"

Best director: Jon M. Chu, "Wicked"

Best original screenplay: Coralie Fargeat, "The Substance"

Best adapted screenplay: Peter Straughan, "Conclave"

RickBlaine

I always watch the Oscars every year. It's not perfect by any stretch but it is the biggest night of the year for movie industry despite all its faults. As such, I watch as many nominated movies as I can, and to be fair, almost every nominated movie each year has at least some merit.

I'm about 30 minutes into Emilia Perez and a character says about a car radio "Can you ask them to lower this f*cking noise please". That is exactly how I feel about the songs in this movie. Absolutely cringe.

Man Vs ManUre

I watched Emilia Perez on Netflix, thought it was pretty good. 2 great performances in it. Musicals arnt really my thing but I liked this and the greatest showman.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123159610#Comment_123159610

Which 2?

Man Vs ManUre

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123159627#Comment_123159627

Selena G was good also but her role was much smaller than the other 2.

George White

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123152907#Comment_123152907

Also the film is incredibly apologetic that its trans lead is a paedophile. It's stated Emilia started dating Selena Gomez when Gomez's character was 14. Like no wonder the people who think Isla Bryson is seen as a trans icon like it.

JP Liz V1

Conclave was winner of both best film and best British film at BAFTAs

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/feb/16/baftas-2025-the-full-list-of-winners-live

JP Liz V1

SAG Winners

FEMALE ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE
Pamela Anderson, The Last Showgirl
Cynthia Erivo, Wicked
Karla Sofía Gascón, Emilia Pérez
Mikey Madison, Anora
Demi Moore, The Substance — WINNER

MALE ACTOR IN A LEADING ROLE
Adrien Brody, The Brutalist
Timothée Chalamet, A Complete Unknown — WINNER
Daniel Craig, Queer
Colman Domingo, Sing Sing
Ralph Fiennes, Conclave

FEMALE ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
Monica Barbaro, A Complete Unknown
Jamie Lee Curtis, The Last Showgirl
Danielle Deadwyler, The Piano Lesson
Ariana Grande, Wicked
Zoe Saldaña, Emilia Pérez — WINNER

MALE ACTOR IN A SUPPORTING ROLE
Jonathan Bailey, Wicked
Yura Borisov, Anora
Kieran Culkin, A Real Pain — WINNER
Edward Norton, A Complete Unknown
Jeremy Strong, The Apprentice

Irish Aris

Chalamet's win last night was a bit unexpected and might open the best leading actor category in the Oscars. I don't expect any surprises in the other 3 categories.

dublinman1990

RTÉ One is showing The Oscars live on RTÉ One at 12 midnight on the 3rd of March.

Highlights will still be available for viewers on RTÉ2.

JP Liz V1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123205930#Comment_123205930

I think Sky lost them to ITV

Banjaxed82

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123205930#Comment_123205930

Shows how far the Oscars have fallen that RTE now screening it live.

To think of the 90's days when I'd sit there listening to the visually scrambled version on Sky Movies

expectationlost

this is desperate https://variety.com/2025/film/news/oscars-performers-wicked-ariana-grande-cynthia-erivo-1236319095/

In a break from tradition, this year’s ceremony will not include live performances of the best original song nominees.

https://twitter.com/TheAcademy/status/1894085041669489033