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  • 06-10-2024 7:04am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,853 ✭✭✭


    Hi,

    With a club team, can you have team s playing Junior A, Intermediate and Senior all in the same season?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,309 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Yes 3 different teams. Once a player plays for the superior team in the championship he is ineligible for any interior team.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Good morning!

    Yes a club can enter teams at multiple grades and it is both normal and common for clubs to do so.

    I was speaking with a Sixmilebridge colleague recently and they entered 5 adult teams this year all the way down to Junior C.


    One limitation of sorts - as a result of not being allowed to have two teams in one grade if one of the teams get relegated each team beneath that will in turn need to drop down a grade and that can result in the lowest team no longer having a grade to participate in.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Just to add to the above, there are differences in rules and competition structures from county to county but one interesting example occurred recently in Offaly in one of their underage football championships where Tullamore’s A and B teams were both entered at the same grade and they actually played each other in the county quarter final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,853 ✭✭✭obi604


    thanks all. so lets say the intermediate team won their championship and get promoted to Senior.
    So you would have the already existing senior team and then the newly promoted intermediate team at Senior. What happens here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭Rega


    The intermediate team isn't promoted. Happened in Carlow football a few years back. Éire Óg's intermediate team won the championship but couldn't be promoted to the same division as their seniors. That year, there was no team relegated from senior football to keep the numbers in the competition.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,188 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    In Limerick a club can only have a single team per grade so for instance when Na Piarsaigh won intermediate recently the runner up got promoted to senior.

    It's the same in practically every sport. In soccer Barcelona and Madrid sometimes win Liga B but are not allowed be promoted to Liga A



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭Stationmaster


    Actually, it can vary from county to county depending on each counties own bye laws. Some counties have provisions where it can happen and the club has to name 2 separate clubs at the start of the championship and stick to them. it's very unusual though and rarely happens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Uncle Pierre


    A variation on this can be that the runners-up of the lower grade are promoted instead. Happened here in Wexford the last time my own club won the Intermediate Hurling Championship. We knew even before the final that we'd be promoted anyway, because the club we were playing against already had a senior team, and so their Intermediates couldn't be promoted to senior as well if they happened to win the final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭C4000


    Kilcormac Killoughey had the option of fielding two teams in the Offaly senior hurling championship this year after winning the Senior B last year, but chose not to. They've now won senior b again this year.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    That didn’t happen.

    In Limerick when a team wins the Intermediate championship they are promoted to the Premier Intermediate championship. Na Piarsaigh defeated Croagh-Kilfinny in the 2022 Intermediate final, spent 2023 and 2024 playing in Premier Intermediate and following their relegation in this years championship they will be back playing Intermediate next year.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Dano650


    I think Naas have four hurling teams competing at Senior, Senior B, Intermediate and Junior



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,188 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Ya your right. I was thinking they won Premier Intermediate.

    I do think I was right in saying the Premier Intermediate runners up would get promoted in that instance but could be wrong there too and promotion could be cancelled. Not sure it's been tested yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Uncle Pierre


    Another bit of a variation or anomaly or call-it-what-you-like, that I've just thought of:

    Here in Wexford, a year or two ago, Naomh Éanna (Gorey) were allowed to enter two hurling teams at Junior B level, because of the playing numbers they had.

    However, they had to name a first 15 before the championship started, and anybody on that list couldn't go back to play with the second Junior B team. Anybody who wasn't on the list but who came up to play with the first Junior B team during the year couldn't drop back down to the second team either. So in essence, it operated the same way as normal between other and higher grades anyway.



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