Ireland's Refugee Policy cont. Please read OP before posting

dublin49

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123005192#Comment_123005192

is it clear if an asylum applicant is refused all supports are removed?

creeper1

This whole thing is a vanity project as well as a racket.

1.9 billion a year which will be a recurring bill. Staggering is only word to describe this.

An economic downturn would almost be a blessing in disguise to stop this metastatic growth before it really gets out of hand.

The annual spend on this asylum racket is now equivalent to a children's hospital.

The children's hospital was rightly critiqued as a monumental overspend and it is.

However it's mostly a one off payment and in the future will be of some utility.

The same can't be said for the asylum racket.

Also the children's hospital spend was viciously attacked by McDonald and Doherty.

Not a peep out of the pair about the asylum racket.

DayInTheBog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123005448#Comment_123005448

Their payment is stopped but not their accommodation

Francie Barrett

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123004070#Comment_123004070

How do ordinary people stand a chance against this torrent of disinformation and propaganda by the government and its connected entities? They do realise the more they lie or try to hide the truth, the more trust and cohesion breaks down?

DebDynamite

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123006200#Comment_123006200

Exactly. The whole piece was intended to dispel the “far right” rumours. Top person in GNIB comes on to tell us that asylum seekers are checked to see if they have only commuted any crimes in Europe or applied for asylum elsewhere, and that most of them are economic migrants. Eh yeah, that’s exactly what people have a problem with!! Is that really the best they can do?

Gen.Zhukov

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123004316#Comment_123004316

Good find that - I had a look at IGO Emergency management - On Solocheck it says they're going about a year

It has to be said…they really are a very lucky company to have received such lucrative contracts in such a short timescale - They're right up there when it comes to invoicing O'Gorman's dept for big wedge

Think about this - Assuming the claim in the video is correct (re payments to the directors), the difference between what they spend on providing the services and what they invoice the department for, allows them to pay themselves €1.2m each in year one - a staggering amount for a little company formed about a year ago and a profit margin most companies could only dream about

No-one in opposition or the media thinks this warrants investigation apparently

That's ^ just a sample of part of the massive walls of spreadsheets of PO's in just Q2 of 2024

Full list of PO's for Q1 & Q2 -

https://www.gov.ie/en/collection/dfdadb-department-of-children-and-youth-affairs-purchase-orders-for-20000-o/#2024

I also note that as we enter Q1 2025, they still haven't managed to put up the figures for Q3 2024…which is interesting

This is the greatest scam ever perpetrated on the Irish people right under their noses and thanks to RTE, Murt and Mary are oblivious to the reality - Controlling the media by the Govt was a Machiavellian masterstroke, but I will say to any of the media players out there that took the shilling - Karma's a bitch

Geuze

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/1230/1488432-migrant-gnib/

The head of the Garda National Immigration Bureau has said that there is no such thing as "an unvetted migrant" to this country and that everyone coming to Ireland seeking international protection is fingerprinted and identified.

He said the vast majority are economic migrants seeking a better life and that the few who have criminal records are detained before being removed from the country.

However, he also said that Albanian, Romanian and Chinese organised crime groups involved in drug dealing, car theft, exploitation and people smuggling are operating in Ireland.

It's great that we have confirmation from the head of the GNIB that the vast majority of AS are bogus. I have been saying this for years.

On the Albanian issue - I can't see any reason for there to be any Albanians at all in Ireland. Yet we have (stupidly) let some in, and like the UK, we now have Albanian organised crime groups.

rgossip30

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123005757#Comment_123005757

They should be given a tent as some of those already in tents are genuine.

Brian?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123006200#Comment_123006200

I actually think there’s a torrent of misinformation in general. The anti immigration parties are flinging all manner of nonsense at it as well.

I 100% agree we should have clarity from the government about what’s currently happening and ,more importantly, what their plan is to fix it. I don’t trust them to fix it either, BTW. I wouldn’t trust FFG to mind my dog.

At the same time we need the hyperbole from the anti immigration parties to stop as well. Trying to tar all asylum seekers with the same brush is ridiculous.

JP Liz V1

From Newstalk

18,561 people applied for international protection in Ireland in 2024 – the highest figure since records began.

The number of asylum applications exceeded the previous peak in 2022 by 36%, while last year’s figures represent a 40% increase on 2023.

prunudo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123009817#Comment_123009817

Seemed to drop off towards to end of the year compared to the first 6 months. Maybe the idea that they'll be staying in **** tents is filtering back to their mates in the London or Calais.

Headshot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123009817#Comment_123009817

I wonder why so many of these illegals are still coming……

This is what happens when a country has no deterrents

Money

Accommodation

Health care

The long drawn out shambles of immigration policy

Barely any enforcement of immigration policy where we just ask them nicely to leave….

It's no wonder these people are coming here to an Island on the far edge of Europe.

zell12

England resident Suchodolksdathe brought her Albanian partner from Spain to connect with a flight to UK. However, after Dublin Airport officials quizzed him about his documents, the man took out his real passport and applied for asylum in Ireland as Suchodolksda was arrested and refused bail.

GNIB Yang Meng told the court Suchodolksdathe and an Albanian man arrived at Dublin Airport on a Ryanair flight from Barcelona. They presented at passport patrol, and the accused showed her Polish passport. However, the man was questioned when he produced a fake Polish passport. He subsequently produced his Albanian passport and then claimed asylum

Another example of Ireland used as a back door to UK https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/young-mum-jailed-trying-smuggle-34408384

Blut2

In an any way rational system he would be immediately arrested, charged, and deported for attempting to use a fake passport to enter the country illegally. No ability to claim asylum given hes already been caught committing a crime.

But the fact he can now spend years working his way through the asylum system, being housed and fed, claming state legal aid for expensive appeals, and costing the Irish tax payer hundreds of thousands of euros, when we already know from the very outset hes a criminal, is utterly ridiculous.

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123009843#Comment_123009843

Thread is about refugee policy, what illegals are you talking about?

JP Liz V1

Didn't our government ministers mention illegal immigration, I think even Leo got in trouble for it but of course to some there is none

babyducklings1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123010015#Comment_123010015

That’s just bonkers. Irish tax payers just make sure you go into revenue do your tax return and get any penny, you can rightfully claim, because otherwise this is where the money is going , down the big leaky drain!

zell12

Minister for Justice uses 'illegal immigration' in 2024, 2024, 2008, 2012, 2017 etc. Taoiseach in 2007, etc

You don't tend to hear these questions often

Geuze

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123009981#Comment_123009981

It's amazing that if you describe this illegal Albanian immigrant, who was caught red-handed illegally entering the country on a false Polish passport, as an illegal immigrant, people on this thread will defend him, and say there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant.

Geuze

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123010016#Comment_123010016

See a few posts up, post #3884, for a story in the news today about an Albanian illegal immigrant.

enricoh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123009834#Comment_123009834

I'd say labour getting in in the UK stopped them upping sticks n moving here. Small mercies n all that!

Roderick the clown was saying 20-30k a year in future would be the new normal. When Mr Trump takes the reins in a few weeks the billions being p#ssed away on this scam won't be long drying up methinks.

Notable shift from the cheerleading newspapers recently too, the tide is going out on this unsustainable scam n they are trying to jump ship.

Headshot

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123010240#Comment_123010240

Yes they were **** themselves because of the Rwanda deal now it's easy street. It's all well in good Labour going for the Traffickers but you might as well be pissing in the wind, like Ireland the UK has no deterrent and they'll continue to cross the channel and when they get refused in the UK, they'll come over Ireland to try again

prunudo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123010240#Comment_123010240

yeah, the scrapping of the Rwanda plan would have effected numbers coming here alright.

Notable shift from the cheerleading newspapers recently too, the tide is going out on this unsustainable scam n they are trying to jump ship.

What surprised me today, was a couple of articles and reports in the Irish media saying we've reached peak woke, ironically coming from some of its biggest supporters.

Leg End Reject

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123009817#Comment_123009817

Mod: Please include a link for your source in all posts and add your own thoughts too.

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123010215#Comment_123010215

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123010215#Comment_123010215

Asylum seekers are not illegal immigrants.

There are illegal immigrants in Ireland, but they are not refugees or asylum seekers.

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123010382#Comment_123010382

When a person has their asylum application turned down and they remain in the state after failing to deport themselves, how should they be defined?

Lit by the faint glow of the gaslight.

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123010425#Comment_123010425

Then they are illegal immigrants, as they are illegally in the State. Without immigration status. Illegal.

nullzero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123010430#Comment_123010430

That's the group people are most likely describing when they use the term illegal.

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123010450#Comment_123010450

Is it? Strange the poster didn't say that then, when they spoke about

It's no wonder these people are coming here to an Island on the far edge of Europe.

And money, accomodation and health care

Considering illegal immigrants don't receive anything....…seems they were actually talking about asylum seekers, from reading the post.