Sinners

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123400047#Comment_123400047

Perhaps they were all only newly created that day so were uncertain about the rules of being a vampire. The Irish guy shouldn't have been caught out in it though.

El Duda

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123400629#Comment_123400629

Thanks for your kind words. Glad you enjoyed the film too.

howdydoo83

Nah something must be going on with these views.

This is like something written from American Fiction. I thought it was Robert Johnson not Buddy guy. Although he's looking good for close to 90

Irritated now.

Fysh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123402138#Comment_123402138

It'd be more interesting if you actually got into what you didn't like about the film or why. Your previous post didn't really give anyone reason to engage with your "awful, 1/5" review - which on a craft level alone is IMO already a bit silly, a film would have to be monumentally worse than this (and beyond simple "I didn't care for it" territory) to deserve that bad a rating.

But if you really thought it was that bad, make your case. What did it do wrong?

sprucemoose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123387732#Comment_123387732

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123400677#Comment_123400677

a podcast i listen to has suggested that it was meant to be MbJ and jonathan majors before all the awful stuff about him came out. seems there isnt a whole pile of evidence to back it up but i wouldnt be surprised either if it were the case

Full_Circle_81

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123402138#Comment_123402138

Funny you should mention Robert Johnson there. In my ignorance, I'd never heard of him before last week when he popped up in an episode of Timeless (really average time travel show). Watching Sinners a few days later made me think that Coogler must have used Johnson as inspiration, especially with the "deal with the devil" legend associated with him.

As far as the film goes, I thought it was fine, but I do find that Coogler films tend to be overrated in the extreme.

I was quite disappointed with the fight scenes (felt messy, and not intentionally so) and like others have mentioned, I didn't think there was enough of a distinction between the twins (in how they were written or acted).

The music was a highlight though, as was newcomer Miles Canton. Delroy Lindo and Jack O'Connell are always excellent (and underrated) as well....

p to the e

What a ride this was. There whole thing skated so close to absurdity but always kept on the right side of enjoyable. I expected something completely different than what I got and I'm glad for it. The actors trusted the vision of their director and gave him everything. I think if you also trust in it and just allow the director to guide you through his journey then you'll be better for it.

Hilarious in parts, shockingly violent in others and instantly quotable. I'd even go so far as to call it a musical with some outlandish musical numbers to rival the best of them. What a ride.

RGARDINR

I do wonder could they do a trilogy nearly of smoke and stack. 1 in ww1 as they mentioned they were in the trenches against Germans and then a 2nd film.of their time in the mob in Chicago.

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123429121#Comment_123429121

Unfortunately without the vampire element I dont think it would attract as big an audience. Probably not commercially viable.

El Duda

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123429121#Comment_123429121

Please God no

eightieschewbaccy

The best way to describe it was that the music and singing was absolutely intoxicating. I love horror but I'm generally not smiling and head bopping during them. 😂

McDermotX

Hmm.....somewhat disappointed with this one, especially after the generally positive reviews I'd caught on its release.

Initial trepidation of the trailers, specifically the blues motif etc, gave way a little as the first half of the film progressed. The overall setup was obviously somewhat formulaic and staid, but interesting actors carried it a little with a nice little intro for the villain of the piece giving a taste of what was to come.

Culminates in the midpoint melange musical number, which is quite a daring setpiece from Coogler which he deserves the plaudits for. But, it ultimately comes across as almost the central focus of the storyboarding for the director from the getgo with an extremely uneven second half to the film following, which is the disappointment.

Rushed to the extreme, it falls a bit flat. Some decent practical effects aside, it's a bit of a mess thematically and fails to stir the action heartbeats. Not sure what Coogler wanted to add on to the final act come dawn, other than the obvious period animosity which we've seen so many times before, but it's extremely sloppily handed to the point of feeling almost tacked on so its adds very little.

Continues through to the actual ending through the credits which probably carries on a bit too long once the 'gotcha' is communicated. Dont mind Jordan too much, even if he's too one note - certainly would have helped to have a different actor opposite him as opposed to what himself and Coogler went for, plus the likes of Lindo and the young guitarist prove watchable, but it's all a bit forgettable overall and doesn't leave any lasting feeling.

cena

Last hour was great.

_CreeD_

I found it disappointing. Probably a 6-7/10 for me, the missus however really only kept watching because I was. The production and performances were great but this felt like 2 movies to me. The primary being a race driven prohibition gangster movie that probably didn't get greenlit, with a competent vampire short film wedged into it to get it made. It's a rare case of the sum being less than the parts for me.