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Apartment I'm renting has gone into Receivership

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    you really don’t understand the law. The bank is entitled to its interest and principal. Until such time as possession proceedings are taken and effected, the landlord remains the landlord. The bank has security over the property and when a receiver is appointed the receiver takes control of the rent proceeds and applies them to pay interest and principal. If any excess arises, it must be turned over to the landlord. The landlord or the person entitled to the rent has not changed - the receiver does not have a beneficial interest in the rent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,982 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    You really don't understand the law.

    in the Residential tenancies act 2004 Section 5, "landlord"

    means the person for the time being entitled to receive (otherwise than as agent for another person) the rent paid in respect of a dwelling by the tenant thereof and, where the context so admits, includes a person who has ceased to be so entitled by reason of the termination of the tenancy;

    . The bank has appointed a receiver and is entitled to the rents until its debt is repaid. The bank does not need to take possession proceedings. If the bank wants, it can sell as mortgagee in possession. If you look at the legal packs on BIDx1, the majority of which are receivership sales, there are no possession orders. The purchasers buy on the basis of a breach of condition by the mortgagor entitling the bank to appoint a receive3r and foreclose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    nope! The bank is not entitled to the rent, the bank is entitled to seize the rent payable by the landlord to offset the debts owing by the landlord/borrower to the bank. The bank is owed cash, it is not owed rent. The rent is merely the mechanism by which it gets the cash.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,982 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    The landlord does not pay rent!. He owes the bank the outstanding sum on the mortgage. The bank is entitled to the rent to offset against the landlords debt. The rent has to be paid to the bank, therefore the bank is entitled to the rent and so it is the landlord for the purposes of the Residential Tenancies Act.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    obviously mean “to” the landlord and I’m giving up now because you don’t understand the concept of a receivership - the ownership of the asset and the underlying income does not change, it is a mechanism to direct the cash flow representing the income (rent).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,982 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    Control of the asset changes and the ownership can be changed by sale. In a situation like the o/ps the lease is void. The bank could throw him out. Instead, by asking for rent the have adopted the lease. Receivership is a means for a bank to take control of the property without a court order and take the income and proceeds of sale, passing any surplus back to the borrower.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭topal


    The lease may be void but their tenancy rights aren't. There is still a process to evict them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,982 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    There can't be a tenancy without a lease and there can't be rights without a tenancy. there is no eviction process. The bank can throw the tenants out without ceremony.

    https://www.thetimes.com/article/tenant-protests-against-eviction-5z0w8vg2tf0



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