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Building Regs and TGDs

  • 10-09-2024 11:17am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14


    Hi all,

    Would I be correct in saying that if you follow the TGD’s, by default you adhere to the building regs?

    Whos job is it to check that the work is being done as per TGD’s? Architect? Or the tradespeople?

    If you were unsure of the TGDs are, is online the only place to find them?

    Thanks



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭Tefral


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    The Technical Guidance documents are in effect what installations are benchmarked off.

    Ultimate responsibility for adhering to the Building regulations is the person who is instigating the work - i.e the homeowner. The homeowner can chose to delegate the enforcement of this to a suitably qualified person such as an Architect or Engineer on their behalf, but, even then, the ultimate responsibility is with the person instigating the work.

    The Building Control (Amendment) Regulations 2014 (BCAR) are applicable to the majority of construction
    projects commenced after 1st March 2014. This is a rigorous regime of uploading documents to the Local Authorities for review for building sign off before occupation about all the building construction materials and workmanship. The heart of these is the BCaR assigned certifiers docs which place ultimate responsibility on the private individual companies to certify the work and because they also require evidence of your PI insurance, this is largely incomplicance with the Building Control Acts
    1990 - 2007, Building Regulations 1997 - 2014 & Building Control Regulations 1997 - 2015

    Every product used in the building must have a CE Cert and a Declaration of Performance for sign off.

    The documents follow the same pathways

    FORM OF COMMENCEMENT NOTICE FOR DEVELOPMENT

    NOTICE OF ASSIGNMENT OF ASSIGNED CERTIFIER

    UNDERTAKING BY ASSIGNED CERTIFIER

    NOTICE OF ASSIGNMENT OF BUILDER

    UNDERTAKING BY BUILDER

    CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE ON COMPLETION

    OR

    FORM OF 7 DAY NOTICE

    *DESIGN CERTIFICATE

    NOTICE OF ASSIGNMENT OF ASSIGNED CERTIFIER

    UNDERTAKING BY ASSIGNED CERTIFIER

    NOTICE OF ASSIGNMENT OF BUILDER

    UNDERTAKING BY BUILDER

    CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE ON COMPLETION

    In all of those documents above, some ones c0ck is on the block for recourse down the line if something goes wrong.

    You can find the most up to date and superseded ones here:

    https://www.gov.ie/en/collection/d9729-technical-guidance-documents/

    They are also in local librarys.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,547 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Good post Tefral.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 mustela


    Wow. Thanks so much for such a detailed post.

    For some reason I thought the TGDs was a large hardcopy book / folder broken into different areas of construction that would sit on a shelf in a site office which would then be used to cross reference if someone was unsure of how to comply with Regs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 mustela


    Sorry, but would I be right in saying that the architect & engineer would have everything designed in accordance with the building regs and then it’s up to the contractor / trades people to follow instructions as per drawings to ensure compliance with BCAR?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,396 ✭✭✭Tefral


    Correct.

    Trades take their design and build to that design. The Arch and or Eng have to build to the building Regulations.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 mustela




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,340 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    But somebody has to inspect, to ensure the trades are building it in accordance with the design.
    That’s the engineer/architect, hence sign off.

    The trades or a builder cannot give you a certificate of compliance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Hard copy versions exist of the building regs. But they are not an exhaustive source of every requirements, a lot of the requirements reference other standards.

    Not necessarily. Depends what level of documentation each are engaged to produce.

    There are many stages to design. Most of them are got going to be complete in terms of compliance.

    Planning drawings, D&C contracts etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 mustela


    @Mellor

    If architect and engineer didn’t have everything designed in accordance with Regs, who would be responsible?


    Whats planning drawings and D&C contracts?

    Thanks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Whoever the owner has employed to carry out that work. The if nobody is employed to do it, then the responsibility stays with the owner.


    Planning drawings are drawing for the purposes of planning permission.

    D&C is a design and construct contract.



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  • Subscribers Posts: 42,171 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    its incredibly seldom that the architect and engineer are employed to design "everything" as it would cost the client an absolute fortune. For example see 'bike shed at €336,000 cost"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,881 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    And even when they do or allegedly so: NCHospital at WTFK😎

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



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