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One house causing issues in new estate.

  • 03-09-2024 07:11PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46


    Hi,

    Just looking for advice on the following. We recently purchased in a small esate of new builds. One of the houses is owned by the council and tenants moved in about 6 months ago. Everything started out well enough, all our kids were playing football together etc on the green. Eventually their cousins who live nearby would start to come, they would set up bbqs on the green and generally take over it and leave litter. There was also language being used around our kids that none of us would approve of. Fast forward to last week, theor children undid my garden gate latch and helped themselves to some of kids toys. I went out and firmly, but politely, told them that they shouldn't let themselves in and to ask in future. They seemingly went and told their parents a different story as I was confronted that evening being accused of discrimination and frankly a load of nonsense, it was quite intimidating. Since then, the kids and cousins have been continually coming on our property, sticking their fingers at us when we are in the front room.

    I know we could report it to the council, but it's sort of low scale stuff. My kids don't want to go outside when their kids are there and I'm not sure what to do. Speaking with the parents constructively is not an option, they've made up out mind about us based on complete falsehoods, we were welcoming to them but we wanted some boundaries too. Has anyone dealt with similar? We are quite upset because we love the house and area.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    There are many such stories like this, I'm afraid. By all means, contact the council, but I don't think that they will do anything. The guards can be called if there is property damage or things being stolen, but I wouldn't expect them to do anything beyond giving the family a warning.

    Just this:

    "They seemingly went and told their parents a different story as I was confronted that evening being accused of discrimination and frankly a load of nonsense."

    I think that you're being generous to the parents. To me, it sounds like you and your community were welcoming, tolerant and polite. Sadly, that is seen as weakness to be exploited by some.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭Adhamh


    It sounds simplistic, crass and naïve but get your kids involved in boxing and watch their confidence shoot up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Start looking for a new location.Things will get worse,you will never be comfortable there with these people around you.If you complain,they will escalate the intimidation and make your life a misery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,226 ✭✭✭SteM


    You could try to wait them out to see if they move on in a few years, but from the sounds of it they have taken over and are running the place now.

    Sorry to say this op but things will probably get worse before they get better. Some people just can't be reasoned with I'm afraid. Good luck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,839 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    small obvious thing but up your security like locks on your garden gate and don’t leave any valuables out that they can walk off with



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    It's not. Learning a combat sport is a excellent thing for all young men to do. It's also worthwhile for girls. I used to do both Krav Maga and MMA, and would spar every weekend with friends. It was both fun and useful.

    What needs to be understood is that we're not living in the 1950s. Europe is becoming increasingly unsafe, and the state seems to have no interest in doing much about it. We all need to know how to handle ourselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭byrne249


    Made the mistake of buying in a far more 'mature' estate in this regard. I was constantly giving out to their kids, do not leave anything around for them to take because they believe it's theirs if it's just sitting out. Also the kids themselves will be trying your door handles to your car and house constantly, make sure everything is LOCKED AT ALL TIMES.
    I'd tell them not to be using my driveway as goalposts, sure that just made me more of a target. Unfortunately the stress of it just meant I had to sell up and leave.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭SNNUS


    Its always the free loaders that are the trouble.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    I'm willing to bet the kids of the OP's neighbours are already in the local boxing club. Call it intuition. I doubt they want to spend more time around them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭Tefral


    My brother got Wireless Battery operated Cameras on Amazon for this kind of thing. They have motion detection etc and also the act of having them visable will help!

    I think its worth looking into. Something like this.

    Camera



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,226 ✭✭✭SteM


    Buying in a mature estate is usually a good thing to be honest.

    Dodgy families can move in at any point unfortunately, only way around it is to buy with land around you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,459 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Yes, it would be just awful if the kids got to know each other, and maybe even learned to get on with each other. Yeuchhhh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,966 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,058 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    google a mosquito device , it emits a high pitched hum that can only be heard by kids and teens , now you can only use it on your own property , obviously ,

    It doesn't cause any damage but kids don't like heating it over time , and tend to not hang around your garden , obviously you'd need to turn it off when your kids go out to your front garden,

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭byrne249


    Mature in the very worst sense of the word. I supplanted myself amongst them. I'm making a couple of assumptions based on what the OP said about which types those are



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭RichardAnd




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,483 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    They did get to know each other, and played together.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭NiceFella


    Best move is to de-escalate the situation, but since now you know what you're dealing with, do not take any sh*te from them in future. Kid comes in your garden up to no good, firmly tell them to get out close and lock if need be.

    People recommending self defense etc while useful is just putting your mind into a confrontational state. Your a responsible adult and most of your neighbors are too. Don't sweat these fools, they are likely all bark no bite.

    If you get on with the neighbors you could make a group complaint. They'll all have dealings with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭Norrie Rugger Head


    I used to hear that into my late 30s and, honestly, if a neighbour put one up it would have met with a bad end.

    They penetrate a nearby wall or windows easily enough. A shop in Paul Street put some up to scatter kids and I ended up not eating at restaurants in the area

    They're eating the DOGS!!!

    Donald Trump 2024



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,398 ✭✭✭Stephen_Maturin


    Would you be free for a wallet inspection anytime soon?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    I wouldn't get one of those things. Just because you can't hear a sound doesn't mean that it isn't there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭Norrie Rugger Head


    Loads of adults can hear them into middle age. They also have to consider all the other kids in the area.

    They're eating the DOGS!!!

    Donald Trump 2024



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Baybay


    The old saying that good fences, and maybe gates, make good neighbours might be a thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    A nice little Jack Russel would be the right job to keep those kids away from your property.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,266 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I hear this advice a lot with these situations but it's really not a solution at all.

    The OP just moved into their new house. Which means legal fees, stamp duty and all the rest on top of the house purchase price. The whole thing probably took at least 4 months to go through, a year of stress and 5-8000 euro in fees.

    I doubt they have the will or the disposable cash to just up sticks and do that all again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,459 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    And then find that they have new neighbours in the new place!

    Life isn't a Daily Mail article, specifically designed to stir up hatred among those who don't know better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,109 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    I don't read rags, I'm afraid. However, I think the behaviour of the individuals in question stirs up the hatred, not the pens of of the hacks in the media.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,994 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Get out of there OP...while there is still value in your new house...let some other sucker in there...

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,372 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    It absolutely won’t, it’ll just land the OP with a lawsuit.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    I understand that,but the houses in that estate will possibly lose value in the future,word will get out that there is a problem there.They even have the cousins congregating there,it's on a downward slope.

    Best to get out now while you can.



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