2024 Olympic Games, Paris - Athletics thread

yerwanthere123

With the athletics programme fast approaching, it's time to start the thread!

Here's the schedule:

Here's another look at the timetable which includes the race times of Irish athletes

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lRzMKPmNbYKwGgVcsTW04DW2DpcFRtsNucv_l5kCIVY/edit?gid=1827393206#gid=1827393206

Team Ireland are a must-follow for the games as they post much good content, particularly a daily timetable for Irish athletes and their race times.

Let's Run is another great resource for all athletics related content, even if the forums are a bit of a wild west!

Anything else that might be handy for me to post in the OP please let me know :)

Should be a cracking games, Mona McSharry's already after getting us off to a great start so hopefully this'll continue on the track and field!

Ceepo

This morning's men's triathlon postponed until tomorrow, now due to take place after the women's event.

The water quality has been a known issue for the past few weeks. There was talks of just having a Duathlon instead but not decision was made until the earyhours of this morning. Tbh I'm not holding out much hope that the swim will take place at all. It could well be 2 Duathlons.

ariana`

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122443415#Comment_122443415

That will also effect the OWS events as well presumably. Daniel Wiffen is entered in the 10k OWS though it wouldn't be his main event. Delighted to see Mona medal and kick off Ireland's medals, hopefully another one tonight. Can't wait for T&F.

Ceepo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122443517#Comment_122443517

It least the Duathlon is a plan B of sorts for the triathlon if the water quality doesn't pick up. I'm not sure what they're going to do for OW 10k.

Hamachi

Anybody heard any rumours about line-up for the mixed 4x400m heats on Friday? I'm presuming it's O'Donnell > Becker > Barr > Mawdsley.

Do people think they'll make the final with that squad? Will Adeleke run if they make the final?

yerwanthere123

Is anyone going to Paris, or in Paris already? I'm travelling on Friday for six nights, will get to see two days of tennis (six of ten medal matches!) and will be in the Stade De France on the Monday to Wednesday for the athletics. My ticket categories for athletics are primarily B and C so hopefully I'll still have a somewhat decent view, but if not I guess I'll still have a good experience. Getting close now!

Ceepo

Go on Wiffen ya good thing.

What a tactical master class from him.

I believe the back plan for the 10k swim is to hold it in the rowing centre

Ceepo

Edrick Floreal was interviewed yesterday on Newstalk Lunchtime live,(probably get it on listen back) . He said that no decision has been made regarding "which" rely she will run. Seemed to say that she will have a input into the decision, but it was made yet. He didn't say if she would run the heats though.

yerwanthere123

Sifan Hassan plans to reveal what events she'll be running tomorrow. She's shown no form at all on the track this year so the sensible thing would be to stick to the marathon, or perhaps an unusual 5k/marathon double. Would be insanity to consider anything more given how she's been running all year.

Speak Now

Hassan no form will certainly be interesting.

Cosmo Kramer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122446632#Comment_122446632

There's pretty much zero chance of Rhasidat running either relay heat. Question is whether she'll run the mixed final if we're in it and we may not find out until very close to the time.

Hold My Hand

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122446610#Comment_122446610

Wiffen said he’d only swim if it’s in the Seine. Looking at the triathlon swim this morning, it’s very challenging. No better man though

Ceepo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122448102#Comment_122448102

Yeah I know that there is no chance of her running the heats, I just thought it was interesting that he was saying she had the input into which relays she'd run. Seemed to say if it wasn't the Olympics then he would be making the decision for her

fairisfair2024

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122448137#Comment_122448137

Do you know what the course is like or what the viewing experience looked like? I have tickets for the 10km swim there but just wondering how much/how little of the athletes I will see. Are they going up and back 500m lengths or what do you know?

yerwanthere123

Hassan announces on Instagram she's running another triple, including the 5000m, 10000m and the marathon. It's still far too much, but at the very least she's not crazy enough to throw in the 1500 too.

Running the 10,000 and marathon essentially back to back will be tough, but maybe if the 5000 goes badly she can drop the 10000.

Ceepo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122448137#Comment_122448137

I'm not sure what Wiffen experience of open water swimming is, and hopefully he will do well. I know from personally experienced OW is a vastly different beast the pool swimming. There's many more variables to take into consideration such as drafting, sighting your line, there's no black line to follow 🤣, current etc. The ability to be able to read the current is huge, a 1/2m left or right of you could be make a huge difference especially in a river swm where you have both go with and against the current.

yerwanthere123

Have read rumours of Ciara Mageean having some form of injury in Paris. Have also read about an apparent fall out with a coach. I stress I only read this in an athletics WhatsApp group I'm a part of, so as of now it's just a rumour with zero proof, but if true it might explain her recent below par results. Hope it's bullshit though.

Ceepo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122448855#Comment_122448855

I heard a few week ago that there was a fall out with her coach.

ariana`

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122448855#Comment_122448855

Oh no. I found myself thinking of her last night when amhran na bhfiann was playing for Daniel Wiffen. I'm so glad she got to experience it at the Euros. There's just been a niggling doubt for a while now with her recent performances. Hopefully all wrong though, she's such a super star, you'd love to see her finish on a high.

Hamachi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122448933#Comment_122448933

Surely that can’t be true? She has always spoken so highly of her training setup in NB Manchester and her great relationship with Helen Clitheroe.

If there’s any truth to this, it’s borderline catastrophic going into the Olympics.

dolldot2

Oh no Ciara has an injury to be fair she has being fairly quiet on social media most athletes are though … and that would be awful if her and coach relationship has being fractured especially given this will be her last olympics..

Cannot see Rhasidat doing mixed relay she likely solely focus on the individual 400m

dee75

Going on 7th until 11th. Have tickets for athletics on Thursday 8th (morning and evening sessions) and Saturday 10th (evening). So, so excited.

Ceepo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122449699#Comment_122449699

Honestly I don't know if there's any truth in it. That's what I heard about 2 weeks ago. I was talking to the person who told me earlier on this evening if he had any more info or updates, but he didn't hear anything more about it

Fr D Maugire

I fear after the highs of Rome, I think expectations are over inflated. I will give my 2 cents on our "possible" medal events.

1500: Really hope Mageean returns to form, otherwise she might struggle to even make the final. Kipyegon is the super favourite obviously, but Jess Hull has entered a new statosphere this year and then there is the Ethiopians, Laura Muir and a few others. Even if Mageean is on form,I think a medal might be an uphill battle for her, unless it is a tactical battle. Sarah Healy needs fast races to stretch things so really up in the air if she makes it to the final. Sophie O'Sullivan has looked well off the level required all year so might be more for the experience this time around.

400: Rhasidat definitely a contender, but Nickisha Pryce and her "amazing" improvement has really shook things up. Paulino was the favourite, but now I think it's Pryce unless her college season catches up with her. Kaczmarek obviously the other medal contender and I really think Rhasidat needs to improve by .20/.30 to even get a medal. If the preparation has been good and she peaks, she has the potential to win it, but that might require a .50 improvement. Not out of the question when you look at the improvements of Pryce, Kaczmarek, Klaver. Also Sada Williams always runs well at majors and is a dark-horse having 2 World Bronze. Mawdsley making the semi-finals would be a good result for her, but hard to see Becker go beyond round 1. Amazing that we have the full compliment in both 400/1500m. Fantastic to see

Mixed Relays: Hard to call as very dependent on what teams other countries put out. I have said all along that I don't see Rhasidat doing the mixed, even if Ireland do make the final. The US even with a 2nd string should win, but that might depend on if the Dutch have Bol/Klaver on their team. They underperformed big time at the Europeans. The Jamacians and Brits would be also ahead of us if they put out strong teams, but I dont see that happening. Poland, Belgium, Canada, Ireland, even Italy are all medal possibilities, but totally determined by the strengths of the respective teams. We can medal if other teams are weakened, but so many ifs.

Womens Relay: Can make the final even without Adeleke if they run to top form, but i think if the Brits, Jamaicans, Dutch all have full teams, hard to see Ireland getting a medal, even with Adeleke . Canada have a pretty solid if under-rated team as well. Can also see the Poles being much better than they were at the Euros.

ledwithhedwith

Beautiful out for him, isn’t in any way tipped for an open water medal

yerwanthere123

Looks like it's confirmed now; Adeleke not running the mixed relay this weekend

https://m.independent.ie/sport/olympics/rhasidat-adeleke-likely-to-miss-irish-mixed-relay-teams-bid-for-olympic-medal-to-focus-on-400m-quest/a1880908355.html

Disappointing, but not surprising. Can't blame her really, wants to give herself the best possible chance and nothing wrong with that.

Hamachi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122450986#Comment_122450986

Agree with most of the above.

Personally, I have a very bad feeling about Ciara Mageean. She just hasn’t looked right since the Europeans. As you say, in a fast semi-final, Sarah Healy could do well. I wouldn’t be shocked to see her run a 3.56 and make the final.

The women’s 400m is hard to call. Paulino and Kaczmarek are both super consistent, rarely running bad races. It’s nailed on, both will be near or on the podium. Pryce will medal too if she runs to her potential. That London DL run scared me. She looked phenomenal. For me, the wild card is Eid Naser. What version of her will turn up? If it’s the low 48 version, it’s lights out. Rhasidat Adeleke will be top 5 for sure. In what position, it’s so hard to predict.

I’m more pessimistic than you on the relays. I believe we may scrape into the final of the mixed 4x400m. We have zero shot at a medal without Adeleke. To even make the final, Mawdsley needs to be within 5 meters of the top 3. We’ll do well to be top 6 in the final, assuming we make it. I’m also calling it that we don’t make the women’s 4x400m final without Adeleke. This is where our lack of depth comes back to bite us. Mawdsley is amazing, Becker and Healy are very solid. However, our next best runner Lauren Cadden is only capable of a low 52 leg at best. We’re a 3.24 / 3.25 team without Adeleke. I think it will take a 3.23 to make the final.

Final word on the mixed relay. Bol and Klaver will both run it for the Netherlands. In fact, I could see Bol doing both rounds to ensure they make the final. I’m very disappointed Adeleke won’t run the final, conditional on them qualifying, but I understand why. She’ll have her hands full with the individual.

Tombo2001

I think recent evidence suggests Mageean not going well, it would be more than a feeling. She got injured at Christmas, didnt run in Spring. Even at the Europeans, she didnt need to run super quick times.

It is what it is; the Olympics comes around once every four years, unfortunately that will not coincide with performance peaks for every athlete. C'est la vie.

She is an absolute legend no matter what happens.

Noting that Sifan has opted out of 1500m, obviously good for Ciara if she is going well.

Lets not forget also that Sarah Healy is flying it.

Tombo2001

https://www.irishnews.com/news/northern-ireland/portaferry-celebrates-ciara-mageean-as-she-heads-to-paris-olympics-UNT4KN6SJ5GTBLMGAQM7EZD2UE/

On the hand, quietly confident….

orangerhyme

Are "B finals" in rowing essentially meaningless?

Tombo2001

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122451635#Comment_122451635

this is the athletics thread

Krusty_Clown

Anyone up for the Letsrun prediction contest? We still have a Boards.ie group from a few years back (where I think I came last). Just Select the Boards.ie club when you login/register. It's free and you can make your picks up until the event kicks off.

https://www.letsrun.com/news/2024/07/200024-paris-track-trials-prediction-contest/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=paris-contest

walshb

Andrew up shortly

hawkwing

Topic was nearly out at the first height with an ankle injury but got the 3rd attempt.

yerwanthere123

Coscoran finished last in his heat 😐 Has he been injured/out of form? I know he's not a medal contender but I'd have thought he'd make the SF's comfortably. I know he's got the repechage but it's not looking good.

diego_b

Only thing I thought there is that with the new repechage format did he shut it down towards then end of lap when he was well out of contention so try conserve something for the repechage. No advantage to finishing 7th or last when it's top 6 to qualify.

Dubh Geannain

I think Doyle looked the best out of the 3 Irish runners despite not qualifying although McCann's time was quicker. McCann was probably the unluckiest as it's even more difficult to make a move off a quick pace.

None of the 3 of them positioned themselves too well and Doyle was obstructed just going into the last 200 but I'm not sure he'd have caught a first 6 position.

Times FWIW: Doyle: 3:37.82, McCann 3:35.73, Coscoran 3:42.07 (hopefully saving energy)

Poor Stewy McSweyn got run out after leading too.

Nuttzz

That casual start by Ingebrigtsen really was something else.

walshb

Jody way off the pace here

secman

Mixed relay 4 x 400 missed out.

Dubh Geannain

Disappointing but not surprising. They've had some good high points this year nonetheless.

Larbre34

Making an Olympic Semi without their biggest gun is no shame.

As a team they can be proud of their season's work. Although things will feel pretty hollow for Tom Barr now, missing out as he did on qualifying standard over the jumps.

DJIMI TRARORE

How does the reprecage work and is it new to the Olympics

Fr D Maugire

Sonia saying we need to look at how 6 European teams finished ahead of us. It is not difficult, not having Adeleke is at least a 2 second drop, which would have qualified us comfortably, plus a few European teams had better groups here than Rome.

Always said Adeleke was never running the mixed and it is the correct decision. The reality is not a single individual medal contender ran the heats, we just dont have the depth to replace Adeleke

Notmything

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122457928#Comment_122457928

Replaces the fastest non qualifiers system that used to be in place.

Supposed to be fairer and gives competitors 2 races.

CPTM

I was sure I read somewhere that Mageann was racing in the 800m. Was she ever scheduled to run it, or what happened there? Sorry I've been googling and can't find any reference to it.

Hamachi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122457913#Comment_122457913

They all ran fairly well. It’s just the level elevates yet again at the Olympics.

We were out of the hunt after the first two legs. Barr and Mawdsley both ran good legs. Had Adeleke been on two, we would have qualified easily. Shame, but what can you do.

One upside is that Mawdsley won’t be worn out going into the individual 400m. She should be targeting the semis and hopefully a new PB.

rovers_runner

That was some 10k, unreal pace from the gun.

Ethiopian lads made a rod for their own back and only one managed to last it by mugging the Canadian lad.

Brilliant run from Fisher who didn't panic and stuck it out at an even pace for as long as possible, really timed his finish well.

Great to get back to an even field after the Salazar years.

Sandwell

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122458286#Comment_122458286

Should also be mentioned that Cheptegui ran a superbly controlled race. He basically did what he wanted and wound it up exactly when it suited. He's a legend.

As for the 'even field' idea, cop on. None of us know what these guys are taking. We watch elite sport with blinkers on. The current crop could be dirtier than Salazar's crew for all we know.

rovers_runner

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122458520#Comment_122458520

They could be, don't doubt it. But it's a better watch when they are all on the same "thing" or not as the case may be.

yerwanthere123

Caught up with the days action here in my hotel room is Paris. What a brilliant 10k! I think it's the first time I've ever seen one uninterrupted from start to finish and it was utterly absorbing from the outset.

Delighted for both Aregawi and Grant Fisher! Aregawi's ran brilliant times the last couple of years but never got it right when it mattered most. Great for Grant Fisher to get his moment too after agonisingly coming 4th in Eugene.

Disappointing the relay team couldn't make it, but we obviously hadn't a hope without Adeleke.