Ireland’s Olympics boxers Paris 2024

walshb

Be good to have thread for our boxing team

Kicks off at 16:20 Irish time today with Dean Clancy at 63.5 kgs vs a boxer from Jordan

FB page for IABA is good to follow to keep up to date on draw

Morrison J

Seems the draw has been kind to us for the most part. What do we think are realistic expectations? Seeing some big numbers being thrown about (5/6 medals) and while achievable i'm kind of struggling to see where they come from.

Difficult to see who in the mens side medals. I think Gallagher and Marley prob our biggest chances but still will likely need to win as underdogs to medal. Aidan Walsh's draw looks very tricky.

Women's side looks much more favourable. Harrington and O'Rourke really should medal and there's a few others who should give it a right go. I'm going to say Grainne Walsh medals as an outsider.

3 medals total I reckon which would still be a very good haul.

walshb

Kellie, Michaela Walsh and O’Rourke female side good chances, but only Gallagher men’s side I think

Dick phelan

Damn Clancy gone would have thought he'd win that. Close fight, thought he might have gotten it with the point deduction.

Big Ears

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122433716#Comment_122433716

He clearly lost the first, but I thought he nicked the second and won the 3rd. With the point off it was enough for me, but he let it be too close really.

Either way the winner was likely to be comfortably beaten in the next round.

Eoinbmw

He got bullied in there!

Think the occasion got to him!

walshb

Not physically strong enough and was repeatedly getting hit with jabs from a shorter lad. Range wasn’t great either. Lot a judges scoring can come down to aggression. And all the aggression was with opponent

walshb

Tomorrow we have Aidan Walsh 10:20 and Grainne Walsh 16:20 and Jack Marley 19:30

Morrison J

Aidan Walsh out. Always gonna be tricky being drawn against a Frenchman in front of that crowd but seemed to really take his foot off the gas in the 3rd after a decent start. Shame.

Big Ears

Aidan Walsh out now aswell.

Handily won the first, and probably won the 2nd clear enough in normal circumstances, but when you're fighting a home fighter "clear enough" just isn't enough.

Walsh should have known that and done more to make sure he got that round (he lost it 4-1). He got dominated then in the last, hurt with a hook and held on consistently and received a warning for it.

Perhaps just the couple of fights I've watched from our fighters, but the judges do seem to be favouring aggression, even if it's ineffective.

walshb

When a referee has to tell you to engage twice you should be kicked out..always been too negative.

walshb

Hungarian good. I thought she won rd 1 well. 3-2

Grainne needs to be sharper

walshb

Hungarian too sharp.

Hugh Cahill awful analyst

Grainne needs big rd 3

bartkingcole

was that wrestling or boxing?

Morrison J

Stinking start for our boxers. Just seem to be getting too easily outworked. Really thought Grainne could have a run in her.

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walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122437113#Comment_122437113

Lot messy tangling, but when it was pure boxing, Hungarian sharper and cleaner

bartkingcole

let’s see how the others go but hard to see many medals. Is KH a real prospect or well beyond her best?

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122437244#Comment_122437244

She’s not well beyond her best. Her style exact same and sharp-enough. She could get gold or lose in her first bout. Depends on her opponents and her own performances

walshb

good fight here

secman

Definitely the aggressor, don't think the Pole fancies it

walshb

Marley went out and earned that win.

Dick phelan

GB having a stinker with their boxing as well. Sounds like one of their female fighters was very hard done by though.

walshb

Julio Cesar La Cruz beaten today as well. Quest for 3rd gold finished. One out of Marley’s way!!!

Rows Grower

Jack Marley fought a great fight there against a very difficult opponent.

He looks small for a heavyweight but I wouldn't like to be on the receiving end of those haymakers he throws. There's only one gear with him and that's fast forward but he's cunning and he's well able to take a belt as well.

He reminds me of a former Olympian Kieran Joyce, raw natural talent.

bartkingcole

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122437850#Comment_122437850

seemed to be an unexpected outcome.

walshb

Kellie Harrington 60 kgs premlin at 14:45 today

Diddley Squat

Has anybody found a stream that shows the entire boxing ….. not just the occasional fight ?

Dick phelan

Thought the GB Super HW was fairly hard done. Thought he definitely should have gotten the win

walshb

Jennifer Lehane 11:35 vs. China @ 54 kgs

Morrison J

Bit of a dark horse Lehane I think. Hopefully makes this a closer fighter than the bookies odds suggest.

Donald Trump

Is there somewhere to watch it (legal stream I mean of course)

thesandeman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122444214#Comment_122444214

Too late now but I think all the fights are on RTE 2.

How did she do? I didn't hear it mentioned on the radio.

Donald Trump

Answering my own question

https://www.rte.ie/player/onnow/66546216064

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122444238#Comment_122444238

She's losing….no chance here….

Morrison J

Chang just a level above unfortunately.

Donald Trump

Seems a bit out of her depth against the Chinese girl. I only saw R3. Chinese girl is sharp.

The few clips I've seen from the boxing seems like there is a lot more of hands down style these days. Looks a bit sloppy. Referring to the Chinese girl

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122444250#Comment_122444250

Too sharp and too strong.

Clear win. We just lack power and strength. Very weak

Tip tap tip tap. Neat lil boxer, but you need that bit strength and bit power/zip

Morrison J

Tomorrow feels fairly make or break for our chances to have a good games. Gallagher and O'Rourke get their campaigns underway and Kellie fights for a medal.

thebaz

When in Marleys next fight ?

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122444414#Comment_122444414

Thursday at 21:00 QF medal bout vs. Tajikistan

newhouse87

I know lot of punching power you are born with but why do our boxers seem so weak, is it wrong s&c we doing?

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122445407#Comment_122445407

No.

We just don’t have heavy handed boxers a lot of the time. Very little to do with training or technique. We just don’t seem to produce boxers who have effortless power, or even decent power

newhouse87

Mcgregor in mma seemed be only one with power we have produced in combat sports. Part reason he is what he is. Fans love kos.

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122445542#Comment_122445542

Yes, he has heavy hands alright. Forgetting even what fans like, having ok-decent power is amost always needed to get to the top. You have to be able to stun, hurt and discourage your opponent. It's all well and good (with little power) when meeting very weak opposition who can't hurt you, but when you step up and you have someone strong, who can punch clean and hard, you need to be able to get their respect.

Dean Clancy lost the other day to a very basic opponent, who won because Dean couldn't at all hurt him, discourage him, or stop him pressing forward. Dean's very weak power was a factor in that loss

Morrison J

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122445542#Comment_122445542

Andy Lee

Dick phelan

Ye Andy Lee probably the biggest one punch KO fighter we've had. His hook was lethal. Frampton had decent power at SBW as well. But generally ye we aren't power punchers. Nobody who's out so far was someone I thought would medal. I'm hoping Harrington, Rourke and maybe one more. 3 medals would be good going imo.

walshb

Tomorrow Jude Gallagher 57 Kgs 14:30 last 16 and Kellie 16:55 QF 60 kgs

megadodge

No country produces big punchers on a regular basis.

Big punchers are rare!

But when you have 350 million Americans the mathematical probability is they will produce more big punchers than Ireland's 6 million.

Not very hard to figure out really.

Rows Grower

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122445507#Comment_122445507

You need to do a bit of homework on the professional records of young and upcoming Callum Walsh, Tommy Hyde and an honourable mention to Brandon McCarthy. That's three young fellas off the top of my head that know what it's like to KO an opponent.

Plenty of Irish boxers were well known and feared for their power.

walshb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122446993#Comment_122446993

Yes, we produce punchers here and there. But remember, sometimes opposition needs to be considered, as well as manner of victory

As mega said, real punchers are rare, and we have a small pool here…

I have been following our amateurs years. Power punchers is not something I’d say about us as regards what we produce.

Rows Grower

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122447001#Comment_122447001

And where do you think the three lads learned their trade?

They are products of the Irish amateur scene.