Ireland's Preparedness

brianmax88

If Ireland was invaded in the morning, how prepared are we logistically? Have we enough rifles for every soldier? Have we enough for the RDF? Have we enough to hand out to civilians like they did in Ukraine, as our army is so small? How much ammunition do we have? Do we have a stockpile? Does our government/ generals have a contingency plan?

monkeybutter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058360329/irelands-preparedness

No one is prepared, it's a giant myth about war

Hilarious

It takes years l, repeat years to build up to that level of preparedness

The EU and the US barely have the stockpiles to fight a limited war in the ukraine

Same with Russia

Look at how long it took the ussr and the states to ratchet up war supply during ww2

Look how much they then decommissioned after, like it's nuts

This thread will attract all the dumbest people on here, the kinds who who turn their bellies up to aggressors to be tickled

beachhead

None at all.Talk about open borders haha

monkeybutter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122398168#Comment_122398168

The Irish sea and Atlantic make spectacular borders

beachhead

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122398175#Comment_122398175

And wide open to all comers.NK Kim might go for a spin around the coast eventually

monkeybutter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122398452#Comment_122398452

North Korea Kim?

I mean on a pleasure cruise up the Shannon maybe

You knocked it out of the park

RavenP

AFAIK the DF have no shortage of weaponry. There is more than enough for the PDF and RDF and then some. There is appropriate quantities of ammo, although whether a few months supply or just a few weeks is unknown. There is also some artillery, dozens of 105mm howitzers and dozens of 120mm mortars, with again quite a bit of ammo. Also older stuff in stores, reserve or for ceremonial uses but capable of use of ammo is there in quantity. Below that there are loads of 60mm mortars and ammo, lots of Carl Gustavs and the AT4 missiles. There are thousands of general purpose machine guns. There are some (probably low hundreds) of javelin anti-tank missiles and some RBS-70 AA missiles, probably a similar number. All in all there is actually quite a bit of land fighting weaponry there.

RavenP

The real problem is Ireland has only ever thought about land warfare…

CreadanLady

That stuff was all bought to fight the British and or the IRA/Loyalists if they threatened the republic. Or possibly even to covertly supply the provos to support their campaign in the North.

That's why it is all basic small arms.

monkeybutter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122398672#Comment_122398672

Space lasers is what we need, good thinking

RavenP

actually a lot of what I have mentioned the Steyer Aug rifles, the AT4s, the Javelins, most of the RBS 70s has been purchased since the IRA ceasefire. Other stuff which was in service from the 80s, like the 105mm field guns, are hardly small arms. I think 1969 was a wake up call to the government, you are right there, but it needs another wake up. And I do not think the DF were ever seriously going to covertly or otherwise assist the provos.

Larbre34

Sigh.

highpitcheric

The question is meaningless without naming an opponent and giving a context.

Of all the countries on earth precious few have the means to sail a military here.

For * some * of those who can, we can probably never be prepared enough so theres little point in preparing extra for a foregone conclusion .

Then theres the political context.

Who are our allies, who are their allies.

Would our allies be willing to threaten to put holes in the invaders ships. From above or below.

Or maybe just quickly give us the means to do so for ourselves. From our coast.

100 conditions to consider before we can get to an exact question about who is possibly arriving where.

Personally I dont believe theres much of a reason to massively ramp up spending, beyond some of our obvious lacking areas.

Theres also not much to gain from invading us. Its hard to get here for most. And in the case of a defensive fight, I think Ireland gets underestimated. If its not US, UK or France then theyre not scoring the walkover that so many assume. We only have to fight an expeditionary force, which will be far from home.

RavenP

A lot of truth there. In any conceivable scenario Ireland would only be attacked in the context of a big war, where the attacker would probably be stretched on several fronts. That said in the same way that God helps those who helps themselves, our “allies” might not be that happy to help assist us if we had been seen to be completely negligent. We need to do more, probably double our financial commitment.