2024 Patio cost - thoughts

Naos

Hello all,

Looking to get a confirmation if this is good value or not - I trust the lads doing it (Landscaping crew).

35m2 patio, shape looks like the below (assuming that it doesn't come out arseways):

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Regular patio slabs, e35 per m2 type.

I've already dug it out and laid some hardcore (previous patio) but it will need additional hardcore, sand etc.
It will need two x recess cover and also drainge (either sunakway or drain we can decide on the day).

Price includes all material/labour - 3,000e all in.

Thanks!

Explosive_Cornflake

I'd say it's okay if it was a concrete bed.

May be okay if it's not a concrete if that includes all the materials, as you have €1225 of slabs there, other bits I can see it hitting 2k, so €1000 for labour wouldn't shock me.

Naos

Thanks for the response!

It will be a hardcore bed, whacked, with sand on top. I didn't want pure concrete as that would create drainge issues so would like a bit of soakthrough.

Yes the 3k is everything (materials + labour).

standardg60

Nothing wrong with that price.

However I would strongly advise a concrete bed. Very little will drain through the patio itself, if there's a good depth of hardcore then any run off can be directed to percolate through that at the edge. Otherwise ACO drain connected to a gutter.

Calahonda52

from your post: July 5th sunakaway😎

Naos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122311394#Comment_122311394

Ya wha :D

Naos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122311348#Comment_122311348

Thanks. Would the concrete base cost a lot more? Why wouldnt the whacked hardcore suffice?

Explosive_Cornflake

I don't think you can beat a concrete base, but it's way more labor, so I'd expect the price to be a fair bit higher.

Naos

Thanks Explosive. Yeah it will be more labour, but I think I'll just shoot for the hardcore as it is.

It'll be okay, I hope :D Patios have been laid on hardcore and sand for aeons!

Padre_Pio

Ants would be the only issue, I would choose concrete for that alone.

Naos

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122320729#Comment_122320729

Interesting, never heard of that could you elaborate? Thanks.

Traditionally, are patios laid on concrete? Up to now I've only heard of hardcore/sand.

Padre_Pio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122320731#Comment_122320731

Not much to elaborate. Ants can build nests easy in sand and hardcore, so we always had ants in the house every summer in my last rented house and they came up between the footpath and the patio.

I would only use concrete now, but it depends where you are in the country I suppose.

standardg60

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122320731#Comment_122320731

Even if laying dry sand wouldn't be used nowadays, paving grit is far more stable.

Ants will nest in sand and excavate a warren of tunnels.