Are the Cork Garlic Footballers the most unloved sports team in the world

spursfan111

there’s almost an apathy towards football in Cork. I’ve lived there for a few years and the locals generally watch soccer or hurling….tough lines for these boys who are training from November….it’s kind of a unique situation is it not??? Or would the Dublin hurlers be in a similar boat?

longrunn

Sure football isn't as popular as hurling or soccer across much of Cork but I think it still has a decent following, especially the further west you go.

Tipp1991

I'd imagine the footballers in Tipp or hurlers in Kerry would come pretty close

tom1ie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058356984/are-the-cork-garlic-footballers-the-most-unloved-sports-team-in-the-world

I’d say they stink.

endacl

😂.

spursfan111

yeah but those counties are playing in the SpongeBob SquarePants cup and stuff cork footballers are actually half decent

spursfan111

yeah but those counties are playing in the SpongeBob SquarePants cup and stuff cork footballers are actually half decent

SuperBowserWorld

I like Garlic

Sultan of Bling

A team of vampires wouldn't lay a glove on them.

Insect Overlord

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122293990#Comment_122293990

Wouldn't lay a clove on them 😉

keeponhurling

We talk about long suffering Mayo fans, but Cork are a real team that every good performance is followed by a bad one

Seadin

They are shite full stop. Couldn't win All Irelands when they had decent teams.

PeggyShippen

Yeah the Cork public especially Cork city and east Cork wouldn't follow the Gaelic much. It's a traditional thing of following sports that don't bore you to death like the Football can. Limerick don't follow Gaelic either. There's not one school in Limerick city that play gaelic football...all rugby and hurling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122303082#Comment_122303082

Silly comment. Don’t forget which of Gaelic football and hurling is the minority sport. Don’t forget which of the two All Ireland finals pulls higher viewership figures every year.

CBS Sexton St & Mungret play football, Crescent College too. Might be others but those three definitely do.

No GAA club in Limerick that shares a border with county Kerry plays hurling. Bit like Clare, the west extremes of the county are more interested in football.

PeggyShippen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122303265#Comment_122303265

Schools division z id say. Sexton street is an association football school and Crescent is a rugby and hockey school. Mungret is open ...2 years? My comments are fairly accurate I think . People forget there's huge swathes of Munster with no Gaelic football. East Clare and north Tipp .. east Waterford...Waterford, Limerick cities...ect.

sportsfan90

Support for the county football team is in the minority for sure compared to the hurlers, but there is still a lot of interest in football in the county. It shouldn't be forgotten that there's more clubs in the county that play football than play hurling, although admittedly some clubs only give it lip-service. And even if the football county team do underachieve they still generally pop up with an All-Ireland every 20 years or so which many other counties would bite your hand off for.

The loss of the dual player seems to have affected Cork footballers more than most teams. I'm not sure about the very early wins in the early 1900s, but every other football All-Ireland they've won have had dual players. Teddy Mc, Ray Cummins, JBM, Eoin Cadogan, Aidan Walsh, Denis Coughlan, Jack Lynch, Brian Murphy, Denis Walsh off the top of my head. There's been a good few hurlers in the last 25 years including on the current team who would have been as good if not better at football but chose to play hurling. The old straight knock-out system with less matches seemed to have suited Cork footballers as players were able to play both codes. A county as big as Cork should still be able to compete with a losing couple of players to a different code however but they don't seem to be able to do it currently.

Quitelife

Cork footballers have a decent amount of fans compared to the footballers of Limerick, Tipperary or Waterford where interest in Gaelic football is at an all time low .

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122303745#Comment_122303745

Your comments literally aren’t accurate. You said not one school in Limerick City plays Gaelic Football. I know of at least three that do (I work in one of them who played the other two in the year gone by, there probably are more but I’d have to start googling for definitive answers)

Plus you said people don’t watch football because it bores them to death. That’s quite the self burn coming from someone who is a hurling supporter when the stats show national viewership for Gaelic football is actually higher than hurling.

TheSunIsShining

I like garlic bread. Especially with lasagne. Not sure I'd chance a garlic football though.

LetticebCivil

Waterford v Longford had 70 people in attendance in the last group game of the Tailteann Cup. So no would be the answer.

TheSunIsShining

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122304005#Comment_122304005

Does the 70 include the 30 players???

LetticebCivil

No the commentators on Radio counted the people 😀

PeggyShippen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122303968#Comment_122303968

You named 3 schools that throw together a gaelic football team in the city.. none near an 'A' competition I'm sure. There's more schools in Limerick city playing hockey than gaelic and playing it to a higher standard.

The only one burnt is yourself if you think that because more people in Ireland watch Gaelic that it's a better sport than hurling. Hurling can't be played on bad land traditionally which rules out most of the west and half the north..

I took mygood friend to his first hurling match this year . Cork v Clare . He's from Staffordshire..loved the game..said he was 'afraid it was going to be like the 'other' Irish sport'... I said 'relax don't mind that basketball in a field without a tackle.'

Corcaigh84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122307375#Comment_122307375

I'm stealing that one 😆

TheSunIsShining

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122307375#Comment_122307375

What did your friend think about the massive stench of garlic...?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122307375#Comment_122307375

For someone as prone to posting as much scutter and inaccuracies as you do you seriously need to learn how to deal with people pulling you up on said scutter/innacuracies. Muted.

PeggyShippen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122309372#Comment_122309372

I always take your advice onboard. I ll endeavor to learn and grow .

You're prone to bouts of verbal diarrhoea yourself . You too need to grow and start by giving up that auld gaelic football. We've 2 good field sports in Ireland. Rugby and Hurling and they cover any good young fellas sporting needs.

Pogue eile

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122293899#Comment_122293899

Tipperary won a Munster final 4 years ago, Cork haven't won one in 12 years. Tipp got to an All Ireland semi final recently as well. Cork have won 7 AI's in total compared to Tipp's 4. Hardly a huge disparity as you have tried to paint.

Pogue eile

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122303745#Comment_122303745

Plenty of football in North Tipp, stop talking about things you have no clue about. Or to put it simply, stop talking!

PeggyShippen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122310098#Comment_122310098

That's bullying and misogynistic 😔. Telling people to stop posting. Have you not seen Natasha on the news. We aren't standing for it anymore.

Mad about baa baas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122310098#Comment_122310098

Not much point arguing about any gaa code with someone from a county ending in shire ..who claims to be from other hurling strongholds depending on the day/mood that takes them

Dickie10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122303873#Comment_122303873

…and Brian Corcoran was on the 1993 team beaten by only 3 points by Derry in final and Sean Og Ohailpin on the 1999 football team also only beaten by 3 points by Meath in all ireland final

randd1

Kilkenny footballers? Or as we call them in Kilkenny, the lads doing the fitness work for the hurling.

At least Cork have some sort of skin in the football game.

BaywatchHQ

I've seen the Cork football team play twice at Croke Park and never saw many Cork fans there.

Straight Talker

Tipperary's most recent senior all Ireland in football was in 1920. We have nowhere near the amount of all Irelands we should have in football, but we have competed at the top table for way longer than Tipperary.

Still though Tipp to be fair are the third most successful county in Munster in regards to Munster titles. Clare, Waterford and Limerick only have four Munster titles between the three of them!

TheSunIsShining

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122316471#Comment_122316471

Everyone forgets too that Cork have lost more All Ireland Finals than Mayo. In fact, the only team to lose more than Cork is Kerry - so Cork have traditionally had a poor return once they get out of Munster ...

Straight Talker

Yes our Munster to All Ireland conversion ratio is very poor.

Unlike poor Mayo though at least we can pull the occasional all Ireland out of the bag every now and again!

Straight Talker

Cork football just suffers so badly from having Kerry as neighbours, and the hurlers irrespective of how good and bad they're going are always the glamour team in Cork.

Even when we won that all Ireland in 2010 i think it was only lukewarmly accepted in certain quarters in Cork. Some people felt that it wasn't the same because we didn't beat Kerry.

But the hurlers didn't beat Kilkenny to win the 1984, 1986, 1990 and 2005 all Irelands and that rightfully wasn't seen as an issue. They were and still are seen as cherished all Ireland wins.

Post 2012 we've pulled off the odd decent result to give you some hope, but it's never built on. When Cork football seems to be going one step forwards, it then proceeds to go five steps backwards again!

You look at a county like Galway who traditionally like Cork are contenders in both codes, yet in Galway there isn't the same discrepancy in terms of support of both county teams that there is in Cork.

Galway to me seem to be pretty equal in terms of support and attendances in both senior codes.

Xander10

Would Garlic beat Mayo?

The Golden Miller

I remember Meath played Cork in an All-Ireland semi circa 09, and the Cork turnout was brutal. I know Cork is divided into football and hurling area's, but those who play football are more likely to go watch the hurlers, if it's a choice of travelling. It's costly, and if your going to pick one weekend to go to Dublin, it's to watch the hurlers, whether you play football or hurling in Cork

So it's understandable the distance, and their locally rivalries generally being with hurling counties, other than the obvious huge rivalry with Kerry in football. I think the whole county of Cork is also just so invested in the hurlers ending their drought at this stage, that's the priority.

At the end of the day, lots of sports are popular in Cork, but it's ultimately a hurling county, and Irelands most successful one. When it comes down to it, hurling will always win out there

TheSunIsShining

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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122320014#Comment_122320014

I'd say a lot of Kilkenny folk would argue fairly strongly at you saying Cork is the most successful hurling county. But I'd argue that there is no argument about Cork being the most successful GAA county. By a long way....

gym_imposter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122318592#Comment_122318592

It's regional in Galway, likes of Tuam wouldn't know what a hurl was while Portumna would have little care for the fortunes of the football team

Add to that, Galway aren't called the tribesmen for nothing, the inherent clannishness of Galway folk means disunity often scuppers success , Galway people find it hard to wish someone three parishes over well if they don't know their lineage

PeggyShippen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122322316#Comment_122322316

That's interesting. It does explain a fair bit..that odd disunity in Galway GAA. The likes of Clare and Cork have big regional divisions ...like West and East Clare people are very different..Cork city and East ,West and North Cork is very different but by God they are both Clare and Cork first . Limerick City is very different than the county..They still row in very strongly behind the hurlers even though rugby is massive

gym_imposter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122323009#Comment_122323009

I'm a blow in but I know a particular man very well who has decades of experience in Galway GAA politics and the domestic disputes are legendary

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122303745#Comment_122303745

You don't have a clue about Limerick. Stop pretending that you do.

windy shepard henderson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122310586#Comment_122310586

will you stop , natasha has a real problem to raise and fair play to her for standing up , judges and criminals in this country are getting away with blue murder , its alabama deepsouth stuff at the moment but there is nothing wrong with that post above

PeggyShippen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122324193#Comment_122324193

Alabama and the deep south is my favourite part of America. The red states are the best states . The people, food and culture. The North east would be my least favourite .

PeggyShippen

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122323577#Comment_122323577

Of course I do . I helped Ard Scoil ris qualify for the Harty for the first time in years when we won the Dr Kinnane cup back in the mid 90s. I played 2 years Harty after . I'd have an intimate knowledge of Limerick city and it's sports more than most County Limerick folk

randd1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122320409#Comment_122320409

I was curious as to this myself. I knew Kilkenny had won more, but wasn't sure how much across which competitions. I figured I'll try and work it out and see what each county has won across all grades throughout their history. I figured senior, intermediate, junior and national leagues at adult level, senior, intermediate and junior at club level, and minor U20/U21 and schools at underage level.

As best I can figure out, in terms of national titles, it goes along the lines of the following;

• Senior All-Ireland's - Kilkenny 36 / Cork 30
• National Leagues - Kilkenny 19 / Cork 14
• Intermediate All-Ireland's (defunct) - Cork 9 / Kilkenny 5
• Junior All-Ireland's (defunct) - Cork 11 / Kilkenny 9
• U20/U21 All-Ireland's - Cork 14 / Kilkenny 12
• Minor All-Ireland's - Kilkenny 21 / Cork 19
• Club Senior All-Ireland's - Kilkenny 14 / Cork 9
• Club Intermediate All-Ireland's - Kilkenny 9 / Cork 3
• Club Junior All-Ireland's - Kilkenny 11 / Cork 6
• School All-Ireland's - Kilkenny 26 / Cork 14

A total of 162 national titles won by Kilkenny teams, and 129 won by Cork teams, a difference of 33 in Kilkenny's favour.

In terms of provincial titles, it stands as;

• Senior Provincials - Kilkenny 76 / Cork 54
• Intermediate Provincials - Kilkenny 17 / Cork 15
• Junior Provincials - Kilkenny 25 / Cork 21
• U20/U21 Provincials - Kilkenny 27 / Cork 22
• Minor Provincials - Kilkenny 60 / Cork 34
• Club Senior Provincials - Kilkenny 24 / Cork 17
• Club Intermediate Provincials - Kilkenny 13 / Cork 9
• Club Junior Provincials - Kilkenny 16 / Cork 15
• Schools Provincials - Kilkenny 68 / Cork 41

A total of 326 provincial titles won by Kilkenny teams, and 228 won by Cork teams, a difference of 98 in Kilkenny's favour.

A combined total of 488 provincial and national titles for Kilkenny and 357 for Cork, a difference of 131 in Kilkenny's.

So the reason Kilkenny folks would argue strongly that Kilkenny is the most successful hurling county because history says quite clearly it is.

Even more remarkable given that Cork have 5 times our population and 6 times our clubs.

TheSunIsShining

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122329563#Comment_122329563

And people would then argue that Kilkenny only playing hurling is a big factor!

The_Kew_Tour

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122329563#Comment_122329563

Kilkenny deserve to be the top dogs. Teams until recently like limerick and clare would be beaten before they play them.

But their record does look better as in much kinder provincial group. Still wont take away from a super hurling county but it does help with overall titles in each code