I think I want a Toyota Camry 2020 to 2022 reg range

kifi

hi all

I cover a lot of miles, 18k KM per annum, mostly motorway and want a comfortable reliable car. Looking for opinions from owners of Toyota Camrys. Are they a good choice ?

id like Apple CarPlay but it seems this is rare in Camrys ?

User1998

Good reliable cars with good fuel economy. Loads of taxi’s using them which is always a good sign. I’d imagine Apple Carplay can be added. Lots of people out there installing it

GPoint

Toyota licensed Apple CarPlay for face lifted Camry , think 2020 model should have it. Even if not Toyota can retrofit it. Only thing is you will look like a taxi in this car , otherwise nice place to sit on a motorway commute.

Old diesel

Whats the budget.

Anything less then 28 k (including trade in) means you are looking at JDM stuff realistically.

Which aside from it being sensible to check insurance before hand isn't necessarily a big problem.

One main Toyota dealer in Dublin even sells some JDM Camrys indicating that they don't see it as an issue.

Its very obvious the car in below link is JDM as the Camry was not sold here in 2018 - only coming to Europe in 2019.

Personally - budget permitting - I'd try and buy an original Irish car with the cream leather option from a Toyota dealer.

Not all Irish cars have the cream leather option. But the last poster is sort of onto something with the looks like a Taxi thing.

I think the taxi vibe is a thing with the dark interior option. But the cream interior mitigates this massively especially if you've got a nice exterior colour.

JDM stuff usually turns up at various independent dealers - and it's a bit of a lottery as to how good they are if there's an issue.

Its not necessarily that your local main dealer is automatically better but your local Toyota dealer has more of a vested interest in keeping you happy and in their eco system*.

*they want you coming back buying another Toyota

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-camry-4dr-hybrid-auto/36402295

Edited to clarify/make more points

kifi

Makes sense, thanks. I too, much prefer the cream leather seats over the dark colour. my worry is, I’ve seen some cream leather look very tatty after only a few years

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222181#Comment_122222181

Meh, all Camrys are built in Japan and shipped all over the world. Theres no real difference between an Irish or Jap Camry. I think you’d be a fool to limit yourself to Irish cars and end up overpaying from a main dealer. You say they have a vested interest in keeping you in their eco system. I say they have a vested interest in fleecing you for as long as they can. A Camry is up there with one of the most reliable cars in Ireland, so buying a Jap import from a small independent dealer or private seller is a fairly safe bet IMO and would save you thousands of Euros.

goochy

what about hybrid warranty an irish car is likely to have ?

useeme

My understanding is that Irish Camry's are made in the USA.

Supergurrier

If going japanese the crown are also an option maybe

Oscar_Madison

18k kms a year is not huge milage considering it’s mostly motorway -It’s personal taste but I feel the Camry is maybe a bit bland and retirement sort of car - I explored these before and from memory isn’t the mpg about low 40s?
You’re buying the reliability of the Toyota name I guess but just do the math first around running costs

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122242917#Comment_122242917

I’ve talked to a few taxi drivers who changed to Camrys from old Skodas and Avensis and they’ve said their making good fuel savings. Although a lot of them would spend most of their time in Dublin traffic where the economy of a hybrid really shines.

kifi

veering toward Lexus IS or ES 300 now.

1. How would Camry / IS300 / ES300 compare on fuel economy ?
2. How would Camry / IS300 / ES300 compare on ride Comfort and noise levels ?

the above two points are my main considerations

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122243083#Comment_122243083

They are all essentially the same car using the same engine. I’d imagine the ES will be slightly worse on fuel but slightly more quiet and comfortable given its size.

Del2005

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122222501#Comment_122222501

My last 2 cars had cream leather and my current one has whiteish leather. Never had any issues with the leather looking tatty, like everything on a car stuff gets tatty if not looked after.

goochy

If u don't care about image or looks the save money on csmry vs es300h

road_high

A bit conservative looking but they are fantastic well built, well finished and reliable cars. Kind of car you’d have no hesitation in recommending and will hold its value quite well

maidhc

I have a 2023 Camry. Does about 6l/100 km of very mixed driving. I only got 7l/100km from my old Avensis diesel by comparison.

Reasonably quick, very comfy, very well built. No more bland than everything else on the road. Handles quite well on twisty roads also for its size. My biggest complaint is if the phone rings and I’m stopped in traffic the 360 camera doesn’t have a popup to show who is calling!

It’s an Irish car obviously and has a Japan vin.

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122243083#Comment_122243083

I was going to suggest Lexus but as others have said it’s a very close relation and that’s probably why I didn’t -for the simple reason if I was going that direction myself, I’d go Camry all day- I reckon it will hold value more over time and will appeal to more people than the Lexus if considering selling later.

Not sure of pricing but have you considered VW Arteon? They’re about3,5- 5k in the difference more in asking price from a VERY quick search I did but might be worth looking at mpg, (which I believe is much better) gadgets reviews etc just to compare and contrast- again the Aerton is a motorway cruiser - personally I’d probably lean towards the VW but a lot of this is down then to personal taste and how the car drives for you

kifi

There’s not exactly a massive selection of Camrys at 3-4 year old mark. For an extra few grand seems like I could get a Mercedes C220D which I would assume would match the Camry for comfort and mpg ?

goochy

camry not really for motorway driving like a diesel is ?

wouls imagine camry more spacious than c class

kifi

so for clarification- Camry more spacious which would agree with, I wasn’t sure Merc would be more efficient for motorway, but nobody just drives on the motorway so maybe gap isn’t that big between each car when combined driving (but a lot of my journeys are motorway).

Maybe one other thing - Camry is more likely to be more reliable than the C class, or is it?

goochy

Yes camry more reliable - you said in your 1st post you do 18 k km per year mostly on motorway !!

if you are not driving much in city - the diesel willbe much more economical

kifi

how about reliability on 2020 2021 Merc C class?

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122251331#Comment_122251331

Its a Mercedes, you should expect high servicing and maintenance costs.

maidhc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122251022#Comment_122251022

the Camry is more or less the same size as an e class, only slightly smaller.

Diesels are thirsty enough on the motorway too if you open them up. I haven’t got under 7l/100km on the cork Dublin trip and that was at pretty sustained healthy speeds.

trindade

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058354596/i-think-i-want-a-toyota-camry-2020-to-2022-reg-range

Camry definately the best option :)

goochy

diesels arent thirsty on motorways if u stick to the speed limit- any vehicle is thirsty if you open them up - stupid comment

alan partridge aha

Skoda Superb in style trim would be a nice option, I get 5l/100 combined driving with 2016 Octavia tdi.