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Dacia Duster Prices

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭JVince


    And?????

    Different country, different tax system.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,430 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Common market is the key word he used. And he is correct. When it comes to cars we are rode sideways.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭JVince


    Other countries have vehicle registration tax - Denmark in particular.

    Duty is different in all countries too on many products.

    Same in the "united" states. Different tax rates depending on the state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭jimbobmalones


    Key point is simple - we pay almost 50% more than our brothers and sisters in Europe

    for a basic necessity (for most people). Germany is marginally higher (18450 for Duster basic) and that is a seriously wealthy

    country. A second point is that many Irish people are fine with this due to inertia / national characteristics

    hence it continues…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,334 ✭✭✭Miscreant


    Wasn't this similar with the Jogger when it was launched? 17k in other parts of the EU but 25k and above here?

    I believe part of the reason is because we like a higher spec on our cars so the VRT element will be higher as a result.

    Still can't escape the "Treasure Ireland" effect though and feeling like we are taken advantage of.

    As the old adage goes.... the price is what the market will bear. We seem to bear a lot in this country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Eggs For Dinner


    It's a lucrative revenue stream which helps pay our national bills. Value for money on how revenue is spent is another matter



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,430 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    That's incorrect. We only ever get basic models over here in comparison to our EU or even UK counterparts. Their basic model is more like our premium model.

    Its a joke. We are double taxed on everything.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,681 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    That's not really true. While we often didn't get top spec versions of cars or they were special order only, we also didn't get "UN Spec" versions. The Dacia Sandero Access (unpainted bumpers) has never been sold here, it has in the UK and rest of Europe where there is a critical mass of frugal people and old giffers who don't care about spec.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,430 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    So we different specs of vehicles are held back from out market. It's the same thing really.



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  • it’s not though. There is obviously not enough demand for the basic package here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,430 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,954 ✭✭✭goochy


    it will be priced at what importer thinks market can take , i see cars tested in uk mags and see sometimes irish price is euro equavalent of it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭jimbobmalones


    Good point - i think the market is slowing as inflation has taken its toll on Irish peoples incomes. Dacia are currently

    offering zero per cent finance for the first time ever here and I think that's an indication that they are struggling for sales.

    To put it in perspective - the Duster 1 started at 16k for a diesel not that long ago.

    Hopefully it may be priced reasonably here. Still compared to other brands they still offer a lot for the money. Basic octavias are now 32k ish



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,430 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    I think for me to deviate to a Dacia it would have to be serious, serious savings. Although other base models of Octavia, Corolla etc are bigger money I'd have more trust in them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    Not knocking people who would buy a dacia, but I recently hired a 2023 dacia stepway for a week. It was like going back in time with it's lever for internal/external air control etc. And fairly shoddy build quality.

    You gets what you pay for but in Ireland that doesn't apply when comparing 17/18k in other countries to 27k for same car in ireland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,849 ✭✭✭cml387


    I'd rather a lever for air control (and other real buttons) than have to hunt through a set of menus on a touchscreen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,954 ✭✭✭goochy


    They ate the lada of the 21st century



  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Its funny the divide of people who hate Dacia or those who just "get them". Those who do "get them" know exactly what they are. Cheap reliable cars. For most people that is all they need. An A-B car. I have a Dacia as my daily driver and it has never let me down and does the job exactly as I need it. When I want to have a more enjoyable drive I just use one of the other cars I have



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,906 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    …with the average industrial wage at over half of what it is here in slovakia, maybe this is really why we pay more!



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭Luna84
    Mentally Insane User


    I have driven a Sandero and thought it was the same as any other car I drove. One thing though is it was down on power with it's 90bhp. Could do with a 130-150bhp model.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭Mad_Lad


    Absolutely, 100% !!!

    I handed my Volkswagen id3 electric car back to the finance company under the half rule, couldn't wait to get rid of it. The software was irritating as hell, the ergonomics absolute sh1t.

    I often lost climate, radio, climate and even speedometer because of a system crash, stopping the car getting out and locking it worked sometimes but other times not and I'd have to drive around with not even speedo and I recorded it happening once.

    These systems should be banned, but now we're seen screens in cars larger than TVs in homes 30 years ago and no one has the common sense to put a stop to it. How have people become so addicted to screens that they can't sit in a car for a while without having screens in their faces too ? even the digital instrument clusters are massive now with endless menus and customisation.

    I wonder how many fatalities are as a result of the ever increasing amounts of in car tech, cars are not meant to be entertainment centres.

    Now I drive a Kia Cee'd 1.0L 120 Hp petrol and love it, it's much more fun just for the fact alone it weighs around 1300 Kg vs the id3's 2000 Kg !!!

    I quite like having a manual petrol after 9 years of driving EV, after the novelty wears off they are just high tech appliances + I got fed up with public charging, just can't beat filling up in 3 mins for 800+ kms !

    Now I have manual climate control and it's the best thing ever, so simple to use while on the move.

    Nice analogue instrument cluster.

    Proper handbrake

    Halogen lights no matrix headlights that will cost around 2 K each to replace if they fail then have to be coded to the car, for the Cee'd I can get a headlight out of a breakers yard pop it in and job done.

    All this tech in cars and the high cost is just bonkers. I am happy to have a much more simple car and I really like it.

    + I couldn't trade the car no matter what dealer I went to so this is the reason for giving it back to the finance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    I think the point being made (on the motors forum of one of the biggest Irish chat forums) was the extra cost the same motor is going to cost Irish people compared to other motorists that live in other member states of the EU.

    It's a very valid point.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,188 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    It is true. But it's also easily explained. Want cheaper cars? Move to the continent. Want cheaper XYX just move elsewhere.

    We are a small island country on the edge of Europe that drives on the opposite side of the road as the vast majority of the continent.we have a different tax system etc etc. Lots of things are gonna cost more here than on mainland Europe unfortunately.

    The other points raised on this thread are very valid in the context of rising road deaths in this country and the perceived lack of reliability/simplicity in newer and more expensive cars. There are many many more distractions in more expensive cars and a lot more to go wrong with the systems in them. Maybe cheaper more straightforward cars are the way forward.



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭Luna84
    Mentally Insane User


    Just to add about screens. I remember one day I was walking down a street in Galway city and a woman drove by me in a Tesla Model 3 and she was driving by with her face on the screen pressing screen buttons. She didn't crash or anything but as was said it is a distraction for her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,579 ✭✭✭User1998


    It has nothing to do with us being an island or being RHD. The reason cars are more expensive here is because of our punitive VRT system. Look how much cheaper cars are in the UK and it will prove my point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,681 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Even with not selling the proper UN Spec versions, Dacias are by a big margin the cheapest cars on sale here - yet the Sandero languishes in 17th place in sales tables with the Jogger nowhere in 60th. Is Dacia restricting supply or do people just not want good value cars? I'd say it's the latter.

    Financial illiteracy, ignorance and snobbery are endemic in ireland and in the case of cars, PCP encourages consumerism and stupid purchases. The more you pay for something and the bigger the touchscreen it has, the better it must be, right? So a 40k "jeep" from a "good" brand has to be better than a 26k Dacia Jogger - LOL.



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭Luna84
    Mentally Insane User


    Like that meme on the internet. One guy has a old cheap car but 40k of savings while the other guy has a fancy car and no savings who is better off. By just looking at the two of them with their cars you'd say the guy with the fancy car but that is not the full story.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭jimbobmalones


    Agree with most of the points on here - I actively look for a simpler car now and don't want

    a glorified smartphone for a car. I laugh at the safety guff from the authorities who insist

    on driver aids etc while ignoring the elephant in the room - screens!



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