Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

jmayo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123344609#Comment_123344609

Oh there are still very sane members. They may be pretty right wing in social outlook and fiscally conservative, but this current lunacy is pushing the country over the edge and they eventually won't stand for it.

A lot in the party have been frightened into submission allowing the halfwits like MJT steal the limelight and set the discourse simply because the egotistical Trump loves the sycophants.

When corporate America, and most especially the old especially the old Military industrial complex, start feeling it then something will give.

As it is Trump has majorly peed off a lot of those that would have voted for him such as veterans and military personnel.

He is only going to be left with the diehard halfwits.

Much like China perhaps one can hope that members of the GOP are playing the longer game and letting Trump have enough rope to eventually hang himself once and for all.

People argue that China is far more dependent on USA than the other way around, but that is failing to understand how communist party and Xi thinks and what control they have over their country in comparison to Trump and his clown show.

Only problem is the amount of damage Trump will do to the rest of us.

Will_I_Amnt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123343609#Comment_123343609

Exhibit B.

A third person in the oval office yesterday has been confessing to making $2 Billion personally yesterday. President Trump himself.

https://twitter.com/MiMagaWatch/status/1910313724788801540?t=Ul45DgH3MsuFAR1yx-Ih3w&s=19

But him and Elon are swell guys.....doing the job for free!!

eightieschewbaccy

Stock market crashing again so basically the financial markets have zero confidence in Trump. Weirdly the posters who were claiming things would be great under Trump are staying silent. Basically he's proven himself as incompetent when given free reign meanwhile the president who was accused of being senile maintained a healthy economy....

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123344677#Comment_123344677

To be fair the stock market and growth were good under Biden but between the 2 of them over the last 8 years they have grown the US National Debt to dangerous levels. They have a major problem with their debt levels.

Neowise

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123344644#Comment_123344644

I don't think he is boasting there about making 2 B$ personally. I believe this is what he believe usa is making from tariffs daily.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123344677#Comment_123344677

They will be back once the official line is fed to them.

We will be back to how this is all 4D chess tomorrow.

Will probably say he is crashing the economy to fuk China because Americans won't be able to afford to buy anything anymore at any price.

Damien360

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123344709#Comment_123344709

He is not even close to that

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7vnnd89e0jo

All_in_Flynn

Lol!!!

"I have great respect for President Xi. He's been, in a true sense, a friend of mine for a long period of time. 

"I think that we'll end up working out something that's very good for both countries. I look forward to it."

Donald Trump moments ago. He's about to get his pants pulled down by China folks. He knows his goose is cooked and that his policy has been a disaster

greenfield21

Baffling that people can celebrate the realisation of how weak the US has become against China and continue to watch the US losing ground.

Now Europe running towards China looking for trade deals, seriously pure idiots 🤣 history will look favourably on those who push back against China now.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123344796#Comment_123344796

It looks like Trump who is about to go running to China for a deal. He bigly fuked up. Bigger the any president, the bigliest fuk up.

Great to see Europe stand up for itself rather than go around licking that stupid countries boot like when they followed Bush on his tour of slaughter.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123344796#Comment_123344796

Baffling this is your take on it instead of castigating Trump for dividing the West with economically insane proposals, which further make zero sense in the context of trying to push back against China - while pushing the rest of the world away at the same time.

Trump and his MAGA idiots need to be humiliated and discredited at home and abroad and maybe some sanity and sense can be restored to the US and they can see who their real friends and real interests are.

The only people acting like pure idiots this week have been Trump and his stooges.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123344796#Comment_123344796

The USA has gradually got itself into a position of reliance on China over the last 40 years.

There is a profound kind of ignorance in thinking you can solve a gradual problem with an easy answer. Easy answers are kind of Trump's stock in trade, and the rubes eat them up. Now, more than ever.

There comes a point where easy answers meet hard reality though, and this is one of those points. You say that people are celebrating the realisation of how weak the US has become against China. No, they're celebrating the greater realisation that an absolute spoofer is in charge of the USA.

Dr Robert

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123344796#Comment_123344796

Versus a Trump who's cosy with Putin

PropJoe10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123344796#Comment_123344796

In my opinion, other trading blocks need to make a stand against the stupidity and ignorance of this Trump administration. If that involves creating closer trade with the likes of China, then so be it. It's not the Europeans that created this mess. Trump needs to be humiliated because it's the only currency that his GOP can/will understand. Total and utter humiliation.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123344796#Comment_123344796

He just tried to sink the European and global economy and I'm absolutely delighted it's backfired. Meanwhile you've been celebrating a felon with a pretty murky past that has been holding our neighbour's Ukraine at ransom...

fly_agaric

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123344796#Comment_123344796

Doubt people are "celebrating" (what is to "celebrate" about any of this lunacy for a sane non Trump supporting person?) but forgetting about the tariffs, there are headspinning foreign policy shifts in US relations with Europe going on under Trump. Maybe Americans don't care about it or appreciate it, but I think it is to the front of a lot of minds over this side of the ocean.

They could well become a hostile power quite similar to China, (or even Russia being very pessimistic), but one with hooks dug extremely well in, and large amount of political/economic/military control over all of us. The policy shift looks permanent too for the Republicans, when you see the contempt, almost hatred for Europe and the EU in Trump's cabinet and of course from Musk (i.e. it is far from just Trump).

Qaanaaq

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123344796#Comment_123344796

Don't disagree with what you are saying, but Trump went completely the wrong way about this and made enemies in all countries. If he focused in just China from the outset then things might have gone better for him. But he had to go and bully his allies. He also believed Putin would reward him and turn on China but he lost that too. He couldn't have gotten his strategy any worse.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123344443#Comment_123344443

Pizzacakecomic has some good summations of the idiocy of MAGA.

threeball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123344444#Comment_123344444

Thousands of manufacturers about to go to the wall including huge names who would buy 90% of their components from China and are really only involved in final assembly.

China will support their companies whilst they find different avenues. Trump will let his burn. You'll see these companies go to Mexico, or south America, assemble there and export to the US at a lower tariff. The cheaper wages will offset the tariff.

aloyisious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123343419#Comment_123343419

Possibly. I can imagine the effect Trump's tariffs had on US Pharma stocks and shares, at both national and international levels.

yagan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123345010#Comment_123345010

Im sure there loads of maga business owners still internalizing being wiped out because they thought it was China and not them that would be paying the tariffs.

Akrasia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123344444#Comment_123344444

That is an awful lot of money the US government is extracting from consumers and businesses through import taxes while at the same time cutting back on investment in public services and infrastructure. Didn't they have a tea party in Boston over something like this a few hundred years ago?

circadian

So the day is ending with all euro and Asian markets (except SENSEX) recovering strongly and the US market **** itself again.

Winning bigly.

Akrasia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123344644#Comment_123344644

Is this a real clip?? It's not a AI deep fake?

The guy is bragging about deliberately crashing the global stock market, costing trillions in lost investments to pension funds, college funds, just so he can personally earn 2 billion dollars (plus plus plus)

This is the logic of the disaster capitalists. Crash the global economy, cause a decades long recession and mass poverty that affect millions and drop the value of the economy by trillions, just so they can make a few hundred billion extra for themselves.

yagan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123345170#Comment_123345170

And all the while the USD continued weakening and the 10 Yr T bond that so spooked them to blink yesterday started rising again.

I don't have a sub for the Straits Times but the headline from Singapore says it all:

Trump tariff pause: We may be in the early stages of a World Minus One

The start-stop approach to tariffs could see the US increasingly isolated as countries reduce economic dependence on an untrustworthy player.

The world minus one is a perfect description of the isolating wall Trump is building around the US economy.

Capt'n Midnight

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123342998#Comment_123342998

If China blocks things according to Israel's version of dual use then things would get interesting.

aloyisious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123344334#Comment_123344334

So he didn't go the Presidential EO route and try to get rid of Powell. That shows he knows that even with the SCOTUS presidential official duties ruling in his favour, he does not have the power as president to fire Powell. He hasn't even gone the route of a presidential EO to try get rid of Powell. If SCOTUS decline to hear the application, he and the GOP will probably try to fake up and ramrod a bill through congress giving him the power to fire Powell and the other named person of the board and sidestep a negative SCOTUS decision.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123345132#Comment_123345132

Is the American education system that bad where they don't even know what a tariff is or is it just another case of selective amnesia to put the square peg of Trump's baseless proclamations into the round hole of reality?

I'm guessing it's a mix since Trump's opponents all seem to know what a tariff is and how it works and I don't think there is a total 1:1 incidence of being badly educated and being a Trump supporters, though he does love the poorly educated people also.

But it's amazing - I don't recall him even trying to offer an explanation on how he planned to impose tariffs on the importer rather than domestic consumers. It was only when the reality of tariffs was too much to ignore that he said it'd be a little painful for a time.

yagan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123345258#Comment_123345258

I wouldn't praise Trump opponents readily, Netanayhu got 28 standing ovations from a joint sitting of Congress and Senate when the Democrats held the presidency.

Biden did carry over Trump China lab theory which I thought was ridiculous, as too was the Tictoc ban.

Akrasia

This week, we have seen trillions 'lost' from the value of global stock markets.

What we’ve just witnessed isn’t a mysterious vanishing act of wealth. It’s a massive, predictable transfer of value — out of pension funds, mutual funds, and retail investors’ portfolios, and straight into the hands of private hedge funds, high-net-worth individuals, and the politically connected.

The vast majority of people don't own any stocks or trade them personally, if you own stocks and shares, you likely own them through a managed fund, one that is regulated to only take on medium to low risk investments, which exclude short selling of banks, currencies and triple a rated treasuries.

Crashes don’t destroy wealth. Every asset is owned by someone, every debt is owed by someone. When the stock market crashes, everyone who lost money in the crash, lost that money to someone else.

Who got the trillions of dollars that were wiped out of the stock market this week?