Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

A Dub in Glasgo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123172004#Comment_123172004

He is wrong, I could understand the questioner

aloyisious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123171716#Comment_123171716

And there I was thinking that Putin could speak English in order to speak to both the US and British Govts without relying on interpreters.

Nermal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123171711#Comment_123171711

Probably not as much impact as the Islamists mowing down Germans in their cars.

Mod Edit: Warned for trolling

uptherebels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123171815#Comment_123171815

Well you know the saying.

If it wasn't for double standards, "conservatives" wouldn't have any standards at all

extra gravy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123172201#Comment_123172201

One would like to think that the majority of the German electorate aren't dumb enough to tar all Muslims with the same brush due to the actions of a handful of extremists.

yagan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123172239#Comment_123172239

Didn't Reagan praise godly warriors in the Oval office when he was supplying them with weapons in Afghanistan?

j62

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123171282#Comment_123171282

Anyone who buys a Tesla in 2025 deserves to be called a Twat

Literally supporting Nazism

Anyways

https://bsky.app/profile/news.rte.ie/post/3li5rc6557k27

Oscar_Madison

feel Europe is finding its voice- I think we have all had to take a few weeks just to see what the Trump presidency would be offering -

but it’s a simple playbook it has to be said -stupid world wrestling federation circa 1987 macho trash talk bullsh1t - America is fast being discounted as a farce - as a persona, it’s the guy or gal in the office who spouts a load of b0ll0x - everyone nods their head but then exchange knowing glances with everyone else - they will be politically and socially isolated - and Trump will just shout more for attention.

The big Baby-Nappy-Trump effigy is even more relevant today than it was 4-5 years ago.

Let’s all take a breath - it will be a marathon not a race - relax just a bit.

maybe instead of looking at what checks/balances America has (feic them is my view- they created and enabled this pr1ck let them have him) - what are Europes checks and balances? Are they working?

That’s what we need to be more focused on.

We’re playing into Trumps hands - we’re rattled - he’s winning.

Just a thought - I reckon most of us here on this thread are a hell of a lot closer in our thinking, as much as there’s disagreements, than we are with trumps outlook on life.

threeball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123171650#Comment_123171650

I think the rise of the far right in Europe will be stunted by what people have seen in the US. The loopers will still vote nazi but the swing voters will get cold feet.

reclose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123172049#Comment_123172049

you’ve quoted my post asking to see the video of musks son talking to Trump.

So now that you’ve shouted down my opinion on the far right rising in Europe.

What is your opinion on why this is happening?

tarvis

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123172267#Comment_123172267

and those still on X are ?

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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123172050#Comment_123172050

You’ve replied in just as condescending manner as the other poster but at least you’ve made a lengthy enough post.

The concerns I see in my social groups is fear of future terrorist attacks, murders, rapes, lack of resources such as housing and medical.

Why do you think the far right is gaining traction or Europe and how do you think it could be stopped?

j62

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123172328#Comment_123172328

Hitlerjugend

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https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123172062#Comment_123172062

Can you elaborate at all? Or are you happy to just shut it down like that?

reclose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123172308#Comment_123172308

I really hope so but there are countries in Europe that are heading that way.
Thankfully not much in Ireland though.

threeball

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/elon-musk-gaza-canada-greenland-b2697462.html

Musk speaking out of both sides of his mouth again. Saying the US should mind its own business when it comes to regime change, just a couple of weeks after interfering in German and British politics.

File this alongside being "a free speech absolutist", just as long as you agree with him. Everyone else should be jailed.

extra gravy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123172346#Comment_123172346

"Fear of future terrorist attacks, murders, rape" from whom exactly? You might remind the women in your social groups that they're more likely to be raped or murdered by the men in their social groups than they are by an immigrant. That fact doesn't suit the far right narrative though.

Iecrawfc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123172417#Comment_123172417

We're still at the 'everybody that expresses concern about immigration must be mistaken or a racist' stage then, that's precisely why the far right loopers are gaining ground around Europe.

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123172327#Comment_123172327

Same reason that Trump won. There is a greater proportion of the electorate on any given election over the last number of years who are motivated by racism, sexism and/or ignorance. And for the record, I feel the greatest proportion of people who tick one of these 3 boxes are ticking the ignorance one.

I said it in 2016, I was so against Trump then because I said he would drastically lower the bar of what constituted reasonable behaviour in politics both in discourse and in performance. And that has 100% come to pass. The Brexit referendum had happened before Trump won but the entirety of Article 50 and the negotiations thereafter took place in a Trump influenced world and particularly the use of lies and falsehoods to influence opinions and therefore the electorate.

These threads were full up to last November of myself and others saying how unsuitable Trump was for office and if we were to write our worst case script for how it would have played out were he to win, what has happened would have been worse than it.

Bolsanaro, Johnson, Farage, Le Pen, Wilders, Orban, Leoni and many other have all risen on the back of conservative media flooding the zone with sh*t. A tactic proposed by Steve Bannon one of whom Trump enabled.

You spoke on here tonight about your friends being worried about rapes, murders, and terrorist attacks and the likes. Irish people over the age of 30 who are using fears like these to spread distrust towards immigrants have short memories. Ireland in the 70's 80's and 90's had no shortage of all of these to an extreme level. The raft of missing women in the east and south east of the country, the bombings and shootings of the troubles knife attacks to such a level in one city it became known as stab city not to mention the systemic abuse that was happening under the remit of the Catholic Church. Ireland is much safer now than it was in the past and people with issues about costs and access to housing who point the fingers at immigrants like they are the sole reason for issues within these areas are firmly in the ignorant category in my view.

And if you're going to respond to any of this with "Yeah, but" or similar and talk about attacks in Europe then consider the recent attack in Sweden by a right wing terrorist that killed 11 people but wasn't mentioned here on Boards. Or the case of Lucy Letby in the UK who killed several babies and yet wasn't targeted with anything like the hatred that people of an immigrant background get when they are suspected of such acts.

Trump was completely incompetent in 2016-2020; and made both the BLM issue and Covid worse with his input. After he lost, he tried to overturn the results of the election, tried to keep and share state secrets, was found responsible for rape, was found guilty of fraud and yet 70M+ people said that is who we should have as President and since he has reassumed that office, he has been worse than expected. Since Trump was elected first and since Brexit was voted for, the uber wealthy on the planet have grown even more wealthy and influential as we see with Musk dog-walking Trump around Washington and Jeff Bezos' Washington Post advocating for ethnic cleansing in Gaza. Trump is using his Presidency to target resource heavy countries such as Canada, Greenland Ukraine and the Gaza coast to for Americas benefit and if you think this is for the country and not the uber wealthy people kissing his ass, I've got a bridge to sell you.

TLDR The people who earn 10,000/hour are telling the people who earn 25 an hour that the person who wants a chance to earn 7 an hour is the problem.

extra gravy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123172469#Comment_123172469

Where did I say that? There are plenty of valid discussions to be had on the topic but If your "concerns about immigration" include thinking you're more likely to be raped and murdered by an immigrant than an Irishman, then yes, you are a racist.

uptherebels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123172346#Comment_123172346

You asked a question, you got an answer.

If you don't like the answer that's on you.

The guys in my social group fear the same, but for some reason only when those acts are perpetrated by a foreigner. Irish person rapes someone not a peep, a foreigner person or even a foreign sounding name, then they are foaming at the mouth.

Because they offer grand promises and simple ideas as an answer complex questions and situations. This isn't a new concept

Getting people of social media would cut the legs out from under alot of them. Algorithms feeding people outrage for clicks. Back to my original point of people looking for what they want to hear, some from being conditioned to want to hear it

reclose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123172497#Comment_123172497

Thanks for the lengthy reply.
Id agree ignorance would be the cause, only a tiny minority are racist/sexist etc.

You seem to think I’ve some sort of agenda. I don’t.

The far right riding in Europe concerns me.

reclose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123172552#Comment_123172552

I take your point on this but I don’t think all people who think that are racist.
Some maybe be ignorant or misinformed by toxic social media algorithms.

reclose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123172564#Comment_123172564

You’re right. I perceived a tone that wasn’t there in your first post.
I agree a lot of what’s in your second post.

Strazdas

Interesting to read the explanations of British Trumpites on social media this evening as to just why they like and admire him. They know full well he is an American protectionist who doesn't like the UK, but they see him as the template for a future British leader : a 'strong man' and right wing English nationalist who will put Britain first and tell everyone else to F off basically, as well as sticking it to the wokes and immigrants etc.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123172201#Comment_123172201

Funnily enough, i don't see you highlighting the epidemic of extremist white people mowing down schoolkids with their assault rifles in the U.S.

It's almost as if your rage is selective, based on for a particular colour of skin or religion.

aloyisious

Quite probably nothing at all to see or hear in a CNN report that there will be no talks meeting between US and Russian Govt people at the Munich security conference despite Trump having said such talks would take place. CNN seems to have based its report, that representatives of the US administration, including Vice President JD Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio, do not plan talks with the Russians, on what it described as three well-informed sources. Kyiv also announced that it did not plan meeting with Moscow in Munich. The head of the Munich conference, Christoph Heusgen, said no Russian official had received a German visa.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123172308#Comment_123172308

I think that'll be true only for so long if the more centre-ground parties can't get their collective act together and offer effective solutions on matters such as housing, immigration and cost of living among a whole host of other things.

The problem is that the direction of the world is really dictated by powerful monied interests that aren't interested in changing the status quo since it's so profitable, and are only too happy to watch on while those down the ladder point the fingers at each other. Centrist parties' hands are kind of tied, and the election of far-right parties would be better rather than worse for the plutocrats at the top.

Wolf359f

So with all the damage Doge is doing by pausing/cancelling payments etc…. have they even found any fraud?

10000maniacs

JD Vance probably has a couple of weeks left in office. Mr. Orange doesn't like people going off his script.