Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

roosterman71

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123141342#Comment_123141342

This doesn't tie into his previous plan of taking the minerals from the contested region in return for supporting Ukraine.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123141548#Comment_123141548

And, also, rulings in lower courts can be appealed and overturned in higher courts, and confidence has never been lower that the Supreme Court wouldn't agree with whatever spurious arguments Trump's legal teams put forward.

rob316

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123141623#Comment_123141623

Ya flys in the face of his hands off approach to international affairs I thought we'd see. Does the average American give a shite about Israel?

aloyisious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123141566#Comment_123141566

The judge I wrote about is a Federal Court judge. When Trump gets the right [through some SCOTUS ruling in the future while he's in office] to ignore the lower federal courts and their orders, the federal court system will be gone: period.

Barring some error by him which would force SCOTUS to move against him directly in terms of ruling he has committed an unconstitutional act against the US, as defined in the constitution on how the federal courts operate, I don't see the federal justice surviving. He'll do his best to reduce it further to a puppet in the same way Hitler made changes to the German Court and justice system in the 1930's.

The individual state court system is a different thing altogether and will do as the local politicians guide through the laws they enact at state level.

LambshankRedemption

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123140380#Comment_123140380

If only we had 10,000 troops to offer.

yagan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123141623#Comment_123141623

I think even Israel are worried about Trump. Today's Haaretz editorial highlighted how Trump's Gaza plan is uniting the middleeast against Israel like nothing before.

Like getting Mexico to build a wall nothing will happen. Trump is a vacuum into which US society is getting sucked into.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123141659#Comment_123141659

They don't even need to care about Israel that much. Islamophobia has been a cultural staple of the US since at least the Iranian revolution, and kicked into high gear with 9/11.

You can get a pretty broad coalition between people who are pro-Israel and those who are anti-Muslim.

And it's not even that the pro-Israel portion of the population really love Israel, but its existence also acts as a sort of a pseudo 9th crusade and the holy sites of Christendom are unlikely to be destroyed or desecrated by invading armies from the south or east so long as it has the US's backing.

My name is URL

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-impose-sanctions-international-criminal-court-2025-02-06/

U.S. President Donald Trump will sign an executive order on Thursday to sanction the International Criminal Court for targeting the United States and its allies, such as Israel, a White House official said.The order will place financial and visa sanctions on individuals and their family members who assist in ICC investigations of U.S. citizens or U.S. allies, said the official.The move by Trump comes after U.S. Senate Democrats last week blocked a Republican-led effort to sanction the ICC in protest at its arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his former defense minister over Israel's campaign in Gaza. Netanyahu is currently visiting Washington.

The nuts get nuttier. Any of his supporters here want to try squaring this circle?

Who would fold first if the rest of the world simply decided not to export to the US full stop?

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123141710#Comment_123141710

I think they're fixated on being excited about him targeting minorities. Most don't seem to have registered/care about his support of ethnic cleansing.

j62

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123141663#Comment_123141663

that’s the thing tho, we seen how slowness of courts has helped Trump get off multiple charges

But that also works in the other direction

My name is URL

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123141722#Comment_123141722

The idiots wouldn't be long softening their cough and copping on once they realise what it means to be frozen out of global markets entirely. How else can the world deal with this lunacy?

nachouser

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/06/eggs-theft-pennsylvania

This is an eggcellent example of things to come for the average American.

j62

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123141751#Comment_123141751

Oh I’m sure the common American yolk are deeply concerned

https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/eggs-us

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123141722#Comment_123141722

He doesn't have principles, his core don't either. As long as he's doing something to the people they've been told to dislike and blame for everything (the blue haired libs, LGBT, minorities, brown people, smart people, the "Biden crime family", the free press, whatever) - then they are happy

There's sometimes a pretense to care that he wants to take over Greenland or to disagree with his Palestine final solution but that's to project some sort of objectivity. Otherwise they love this. They have no genuine concern for the institutions of democracy, facts, international order, any of that.

Even abroad. For example a poll came out recently showing that 20% of young people in the UK favored a dictatorship. We are living in surreal times.

aloyisious

Following from his signing an EO last week aimed at rooting out anti-Semitism on college campuses across the country, Trump is to sign another Thursday afternoon launching a "Task Force to End the War on Christians" as part of his greater focus on protecting religious freedoms. The new task force will be composed of his Cabinet and other senior advisors.

The order itself directs the task force to conduct a review "of all departments and agencies to identify and eliminate anti-Christian policies, practices, or conduct." The task force will convene Christian leaders, alongside state, local, and tribal officials, to recommend new executive and legislative actions for Trump and Congress to take to remedy "any failures to enforce the law against acts of anti-Christian hostility, vandalism, and violence." Trump spoke earlier Thursday morning at both the National Prayer Breakfast on Capitol Hill and a second event at the Capital Hilton, where he suggested Attorney General Pam Bondi would lead a government task force to root out anti-Christian bias in the federal government.

I guess if you're a leftie your card may be marked by a visit from the God-Squad or what ever remains of the FBI on instruction of AG Bondi. It would be gas if Trump himself were to fall foul of this order himself, knowing what is known about his known activities. No one expected the American Inquisition from Trumps pen.

superd1978

So is my understanding correct; Trump is trying to impose tarrifs, so products will be purchased in US rather than imported, resulting in US companies returning to US.. while on a separate mandate, he is also trying to deport millions of migrants, who would essentially be doing this work.. theres an obvious chasm there. Thats aside from all the geopolicitic issues and reputational damage he's causing for the US!!

Personally, I think this will all just blow over and amount to nothing.. that will greatly impact Ireland anyway!!

And I am on of the 378,000 people employed directly or indirectly by a US company.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123141900#Comment_123141900

He's also assuming that other countries won't retaliate. Be a shame if China blocked Tesla in order to protect it's huge market and domestic EV companies.

aloyisious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123141900#Comment_123141900

One thing that would seem apparent from deporting people and getting industries to bring their foreign operations home is that the wages and working conditions the deported workers were given would have to be accepted by the native-born US workers Trump and the bosses will expect to work for both the returning companies and the ones who employed the deported workers. I suppose he thinks a lack of federal funding and lack of medical care will force the US work force to work for slave wages or starve unless he has a compliant work force hidden away somewhere. Wait'll Musk proposes that the no federal tax on tips law is dropped or some way is found to replace the loss of tax-income from the workers.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123141958#Comment_123141958

I'm guessing the EU will target Tesla too. Half suspect that's why he rolled back on Canada.

kowloon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123137938#Comment_123137938

Lets see how things play out over the next 6 months, Rome wasnt built in a day.

True, but the Visigoths burnt it to the ground in three days.

briany

@Dohnjoe

Even abroad. For example a poll came out recently showing that 20% of young people in the UK favored a dictatorship. We are living in surreal times.

The rise of authoritarianism is preceded by a chronic failure of democracy to adequately address the concerns of the people. People don't want a tyrant, but will opt for one if they feel like that's the only alternative who's offering solutions.

And I think the truth is that systems of liberal democracy get stagnant after a period of time. They become embedded with monied interests. The people themselves take their freedoms for granted. The need for consensus makes the pace of needed change seem absolutely glacial at times. It's easy to see how a person who comes along with quick answers to problems seems attractive to people, especially as the collective memory of the last round of western dictators fades.

There are other factors like propaganda and cultural backlashes, but I don't think that these are enough to make people choose a tyrant by themselves. The fundamental thing is the endemic, unaddressed problems which eventually lead moderate people towards extreme politicians.

uptherebels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123139964#Comment_123139964

Letting them live there for free. Are you sure you believe in capitalism? Are you then left aswell?

aloyisious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123141958#Comment_123141958

He was there last year to open a new Tesla plant. It seems China make most of the batteries used by Tesla cars. Either he has some deal done which won't be affected by Trumps tariffs on Chinese goods or….

On the issue of trade with China, the US postal service cancelled its block on accepting post from China, which might be good for the US consumer.

ilkhanid

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123141751#Comment_123141751

Not that Trump, that eggo-manic will care one whit.

ilkhanid

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123140423#Comment_123140423

Indeed, but he wouldn't know that. After all, he never found out that not a fifth of his great wall had been built.

threeball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123139825#Comment_123139825

The Lad who can't gey his driverless cars to stop smashing into things and killing people is going to tinker with an aviation system that's evolved over 50years. This will work out well.

yagan

So different day different brain fart as the orange one just established a task force to tackle anti Christian bias.

So Trump had the Zionist rev up their bulldozers, and the next good old time bible thumpers will be citing again how there had to be a certain amount of Jews kept alive to bear witness to the rapture, according to the book of revelation.

Trump is a black hole sucking in US society.

ilkhanid

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123140467#Comment_123140467

He did seem to be interested in WWE-or whatever it was called then-but it's status as a 'sport' is dubious and it seems to have been just another arena for his self-publicity. Typical that he would involve himself in an ''activity'' that's characterised by fakery, crass theatrics and crude spectacle.

yagan

^

WWE is to sport what Trump is to Politics, all show.

looksee

What does a bunch of amateurs messing with aviation safety have to do with finding 'waste' in government spending?