Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

threeball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123521531#Comment_123521531

Musk is only rich on paper. Hes not liquid and he's very vulnerable. Trump could destroy him in a matter of weeks. This bill will destroy him. Tesla survives mainly off carbon credits it sells to producers of ICE vehicles, with up to 7k per car coming from subsidies. Trump can remove that.

X was financed off the back of Teslas ridiculous stock valuation. If that drops the banks can make a margin call on the X loan.

Trump can also designate Space X as central to national security and basically take it under government control. He can also limit funding for Space X.

Without Space X, starlink is defunct. No method to put the satellites in space so that becomes worthless too.

So two small orders from Trump and Musk becomes a low level billionaire with very little leverage overnight. Add to that the fact that Trump absolutely hates that Musk is richer than him and it's only a matter of time before we see all this in play.

Field east

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123521531#Comment_123521531

how Musk reacts to- going forward- will give a strong indicator of how serious , committed and genuine he is given how ultra wealthy he is. He is totally diametrically opposed to a key part of that ‘ big and beautiful ‘ bill ie the section that significantly increases the dept and is 100% against the tariff strategy.
he may not be able to do a lot re the tarriff situation but he has the cash and some connections to turn a significant republicans against the bill.

If he does nothing about any of the above then the ‘deal made with Trump a’ is eg a Musk favourite becomes head of NASA or some changes are made to that BIG bill - even cosmetic ones, or, or, or, or, or.

Field east

IMO , re America, with a ‘good solicitor’ and the way the law is structured /worded there , the federal government will find a way to convict any citizen of ‘something’ no matter how 100% clean your record is

I will ‘ bet my last dollar’ that this gentleman will be deported again . He has no hope But I am prepared to ‘eat my words’

extra gravy

ICE dressed up like they're in Afghanistan and using tear gas and stun grenades on a peaceful crowd of protesters outside a detention center in LA. Aided and abetted by the LAPD. Fascism on full display now.

francois

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123522128#Comment_123522128

they're going to show up in the wrong neighbourhoodone day, gun battle will ensue, lots of casualties, give Trump the excuse to bring in martial law, suspend habeus corpus

looksee

Trump is threatening California, saying he will stop federal grants for various things. How does the tax system work that California pays into the federal system, could they stop those payments in retaliation?

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123521730#Comment_123521730

His father while long lived had dementia for a decade plus and likely had a better diet.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123522338#Comment_123522338

I'd have to do some digging to prove this, I suppose, but I seem to remember people on here saying he'd never make it to now , never mind some point in the future that is half a decade to a decade away.

I have absolutely no idea how long he'll last, but for best results, I believe people should just operate under the assumption that he'll live until 110, powered exclusively by spite and diet coke.

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123522356#Comment_123522356

He's got 2 years

yagan

Those infusion marks we've seen on his hand and his general worsening scattiness would make me suspect that if he does survive this it will be with maximum medical intervention.

Is he playing full golf rounds now?

Roald Dahl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123522356#Comment_123522356

As Anthony 'The Mooch' Scaramucci so well put it: "People like Trump don't die."

It's impossible to tell how long he will live, but the fact remains that his parents lived to be very old. I am aware that Fred Trump Sr. suffered with dementia and it has been said that his last 10 years were marked by its accompanying decline, but that still means he reached 85 in good health.

Trump has a famously poor diet and his doctor's reports are clearly farcically doctored, but he remains does remain active into his late seventies and is physically able enough to play golf very often. His being a non-drinker and non-smoker will also stand him well. His vituperative, vindictive, spiteful nature seems to energise him, whereas this constant flow of negativity would have long since put others into an early grave.

I would be sure that Trump has the finest healthcare available to man and also makes ceaseless use of its diagnostics.

Nobody can really tell how long more he will live, but I still believe that if he does last until 2029 that he will be staying in office.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123522456#Comment_123522456

I think that the constant flow of negative energy for a lot of other people would cause a cortisol (stress hormone) buildup which would lead to other health issues. However, Trump's brain appears to be wired differently whereby he positively thrives on spite and grudges. It's what gets him up in the morning.

Economics101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123522456#Comment_123522456

Here is what appears to be the latest medical report on DJT. Make of it what you will. 😁

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/2025/04/memorandum-from-the-white-house-physician/

Never mind, the House under the committee chairmanship of James Comer (Congress's answer to Inspector Chuseau) is investigating the great Biden Health Conspiracy.

What a distraction.

Manc-Red_

Intelligent folk who follow big game fish always forget to read between the lines.

This of course is a publicity stunt with no merit.

Unfortunately the majority will swallow.

Field east

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123522618#Comment_123522618

“———— - and frequent victories on golf events”. I was going fine until I saw that statement. Then Chat GBT jumped out!!!!!!!!!!!

VinLieger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123522618#Comment_123522618

Musk and Vance are 6,2 and yet in every picture taken with them Trump is visibly shorter despite that document claiming he is 6,3 and his own many previous claims he is actually 6,4.

Ill continue to believe my own eyes.

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123522090#Comment_123522090

Trump culd do all that, but it would have the potential to create more problems for him than they would solve. For one the stock exchange would likely go into meltdown, and while Musk and the rest of the tech bros may not be buddy buddies, they are birds of a feather who would be asking themselves the question "Am I next ?"

Trump has gotten to where he is by cowing the GOP using wealth to threaten those who in any way disagree with him with electoral defunding, and mobilising his MAGA cult against them using social media. Trump`s whole war chest compared to any of those tech bros would look like a pittance, and his own controlled social media outlet Truth Social has only around 2 million followers. If those bros decided to curb Trump and bot postings on their platforms Trump would end up talking to nobody much more than himself. For someone who floods the zone with disinformation and lies via socail media to exercise control and feed his base support that could be a major problem for him

Even if Trump decided to do all you mentioned to him, Musk is presently worth around $350 billion and would still have more money than he could squander in a dozen lifetimes and would still have control of Twitter regardless of what the banks might or might not decide until at least after the mid terms, and would likely still have after Trump`s term is up.

This fallout has left Trump and the GOP with $100 million less funding for the mid terms, and his Big Beautiful Bill, with the effect it would have on Tesla, has really left Musk with no options other than doing a Trump on Trump using his wealth and his social media platform to go after those that support it. Trump going after any more of Musk`s interests would only add to that.

If anybody has more to lose in this than Musk, it`s Trump.

CFlat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123522618#Comment_123522618

What Dr. is going to state ANYTHING negative about him? He would fùcking destroy them. They'd never work again. I also believe that's what's going on with his administration. If any of them ever left the WH, he'd destroy them too. He's ruling by fear.

TinyMuffin

should read “ neck like a jockey’s bollocks”

Igotadose

Flood the zone. Now, a new ballroom in the WH.

(https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114637837347707659)

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123522099#Comment_123522099

I doubt Musk gives a toss about the debt. It`s all about what tariffs and the "big beautiful bill" would do to Tesla and any other of his interests.

Trump just screwed a friend of Musk`s, Isaacman, on becoming head of NASA so he is not going to turn around and hand it to Musk. Especially after Gor who detests Musk being the one who spiked Isaacman`s appointment. Trump`s ego would never let him do a TACO of that magnitude.

If that "big beautiful bill" has to come back to Congress for alterations, to me at least it would indicate that Musk had a lot to do with that and would leave Trump with even more of a squeaky bum heading into the mid terms than he has at present.

Harika

Elon was played like a fiddle by Trump.
He paid him millions and supported him. He got his role as DOGEman, got blamed for all the cuts. When his popularity tanked, Trump dragged him along with this QVC Sales show. His usefullness is done and Trump dropped him. As noble as Elon thought his mission was, it was only the distraction and he has been outplayed.
He cannot go back to the libs, they hate him, the reps wont drop Trump for him. The middle of the isle party he can ask Andrew Yang how this goes.
All he can do is to lay low and hope that Trump also doesnt cut off his government contracts. And here he still needs SpaceX for the space exploration and the iron dome (maybe) , does Trump needs Musk, no.

aloyisious

One can only hope that with Trump's intent to interfere with the education of elementary, middle and high school children and the attack on the universities that the US doesn't end up with brainwashed next generation adults and find itself unable to put forward thinkers capable of scientific, engineering and mathematical thought and inventions essential to any country's greatness.

As it is, he seems intent on allowing his White House backroom geniuses wreck what he claims will be a MAGA country. So far his version of the Gestapo, Homeland Security and ICE, have not managed to bring the universities under his control. He still has another three years to achieve the aim of his backroom geniuses.

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123522943#Comment_123522943

He may or may not need Musk, but what he doesn`t need is a cranky junkie billionaire pissing into his tent by using money against him that he had pledged for him who controls the social media platform that Trump thrived on.

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123522854#Comment_123522854

It'll look like someone ran around a budget tile shop and then went to a paint shop an bought 10 crates of Gold Effect Paint.

It'll be about as classy as a Stringfellows.

aloyisious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123522854#Comment_123522854

And him with bone spurs….

threeball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123522792#Comment_123522792

Again, Musk is not worth $350 billion, he's only worth that notionally. He would need to close out all his share positions at current value to realise that. Its fantasy stuff.

Trump is quite happy to crash the market. He'll probably short Tesla stock before he announces any removal of Tesla subsidies. He doesn't give a toss as long as he makes money and he's vindictive. Theres no way he lets Musk shoot his mouth without trying to hurt him back.

The Tech bros knew they were playing with fire when they got on board with Trump. They also know he can hurt them unless they stay onside, at least for the next 3yrs.

Frank Bullitt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123522456#Comment_123522456

Golf isn’t very taxing on the body, especially when you use a golf buggy to cart yourself around.

Again, he can’t remain in office after his term ends, surely you understand that?

trashcan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123523612#Comment_123523612

You sure about that ? It might be the legal position, but when have leagalities meant anything to Trump ? If he remains in power without being removed, who knows what the landscape will look like in 3/4 years time.