Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 06/06/25

DrPsychia

There is no limit to the depths this administration can sink. Truely disgusting.

Patrick2010

MAGA supporters saying the protesters yesterday were all funded by Soros, the same people who have no problem with billionaire Musk running the show

amandstu

"Could not help but make me feel ashamed

To live in a land where justice is a game"

BD (Hurricane)

aloyisious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331376#Comment_123331376

Given how he occasionally claims that tariffs are a bargaining tool, I wouldn't be at all surprised. This time, he may be in a bind of his own creation: the time lapse between both may prevent him [for either a safety stand-still position or being pure pig-headed] from cancelling them. The last one was cancelled on the ALLEGED basis that he had got what he wanted from Canada and Mexico.

IMO, it now revolves around a matter of pride as well as politics now, as he's used it against so many countries. He might not be able to admit he got it wrong, unless he's prepared to throw some-one in particular under the bus, again.

Will_I_Amnt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331431#Comment_123331431

I didn't say anything about them having primaries at this stage. As for the main figures.....that's part of the problem.. who the hell are they.....where the hall are they? Even if there are 4, 5, 6 of them, they're still the minority in numbers

In the last couple of days they've started wheeling out Obama and Harris again. I hope she doesnt think shes EVER getting another crack at it. It's pathetic. They're a shambles.

yagan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331499#Comment_123331499

A dead badger on the side of the road is a better candidate than the incumbent.

Podge_irl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331499#Comment_123331499

Jeffries, Schumer, Newsome. All of whom I have seen plenty of without going looking. I think their messaging is fairly crap, but I've seen plenty of them.

The Democrat candidate for President could be a house member, a governor, a senator. We have absolutely no idea and neither does anyone else. Newsome is clearly gunning for it so won't recognise anyone else as the "defacto leader" of the party etc etc. This is all just normal politics work in the US, you are demanding something impossible.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331524#Comment_123331524

That Newsom podcast isn't going down well either, he's having people like Steve Bannon on it but not challenging anything that they say..

Patrick2010

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331396#Comment_123331396

The White House stated yesterday he won, do they ever release his scores?

saabsaab

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331558#Comment_123331558

Of course he won! Just like Putin wins.

yagan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331558#Comment_123331558

The real question is did he get more hole in ones than Kim Jung Il record of 5 on one round.

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331326#Comment_123331326

I think Musk came out yesterday arguing for 0% tariffs and total freedom of trade between the US and EU.

Well, this is as dumb as Trump's tariff nonsense. Tariffs can be used to protect domestic production and shield an economy. I'd imagine that it can be helpful in some certain circumstances, especially to smaller nations.

However, Trump uses them in a bludgeon-like manner when a more targeted and logical approach would be needed. Tariffing everything coming from abroad is just mindless. Conversely Musk's 0% tariff across the board is equally ill-thought out gibberish.

Can't believe these dickheads are in a position of power.

DrPsychia

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331479#Comment_123331479

That's a tactic straight out of the authoritarian playbook. They use it to delegitamise dissent and create distrust to avoid engagement with the substance of criticism.

Soros has been defamed for years as a liberal Jewish shadow puppet master, yet when Musk is literally pulling the strings in front of our eyes, they are completely blind to it. The sheer stupidity and ignorance it takes for trump supporters to believe this is difficult for me to comprehend.

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331469#Comment_123331469

As if it's needed, it's an indication of the type of minds you have in the White House these days.

fly_agaric

Took a look at it this morning (out of curiosity) & White House website is packed full of complete nonsense again (and pictures of the "king" himself), just like Trump's last term I think.

SaoPaulo41

So what will this week bring ? More doom and gloom? Potential rays of light? Or start of job losses ?

Economics101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331524#Comment_123331524

When the Democrats don't have the Presidency, the Senate, or the House, there is always very likely to be no "leader". Its not like here or the UK where there is always a leader of the opposition. If the Democrats flip the House in 2026, the new House leader will be the de facto Democratic party leader, and will have a big influence on the outcome of the process for chosing the next Presidential candidate.

This has more to do with the structure of the US Constitution than the Democratic party's strategy.

sock.rocker*

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331617#Comment_123331617

It isn't a bad idea just because Musk said it. The TTIP was generally supported across Ireland and the EU when it was being proposed as far as I remember.

RickBlaine

If Biden had caused a 4000 point drop in the DOW and then f*cked off to Delaware for a break, the GOP would be calling for impeachment, and rightly so frankly.

It is bad enough that Trump's stupidity caused this economic crisis, but for him to spend the weekend golfing in one of his sham tournaments is even worse, it is a blatant dereliction of duty.

Emblematic

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331150#Comment_123331150

I don't think he's pandering to the ultra-rich in this instance. The ultra-rich tend to want global free trade. Musk would be an example of this calling for zero tariffs between the US and EU.

10000maniacs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123330699#Comment_123330699

As a matter of interest, where are you getting your Pre-market trading information?

The Pre-market trading information on CNN is from Friday.

thereiver

I read at slate.com. Trump is extending tax cuts from 2017 of this gets thru Congress it will increase. America,s. Trillion dollar debt by 30 percent .His tariffs are crashing the stock market and reducing the value of the dollar . The problem is business leaders and CEO ,s are afraid of trump afraid to speak truth to power and say tariffs are a disaster for consumers and business and increase inflation .

America is heading for a recession stagflation caused by trumps bizarre economic policys that make no sense that any economic expert

Sierra Oscar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331900#Comment_123331900

Bloomberg, the volumes are small though. The full pre-market futures become available in just under eight hours and will provide a much better picture.

10000maniacs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331922#Comment_123331922

Do you have the link?

The web page that shows they are getting hammered.

It would be interesting to see it.

Thanks

looksee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331883#Comment_123331883

I was not thinking of the tariffs suiting the rich, just his general intention of raising money to cut their taxes. I think the tariffs are just about his ego. He already established earlier this year that the structure of the public service could not cope with tariffing China, so how he expects to cope with the whole world I have no idea.

Nody

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123331617#Comment_123331617

Except you assume he cares about domestic production etc. as a basis for tariffs; for him it's all about getting income to offset his tax deductions for the rich to get his budget through congress & senate (to many republicans who are non-Trumpers to vote through anything he wants including borrowing for tax discounts).

kneemos

Heard one theory it's a tactic for himself and his buddies to short sell and buy up stock at basement prices.

yagan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123332010#Comment_123332010

Or as charlie munger stated Trump is just bat shít crazy.

AbusesToilets

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123332010#Comment_123332010

This is it. Would fit the agenda of those tech billionaires pushing for the dissolution of the nation state into corporate run serfdom Network States

greyday

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123332010#Comment_123332010

where that falls down is that American equities were over priced, some event had to happen to bring them back to normal levels, buying now would not be the smartest move, at 22 times future earnings they were very expensive and were priced in for perfection over the next 5 years, Buffet went into cash over the last 18 months which in itself was a sign things had gone beyond frothy in the market, if it wasn’t trump it would be something else, this will end trump but any of his mates buying now will be taking risk that he now can’t control.