Diesel Car For Sister

Mad_Lad

Max budget 10,000.

Is this milage to be believed ? anyone know anything about this dealer ?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/kia-ceed-2012-very-low-mileage/36990376

What about this ?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/peugeot-2008-2015-nct-29-05-25/36932004

Or this

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/peugeot-3008-low-mileage-active-1-6hdi-115-4dr/36847016

And this

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2015-kia-ceed-ceed-1-isg-crdi/36555959

User1998

I know the first dealer, he helped me out with some paperwork before for VRT. Seems like a nice guy. I’d still run a history check etc to verify mileage tho.

NIMAN

Surprised you haven't persuaded her to buy a 1 litre petrol Ceed! 😉

Mad_Lad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122180039#Comment_122180039

Ah she could do with a petrol but obsessed with and insists on diesel, it will save her loads of money in her mind but anyway whatever she wants so I search for diesel.

Mad_Lad

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Mad_Lad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122180025#Comment_122180025

She's suspicious of the low mileage, can we really trust the car check ?

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122180063#Comment_122180063

If the history check, nct sheets, and service history checks out then theres no reason not to trust it.

Mehaffey1

As above if all checks come back clean and it looks/feels/drives pretty tightly then no reason to doubt. A Kia Cee'd of that year is a car where low mileage may not be a shocker.

Mad_Lad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122180077#Comment_122180077

Thanks, yeah that's what I though, I'll see if she will check it out, at least take a look.

Mad_Lad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122180162#Comment_122180162

Thanks, yeah, it's worth a look. It's a Dublin reg so could have been used mostly for school runs and shops.

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/a180-1-5cdi-manual-only-passed-nct-07-25/36523848

Could consider the Mercedes A class,

Mad_Lad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122180243#Comment_122180243

That might be worth a look, thanks.

I also spotted this a lot closer to home , low mileage, seems genuine from looking at the NCT cert.

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/citroen/c4/fpa/3685734?journey=Search

She's a very difficult Woman to assist buying cars, maybe all Sisters are the same lol.

Charles Babbage

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122180169#Comment_122180169

Likely the person who bought it originally had the same idea about needing to a buy a diesel "to save money".

Murt2024

Yea Kia Creed be a good car, was going to recommend Skoda but they all have massive mileage.

colm_mcm

I wouldn’t be focussing on buying a modern diesel with incredibly low mileage.

Mad_Lad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122180964#Comment_122180964

Yeah, well sis is convinced Diesel will save her and petrol will empty her account but she doesn't take into account that the last time she drove a petrol she was commuting long distance and she's not now and wants a diesel on the "I might have to commute again" and she has to commute to luas in City West 1 day a week and even if she had to drive to the luas 5 days a week would mean, Naas to City west ? I keep telling her she doesn't need a Diesel for this.

All the stuff she's looking at has high mileage and I showed her some low mileage petrols and no, straight away, she'd rather the high mileage diesel to save her loads, head banging off wall !

I see a Dacia Sandero in Carlow for 75,000 Kms 8,000 Euro, those Renault diesels are ultra reliable too. She'll probably turn her nose up at it because it's a dacia but they're everywhere for good reason too you can buy a new one for around 16K, granted it's basic but that's what a lot of people want, A to B transport none of this electronic sh*1 and gadgets.

And most of the dealers shut at lunch on Saturday's so another day wasted……..

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/dacia/sandero/fpa/3614639?journey=Search

Mad_Lad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122180973#Comment_122180973

I'd rather she got a lower mileage petrol to be honest because in reality she doesn't need a Diesel to go from Naas once a week to City West Luas and even if she has to go 5 days it's not worth paying more for a high mileage diesel in my opinion but time is ran out today as by the time I get to Nass to pick her up to go look at some cars they'll all be shut for the weekend.

Told her to make a short list but it is now a long list lol.

What about a lower mileage C4 Diesel ?

NIMAN

I'd advise her to get a low mileage petrol and leave it at that.

If she wants to buy a diesel which isn't suited to her needs, I'd let her at it. Tell her she's making the wrong choice and let her go on her own.

Some people can't be talked to.

BrianD3

The Renault 1.5 DCi is ultra reliable or at least some of them are. The 2009-2010 Megane Mk3 86 bhp that sold in their thousands in the scrappage scheme of the time have no DPF and no DMF. Coming up to 600k kms on mine and the only repairs I've had are wear and tear with suspension etc. No electrical problems. No engine problems. No rust.

Mad_Lad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181021#Comment_122181021

Yeah the DCi engines have a great rep, so if she wanted a high mileage one might not be so bad but all depends on how well it was looked after like anything I suppose.

I sent her a link to a captur DCi, around 150,000 if I remember correctly and she said " I don't want SUV " I said, it's not an SUV it's a taller hatchback, ffs, she's driving me nuts !

The Sandero in Carlow though 73 K miles 8 K would be worth a look at that price.

Mad_Lad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181020#Comment_122181020

I'd love to show her this hahaha.

Yea I told her already multiple times but she just doesn't get that she's not driving from the carlow end of Kildare to Sandyford Industrial estate any more and she did this in a 2002 1.2 petrol Clio she got cheap at the time. There's a big difference from that than from Naas to Citywest Luas lol

Can't be talked to is right !

User1998

If anything it should be an electric car she should be buying. Seems to suit her use case perfectly?

Me personally I wouldn’t even entertain the idea of a diesel but I know what people can be like.

teediddlyeye

I've managed to convince a couple of family members not to buy diesel. Such an uphill struggle in Ireland. They were thankfull in the long run!

As said above, best thing to do is let her off on her own.

Naas to Citywest is 19km, thats long enough to build up soot in a DPF but not long enough to burn it off again. Who will get the blame when it poops itself?

The cheapest leaf will do that return trip with plenty to spare!

BrianD3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181059#Comment_122181059

I wouldn't be too concerned about how well looked after it was. I'm talking about the 2009-2010 DCis here. Lack of DPF means much less potential for "dieselgeddon" or "short journey" problems. It also means they are not fussy about what oil goes into them.

Mad_Lad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181088#Comment_122181088

No electric, and the range of an older Leaf for example wouldn't be at all suitable because she does take longer trips from time to time and if she wants to go even further it would be a pain in the arse. I mean, her commute isn't long to the Luas and back but longer trips would be a pain, they are very slow to charge at chargers too and older ones would take the same time for even shorter range, I wouldn't do that to my worst enemy.

You just can't beat filling up in 2 or 3 mins for up to 1100 Km range, you really can't and not having to worry about charging or extra planning and all that bolloc*s, maybe in 15 years time, who knows.

Mad_Lad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181131#Comment_122181131

what about 2012-2015 ish years ?

Mad_Lad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181122#Comment_122181122

A leaf is fine for that if you have access to a 2nd ICE car, she doesn't and an old Leaf in reality would be completely unsuitable as a main car, even a new 60 Kwh one is a stretch.

+ she can't put a charge point where she parks actually as she doesn't own the space and has no driveway, forgot about that.

BrianD3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181221#Comment_122181221

I've only known a couple of people with 1.5 DCi Renaults from that era and they don't seem to have problems but cars from 2011 on do have DPFs so I'd be more wary of them.

I have experience of the 2.0 DCi in a Nissan from that era, DPF and it was troublesome despite being only used for long journeys and getting the correct oil etc.

Mad_Lad

I'm not really going to recommend the puretech or ecotech engines due to the wet belts, I know most of the issues are related to poor maintenance, a lot of things are. But it removes a lot of otherwise good options, it's too risky and I know ford fixed it around 2020 but before that it's too risky.

manufacturers are really making a lot of crap these days and there's the Opel 1.6 Diesel timing chain issue that costs a lot to fix, the gearbox and all has to come out to replace it, absolutely nuts.

User1998

What about a Hybrid? Prius, Insight etc

Mad_Lad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181356#Comment_122181356

Yeah, hadn't really come up because they're petrol, not sure I would recommend, they're good but at high mileage things can go wrong, rather, with age more than mileage. Not sure she'd be prepared to take on that risk. It's hard enough to get a mechanic these days, don't know maybe the crappy to fix modern cars are making them exit the trade or maybe people are just keeping their cars longer ?

She wants a manual too, I can understand that, I don't live those CVT boxes.

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181381#Comment_122181381

Not at all. Japanese hybrids are the most reliable cars on the road. Theres a reason all the taxi drivers use them. Way more reliable than anything that has been posted here. Just tell her the tax is only €170 and the fuel consumption is better than diesel around town, she might go for it.

Mad_Lad

Here's some I think would be good. I know, gone from diesel to petrol lol.

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/hyundai/i10/fpa/3627357?journey=Search

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/opel/corsa/fpa/3724758?journey=Search

Not sure if this is a puretech ?

https://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/peugeot/308/fpa/3548959?journey=Search

Mad_Lad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181393#Comment_122181393

Yeah they're a reliable car but if something went wrong she might have quite costly repairs + it being off the road a long time. I don't know, I'll mention it to her and see what she says but she's not keen on Hybrid or EV to begin with.

My prius was mostly reliable, a MK II sold it with just over 200,000 Kms, not mega mileage, there were some recalls and it had suspension issues but that can happen any car. The paint on it was very thin and again, that CVT box………..4

It will be interesting to hear what she has to say though.

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181021#Comment_122181021

The Mercedes A Class has a Renault 1.5 diesel engine, 70 mpg, and very reliable.

colm_mcm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181003#Comment_122181003

if I was going French I’d look at something with a 1.5 dci engine. I don’t think she needs a diesel either but if she’s set on it, a Euro 5 1.5 dci is as safe bet as you can get in a modernish diesel.

prawnsambo

I reckon a VW ID3 would be perfect for her. Lots going cheap from poor sods who got mired in the PCP hamster wheel.

_H80_GHT

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122180888#Comment_122180888

We don't allow the women in our house to buy their own cars as this would be such a typical thing for them to do. Saved us and them mountains of headaches (and money).

Mad_Lad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122181528#Comment_122181528

I didn't know, interesting, thanks.

selectamatic

As above the 1.5dci is a decent bet.

1.4d4d auris or Yaris be worth a look too. They're pretty good at avoiding hassle with emissions stuff.

Mad_Lad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122182550#Comment_122182550

Thanks, yeah I've told her already the 1.5 DCi is a good engine but she has my head fried, she had loads of time to have had shortlisted some cars I had sent her links to loads to short list to view today, told her I'd drive her on account of not having a car as her old 308 Diesel is knackered. Told her last night have a list ready and we'd go have a look.

today arrives and no shortlist, told her to pick out 3 cars, but she ends up going to some local dealers not even knowing what they had and surprise surprise, nothing within her budget.

Sisters are nuts !

colm_mcm

Sometimes its better to just step back and watch.

hotrodder

I have a 231 Corolla and it a great car. Previous car was a diesel Corolla and was bullet proof

Mad_Lad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122185043#Comment_122185043

yep, you're right, no more input from me, if she askes me to look at some cars i will, that's about it.

Mad_Lad

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122185051#Comment_122185051

yeah good cars alright, i haven't noticed them though in the searches, might narrow the filter down to just carolla and see what comes up.

edit

Actually I know now, I was searching hatchback, she said she didn't want saloon……

colm_mcm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122185132#Comment_122185132

for smaller budget you’d need to include Auris in your search filters.

Mad_Lad

yep she

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122185483#Comment_122185483

Yep, she was looking at auris but most of them were big mileage in Dublin/Kildare/carlow area she's looking.

Mad_Lad

Had a look at 3 cars yesterday with my Sister.

The 1st was a 1.4 Diesel Auris 164,000 Kms 2013, he said he'd let it go for 8k, test drove it, seemed fine could tell it had a hard enough life due to the interior and there was a nasty smell of cigarette smoke so that was a no for sure.

Test drove a 2nd Auris, 102,000 Kms 2013 1.4 diesel, it was in much better condition, 1 owner. NCT up in October but said he would run it through himself in October and will put it in writing, he was offering 6 month warranty or 10,000 kms which I though was quite reasonable. Sis likes it, I told her if she wants a diesel it's probably the best she'll find locally, between Carlow and Nass probably.

He has it down for 11,500 but said he'd let it go for 10,500 because he admitted it won't sell as everyone now seems to want the PCP on a new car.

She was concerned about the mileage because it will be her first car in Kms lol, I told her it's only around 63,000 miles, nothing on a Toyota diesel.

I'd be expecting to pay 8,000 for an 11 year old car but those days are gone due to Brexit and most dealers are taking the p1ss with 2nd hand prices, Carlow is a mental rip off for 2nd hand cars and they have so many they can't sell because they are far too expensive.

We also had a look at a megane , sh1t box and clutch was gone lol.

I have to do the car check yet.

Lewis_Benson

Let her off to buy herself, you can't be blamed if anything goes wrong, whoch ianqjat it sounds like will be the case.

User1998

€10,500 for an 11 year old diesel Auris? You can buy them privately for half that

extra-ordinary_

OP…show her this thread…plenty knowledgeable strangers on the internet with no axe to grind…maybe she'll take a hint.