Teenager given 16 months for raping a 6 year-old

dublincc2

I am absolutely enraged at this. A 17 year-old has been jailed for just 16 months for being ye most horrific sexual assault on a 6 year-old boy. 16 months. For that. What is going on in this country?

https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0408/1442374-rape-charges/

jimmyrusseII

No words, criminal justice reform seems impossible at this stage.

Vote4Squirrels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121993617#Comment_121993617

16 months so realistically out in 8? For that??

What a country.

greasepalm

Dont think they like rapists like this in jail ??

GerardKeating

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121993625#Comment_121993625

It's a effectially a suspended sentance

Vote4Squirrels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121993646#Comment_121993646

It is! For rape of anyone it’s a vile sentence bit a 6 year old child ??

He’ll do that again as he gets older, it’s inevitable. And it wasn’t Nolan presiding!!

Be right back

Absolutely shocking. It seems the judge was more focused on the impact of this on the offender rather than the little boy.

Vic_08

"The judge adjourned sentencing on the second offence until after his
18th birthday because the law does not allow for suspended sentences in
the case of juveniles. Mr Justice Paul McDermott criticised the absence
of legislation to allow for suspended sentences for child offenders and
said the process would be a lot more straightforward if the law was
changed."

Tells you all you need to know about the priorities these despicable pieces of human filth we have on the bench in Ireland have. Manipulating an already ludicrously lenient system so he could give the rapist of a child an even shorter spell in prison.

If you want justice in Ireland then do it yourself, you won't be getting it inside a courtroom.

JP Liz V1

Name Shame Castration and Life in A Pit is even too good a punishment

nolivesmatter

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058345733/teenager-given-16-months-for-raping-a-6-year-old

From reading the article it seems the offender was 13/15 and the victim was 6-9 at when the rapes happened. I'm not saying that makes it any better, just simply that reading the OP gives the impression it was a 17 assaulting a 6 year old. Either way the court is clearly not nearly heavy handed enough here. As usual.

pjohnson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121993630#Comment_121993630

I'm sure he'll be in an expensive high security area to keep him safe.

arctictree

So the judge can criticise the government/legislation. Does this work the other way around ie can the Government criticise judges sentencing?

igCorcaigh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121994201#Comment_121994201

This seems to be an unusual and complex case.

He was 13 years old when the offending began and continued until he was 15. The victim was aged between six and nine at the time.

I don't think hysterical calls for castration are appropriate.

https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0408/1442374-rape-charges/

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121993630#Comment_121993630

They seem very favourable towards them in the legal chambers.

OrangeBadger

Wait till he gets out, plenty of time to plan it

Everlong1

Could be worse. "Judge"Martin Nolan would have let him walk of the court with the full sentence suspended.

earlyevening

"He said the appropriate sentence was one of three years with the final 20 months suspended, but the dilemma was created by a lack of legislation to allow for suspended sentences in juvenile cases. Judge McDermott said to enable him to impose a suspended sentence he would adjourn sentence on the second conviction until after the boy's 18th birthday."

There's a second sentence coming.

BorneTobyWilde

I guess there has to be a balance between justice and punishment for someone who was a child when it happened, the punishment some would seek would make them deserving of an even more severe punishment than the defendant. There is no happy outcome in such cases, one can only hope lessons are learned, as you simply can't undo the harm, whether its 16 months, or 16 years.

893bet

Both kids.

Can either of them come back from it is the question?

And how do you prevent this from occurring rather than worry about punishing it after the fact.

Rothko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121994905#Comment_121994905

There should be no difference whatsoever in the sentence between a teenager and a fully grown adult, for a crime like that. Someone of that age knows that what they're doing is wrong. There are no excuses for it.

Mrs OBumble

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121994957#Comment_121994957

The teenager's parents should have been the ones on trial.

They made him, they need to take the responsibility.

Be right back

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121995147#Comment_121995147

What? Seriously?

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121993689#Comment_121993689

that’s the problem now. The perpetrator and their wellbeing in these cases often seem to trump that of the victim, their family and the general public.

No doubt the ‘mintil hilth’ angle was exploited to influence and enable this crazy idiotic level of leniency…

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121995085#Comment_121995085

Yea, there are no excuses, I agree fully.

batman75

Disgraceful sentence but are we surprised. That poor child has a lifetime of mental anguish ahead of him. I can't bear to think of the physical torment he went through. The 17 year old should be castrated by whatever means necessary. He is clearly a danger to society and has no moral scruples.

The least the state owe the young child is to make every psychological expertise available to him and his family. I can't imagine the anguish they are enduring. As a parent you seek to protect your child from harm. It must haunt them that their child was subjected to such a monstrous attack. I hope they too get help and don't blame themselves.

Not sure naming and shaming the perpetrator serves any real purpose outwit vengeance. He is still legally a child. But he definitely needs to have his sex drive removed. As is he is a danger to society. His horrific attack to my minds means he has lost the right to enjoy a sex life and heaven forbid he should get the chance to procreate.

Mrs OBumble

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121995157#Comment_121995157

Yes, seriously .

He was 13 when it started. A 13 year old child must have received some seriously fùcked up parenting for that to have happened.

Loveinapril

He may have had access to porn while too young to process it properly. I work with children at risk and have trained with an organisation who work with sex offenders under the age of 18. It is shocking how detached young people can become to their sexual gratification and its impact on the victim.

893bet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121995464#Comment_121995464

it’s the type of simplistic reactionary view typical of your bumbling posting.

Not saying the parents are not culpable. Perhaps they are. But Who who knows the background to state absolutes.

Vote4Squirrels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121995464#Comment_121995464

Or he could have had every possible advantage as a child and just be pure evil, the point is we can’t say with certainty.

volchitsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121995505#Comment_121995505

This, I think.

Not so long ago, a child showing inappropriately sexualised conduct (I'd include sexual interest in 6 year-olds in that) would have been a massive red flag for that child being a victim of sexual abuse themselves. Now early access to porn means that many many children are now showing those behaviours to varying degrees. That means that in practice it's no longer just a few children who are the victims of inappropriate exposure to sex, it's a whole generation.

Unless we fix that, this problem is going to increase. Sadly, I don't think it's going to happen because too many adults prefer to prioritise their own discreet access to porn over child safety.

donaghs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121993630#Comment_121993630

We should never rely on other prisoners as our justice system. It just helps perpetuate violence inhumanity in jails in general. The guy who imports garlic as apples is a prisoner too.

They justice system should have proper sentencing and monitoring after.

Don’t sex offenders get their own prisons? Eg arbour Hill . Or prison wings.

Not sure how it works with juvenile detention though. Less places like Oberstown.