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Calling all insomniacs….

  • 08-04-2024 2:41am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭


    why you no sleep…..?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,047 ✭✭✭con747


    When you find the answer let me know.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,578 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Itchy as ****. Reacting to the glue in a surgical dressing that has to stay there. Losing what was left of my sanity.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,208 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    The dog was barking.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,964 ✭✭✭gifted


    Thinking will i go back to the office this coming friday to send a "I'm leaving " email or will i just send it from my personal email?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭Field east


    anyone know what causes it and how to partially/ fully address it. I sleep like a ‘rock’ for 4 to 5 hours. Nothing would wake me but after that I am awake/in a kind of comatose position -neither asleep or awake- until 7am when I get up. I yawn a bit during the day and could very light sleep two or three times during the day if indoors ,non the couch. They say such a lack of sleep is not good for your health



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭drury..


    A lot of insomniacs would be v happy with 5hrs a nite



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 896 ✭✭✭taxAHcruel


    Too many things can cause it therefore too many things could also potentially fix it. It can be Diet. Stress. Hormones. Sleep patterns. Sleep rituals. Your physical and/or exercise life. Age. Sleep disturbances like sleep apnea. Or simply you have generally a lower sleep need naturally. And much more.

    Also tiredness during the day and needing yawns and naps can be related to not getting enough sleep at night. But they can also be unconnected and have their own causes from the list I gave above.

    Worse it might not even be 1 cause but a combination of 2 or more.

    So really you would have to look at everything. Try lots of things. And see what works for you.

    I notice last Wednesday there was a three hour interview on the Hubermann Podcast with sleep expert Dr. Matthew Walker. That might be a good place to start. It could maybe inspire some changes that make sense to you personally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    I notice last Wednesday there was a three hour interview on the Hubermann Podcast with sleep expert Dr. Matthew Walker. That might be a good place to start.

    I didn't find it very helpful. I started listening, looking forward to getting some tips, but I dozed off after 15 minutes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭biketard


    To add to what taxAHcruel said, things that have personally caused me insomnia are caffeine (it turns out I am very sensitive to it and even a coffee after lunch can affect my sleep that night [even chocolate can affect it, actually]), stress (as mentioned already), and alcohol.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,986 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison


    yeah coffee is a b1tch on sleep - I know my limits - big strong cup early morning and that’s it - I LOVE coffee but it’s a total sleep killer and can drain you of energy - nothing nicer than a really good expresso after a meal but again if at nighttime I decline it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,268 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,136 ✭✭✭Beric Dondarrion


    Suffer from insomnia, reckon its anxiety or stress that's at fault for me….fierce worrier about stuff that hasn't or probably wont happen.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,226 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    You can buy melatonin over the counter in the Netherlands. Not here of course. The doctor will see yo now, after a month+ waiting… that will be €60+, thanks, ker-ching.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,846 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    ******* coffee

    I just know if I drink it, I will have a crap sleep. Also screens late at night

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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    Last night after settling in, herself nodded of pretty quick, as usual. I was left in a semi awake, not fully sleeping state. I fought it for a while because I was unsure what time it was when I was the most awake but eventually I leaned up enough to reach over to the bottle of melatonin I had on the night table. Took one out and had a sip of water. That was the last thing I remember. Worked a treat.

    I usually take one before bed but forgot this time and was in the semi sleep state by the time I realised. Thought I could force through it but reaching for the melatonin was the best move after all.

    I'm not sure about Ireland but here in Canada you can get it at supermarkets.

    Edit: This is not medical advise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,057 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I had trouble sleeping but a few years ago I tried a Nytol tablet and it gets me 5/6 hours sleep and that works for me. The Nytol might not work for others though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Scipri0


    My sleep is nasty. I go to bed and then stay awake for 2–3 hours before i fall off and then i could stay asleep for about 40 minutes and wake again and that can happen around 4–5 times in a night. I stayed asleep for most of the night, a few months back and woke the next day and felt amazing, so i can see what i'm missing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,226 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Bananas contain an essential amino acid called Tryptophan. Your body can't make it and it can only be obtained from foods. In the presence of vitamin B6 the body can use tryptophan to synthesise both serotonin and melatonin. I take tryptophan and B6 in the morning and sleep well and no longer have a problem waking during the night and having difficulty getting back to sleep. I normally drink around 3 espressos a day.

    Sunshine also appears to play an important role in stimulating the production of melatonin, but in this wretched country it's an unfortunately rare commodity.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭drury..


    Ya but the gas thing is some can drink it before bed and nod off when they hit the pillow



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭drury..


    Kept me awake , someone else said same thing

    An odd diazapem is nice but not anything regular

    Melatonin did nothing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Did you sleep well?
    Yes - I got eight hours!
    Last night?
    No - last week….

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    That sounds like an ADHD thing - late night stimulants have no effect on it.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,336 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    We have a Sleeping and Dreaming forum in the Science category that has several threads that deal with sleep problems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Ah yes, but do you have a not-sleeping forum, eh? No? Well this is a bit of a pointless observation then, if you don't mind me saying so?!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,336 CMod ✭✭✭✭Fathom


    Are the OP and other posters seeking solutions to sleeping problems?

    There are several threads that cover sleeping problems, such problems that have existed for years, along with suggested solutions. So unless there is a sleeping problem that’s extraordinarily new, the thread topics and replies may have some merit regardless of when they were posted.

    If something extraordinarily new were to appear on the Sleeping and Dreaming forum, experienced forum members have tended to be drawn in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭Mr Disco


    watching it get dark, questioning life choices then watching it get bright again



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,495 ✭✭✭apache


    Pure torture



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,738 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    I notice insomnia occurs more if you are going on a journey abroad next day or in my case working a music festival the following day, I suppose excitement adds to the wakefulness. Another thing that causes sleeplessness I find is dead foot syndrome, anyone suffer that, I get that a few times.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,204 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    stress and anxiety was a cause of mine.

    When I cut that out of my life my sleep reverted to like it was years ago…. I now get 6-8 hours every night. Of course this is all dependent on my little dweeb neighbours behaving which is a lottery….

    Can’t put value on good sleep..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 ✭✭✭moonage


    If you lay down right on the edge of the bed you'll soon drop off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,738 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭thereiver


    Go for a walk for an hour or cycle for 40 minutes during the day ,even being slightly tired helps you to sleep .i listen to a slightly boring podcast and set timer to 40 minutes .eg a bbc history podcast eg in out time ,

    dont drink coffee or tea after 10pm. caffiene keeps you awake .

    https://www.google.com/search?q=bbc+history+podcasts&rlz=1C1YTUH_enIE1028IE1028&oq=bbc+history+podcast&aqs=chrome.0.0i512j69i57j0i512l4j0i22i30l4.5591j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    10pm?!

    I have two cups before noon and a tea between 2 and 4pm. Usually no more caffeine after that.

    I'll reiterate how much melatonin helps me. Crazy it's not over the counter in Ireland.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,986 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison


    Yeah I could have a “strong” cup of home brewed coffee around 2pm and sometimes id still be wide awake come bedtime - I reckon it’s because I don’t know just how strong the stuff I’m making really is.

    Coffee definately out for people with insomnia - I think you can do all the good stuff like exercise, not eating after 6pm etc etc and still suffer from it - it’s a real mental battle in many cases- a peaceful mind aids a peaceful sleep but easier said than done



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Day Lewin


    Insomnia fluctuates; various patterns at various times. Lately it's been waking at about 3.30 and then soon noticing that it's becoming daylight already!

    Broad daylight by 5 am but at least I got to watch the foxes on the early-morning patrol.

    For tonight, I'll skip the chocolate. But really, no matter what I blame, insomnia seems to strike at random; it happens for a week, maybe, and then there are other spells when I sleep quite well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,295 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I had to google it , though it is not recommended for people with autoimmune diseases. Pity as it seems to help regulate the body clock



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 744 ✭✭✭marilynrr


    why you no sleep…..?

    ADHD and a long period of stress spanning a few years which means my body/brain is always on standby for the next stressful thing so must stay awake 😂👎️

    'll reiterate how much melatonin helps me

    I like melatonin but it doesn't make me sleep. It is calming though.

    @bodhrandude Never heard of dead foot syndrome, I get restless legs which sounds like the opposite or is that what you meant? 😅



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,268 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I picked up a simple tip from an Irish podcast from a sleep expert, Dr Tom ??? iirc - an eye mask! It's definitely helping me to get back to sleep after waking to go to the loo.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭ekkinak


    Eye mask

    Earplugs

    Go to bed same time every night

    Give up caffeine completely - no coffee, no tea, none of that decaf nonsense, trust me it will change your life



  • Posts: 436 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Not insomnia but I think some people just aren't wired to sleep at the usual times. I've been working regular hours for 13 years, and I just can't get to sleep early enough, no matter how tired I am. Whereas I sleep soundly when I have a nap during the day. Maybe I should consider shift work but I did it prior to 11 years ago, and it's depressing!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,204 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    tonight, I am not sleepy.

    My mindset… I’m happier tonight then in years, I don’t have a single worry or stress. Tomorrow will be gym & my Friday night takeaway followed by a movie and feet up…and if time start a book I’ve been meaning to get into.

    Other nights in another lifetime I’m sitting here worrying about stuff, not relaxed.

    I’m just not wired for regular sleep. All started when I lived abroad. Can’t explain it, have enough happy distractions..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Guffy


    My daughter woke me to tell me she couldn't sleep



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭wandererz


    Oooh, just saw this now. Will be there in a few weeks for a week. Will indeed stock up.

    I wonder if my bag will be pulled for 365 tabs?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭wandererz


    Have you found anything that works?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,841 ✭✭✭jackboy


    I thought melatonin was debunked as a sleep aid and is actually bad for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭wandererz


    Don't rightly know. But it seemed to help me in the states and when flying from the US to Europe.

    At the moment (and for a long time now) I'm getting a max of 1hr sleep at a time. Then it's another hour or two before falling asleep again.



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