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Beef grazing 2024

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,864 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    I’d let them out onto that. There’ll be a meadow there in the spring otherwise. The longer weanlings stay outside the better imo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭limo_100


    il get them weaned so and back out on that will be able to hold them out until near Xmas so silage saved and everything. I won’t be giving them any silage or hay but I don’t think they will need that would I be right? Wonder would I be better quitting the feeder aswel and just give them 2-3kg of nuts a day instead?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Who2


    hay is good to keep them from getting too loose on grass this time of year. You will be surprised how much they will eat even with good grass , if your weaning and leaving them out I’d leave the creep with and it should stand to them. What’s the few extra kilos going to amount to over a few weeks?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,864 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    it’s the work involved that’d put me off it. Always Did it here with weanlings I bought in but for the last three years it’s no meal until they go into the house. It hasn’t made any difference to their housing weight after the second summer on grass and that’s the one that counts for me.
    It is a good way of herding alright and if numbers were small it’s not a big job.
    Ive 60 weanling bulls at the minute outside on grass only and they are getting on the finest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,913 ✭✭✭50HX


    Outside all day long

    Way better for them & they'll hit ground faster when grass shoots in spring.

    Ration,minerals & as suggested hay or silage to them & they will do finest.

    Use always outwinter the weanlings here b4



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭limo_100


    actually checked them today and surprisingly there dung is fine. I would put them in for a few days to wean them handiest way to do it I find.

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    actually very happy with most of my Calves one or two might be the wrong breed 🤣 but there still good calves overall. I will leave the feeder with them so think it would stand to them. Some of the heifers are 300kg so maybe keep the feeder and get the ai next may.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭limo_100


    Used to out winter some bucket calves over the years but it seems like out wintering is a bad word these days no-one seems to do it anymore and your frowned upon if you do 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    the weather is the enemy of out wintering. No fun in looking at animals huddled in a corner with humps on their backs and walking around in slop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭morphy87


    Have many of you stock out away, places are getting a little messy here now, certain fields very damp and a bit of cutting up around gaps, we got a nice bit of rain last night



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭older by the day


    I must order some nuts in bulk his week Probably 15% hi maize. Any prices. Il go nuts as I have a crow problem at the moment



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Housed the Cows and Weanlings here on Saturday. Plan is dose all for fluke with Fluconix around Christmas (6 weeks).

    Should I be giving anything else to them particularly the calves/weanlings. Calves/Weanlings got Dectomax in middle of September.

    Tia



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Everything housed between Friday afternoon and Saturday, all be it with 40 in already

    Dosed all growing stock as there a good bit of lungworm coughing and I was holding off until they were in the yard. All weighed and backs and tails clipped and sorted to pens. Busy busy day

    I will dose for fluke in 2-3 weeks time with endofluke. (Fasinex generic) Also blitz everything for lice around the same time in each shed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    exact same ritual here regarding dowsing, tails and backs. Always dose 2-3 weeks after housing with endofluke. It gets all the stages of fluke then and it’s a cheap dose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,864 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    In around €300 for a good high maize nut blown into a bin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭older by the day




  • Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭WoozieWu


    maybe some minerals if youa re keeping them long term



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Yes will be keeping them till next September/October



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭minerleague


    Have the home place paddocked ( 4-5 days for suckler cows and calves) but when it comes to this time of year the cows would be bawling at you and standing at gap next day wanting to be moved despite having grass, so what do people do? split the paddocks to 1 or 2 days and keep moving?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭limo_100


    Is it ok to worm dose the calves as they go to the shed With ivomac or do I need to wait to allow the worms to mature to get them all?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    The mectins give a bit of a kill for longer and coverage for a few weeks approx 2-3. The break of housing will stop cattle picking up parasites with the exception of lice. I dosed with a generic ivermectin on entry to the shed but had a bit of hose for the past 2 weeks .

    Fluke I would let it mature a bit more to have an effective kill

    Lice it's make sure to treat all stock in the same shed in the same day. Keep a close eye 3-4 weeks later and any bit of a sign hit again to kill the hatched larve

    Post edited by mr.stonewall on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭memorystick


    I’ve a batch of 6 month old calves out still. Would they be better off in? No feed in grass and have sheep grazing ground so not worried about covers not being cleaned off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,671 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    If you have a bale of hay or haylage stick it out in the field with them. Admittedly cold spell over the next week is an ideal housing opportunity. However young cattle tend to do better outside if they have the right feed

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭memorystick


    I know they’d be better but I’m not out until 7 o’clock at night. I’ve loads of space and straw. How are lads for silage? Some very mixed prices on DD. I’ve over 100 to sell I’d say



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,671 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    If you have straw all the better bake of Oaten or barley straw in a feeder, however wheat will do. For 20 calves like that outside you are probably saving a bale of silage every two days and that is if 30DM+ silage. Pain feeding them meal outside. A bale of straw will last the bones of a week at a guess. If not place a bake in the feeder on a Thursday or Friday evening and top it up Sunday

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭Sami23


    I'd imagine be better wait a few weeks as enough stress going on with the housing and potential weaning but that's just my opinion - others might disagree.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,864 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    I’d agree there. At this stage I’d wait until mid December and dose with levefas. Should see you covered for everything then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,434 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    Can you tell us what levefas product you use and will all these doses only be available from you local vet trough perscription from Janurary next year on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,864 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    I just use levefas diamond.
    Buying it in the local co-op for the last year or so as the vets haven’t got it.
    Yeah think it’s a prescription from then on.


    Closamectein pour on is also a great product and kills immature fluke afaik and it’s handy to use but costs €2 more a head for a 350 kg weanling. Maybe worth the extra money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭memorystick


    I think I’ll throw a bale of hay into the feeder. I might get another month of them out.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,671 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Grazing season coming to the end. These bullocks are going on kale and oats

    Light heifers still outside. They will get until Christmas I say.

    Turned out a great end of year for grass.

    Slava Ukrainii



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