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4sq vs 6sq electric wire

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  • 21-03-2024 2:25am
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭


    Is there any easy way of telling the difference between the two?

    My garage is connected to the main fuse board of the house by an unmarked black cable that's about 12.5mm thick. There's a sub board in the garage and I've been able to use electrical equipment pulling 6kw at the same time without tripping the fuses in this board. If I loaded it with more draw and the fuses didn't trip would this give me an indication of what it was?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 758 ✭✭✭mikewest


    Cable will be marked somewhere every 1 metre or less. There is not really any other way to tell as there is very little in the diameter difference between the two sizes (0.6mm approx) unless you are comparing solid core with solid core from the same manufacturer.

    (How many strands, strand profile, etc)



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭funnyname


    Thanks, the only marking on the black cable are the following


    prysmian base electric cable 600/1000v bs5467



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭funnyname


    That's the RCD on the house fuse board for the office



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭meercat


    That’s a 25amp mcb so most likely only 4mm cable as that’s what maximum protection rating would be

    if it were a 6mm cable I’d expect to see 32amp protection

    no way of telling on the internet without measuring the csa of the conductor but an experienced electrician could probably tell from seeing the cables on site



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,313 ✭✭✭Tefral


    It if you can see that, its on the opposide side in the middle of everytime one of those comes up. It has to be wrote on the cable.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,296 ✭✭✭tomhammer..


    4 and 6 stranded are not very difficult to differentiate

    There's a big enough difference in the sizes



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,350 ✭✭✭Lenar3556


    Not really, MCB’s have significant overload tolerance.

    12.5mm diameter isn’t a lot. It’s probably an SWA cable and my guess would be 2.5mm2.

    Why do you need to know out of interest?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭funnyname


    I want to put solar panels (4.35kw system) on the office roof, along with a string inverter and then send the excess AC back to the house where a hybrid inverter will decide what to do with that and the what's generated from the panels on the house.



  • Registered Users Posts: 35 GarlicBed


    Not how it works. Your panels need to connect to the inverter. inverter in the office.

    no need for a string & a hybrid.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,654 ✭✭✭10-10-20


    Hi, don't mean to be on your case - all input is appreciated on these forums - but you can do what @funnyname mentioned, but it just wouldn't be an optimised solution as the inverters would not be interconnected.

    Basically the concept is that the office panels and string inverter wouldn't have a CT, so would would generate power from whatever solar energy is available to them, covering the house's base load and the export the remainder to the grid. Separately the hybrid inverter would have a CT and it would use that to manage the battery SOC, taking on charge when export to the grid is occurring and also possibly taking on charge during night-rate periods and contributing to the house load when the string-inverter isn't capable of generating sufficient energy. All very possible in theory, only limited by the micro-generation export limitations on the grid connection which is a sum of the generating capacity of the two inverters.



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