Varadkar: "It's not the state's responsibility (to provide a home and an education)"

Peter Flynt

On The Six O'Clock Show Leo Varadkar stated the following earlier today regarding healthcare, education provision and having a home:

"When they're old I'm gonna make sure they're looked after (his parents).....I'll ensure my nephews and nieces are looked after - they've a home and an education. I don't actually think that's the state's responsibility to be honest. . . "

What exactly does Leo Varadkar think the responsibility of the state is given that 50%+ tax is paid at such a low rate in Ireland?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1764728142936109211

Witcher

Nobody is paying 50% tax and certainly not '50%+'.

Furthermore it's not the state's responsibility, otherwise we'd all down f'ing tools and get free houses.

buried

When he says "the state", he clearly means him. This is the same gadge who likes to yabber on about how much Kylie Minogue made such a difference to his existence.

He's right, he should be responsible for nothing. Because he's literally a child.

Peter Flynt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851114#Comment_121851114

What does PAYE, USC & PRSI add up to beyond €40,000?

It's the state's responsibility to provide for housing.

Housing crisis explained right there

Ha Long Bay

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851154#Comment_121851154

17%

https://salaryaftertax.com/ie/salary-calculator

Peter Flynt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851190#Comment_121851190

Do you know what the word beyond means?

Ha Long Bay

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851199#Comment_121851199

Is €41000K beyond €40000?

Strumms

I just really wish that the people of Dublin West would ninja this individual into the political history books.

so not the state’s responsibility that people have access to healthcare, housing or an education….? Maybe Leo might put his mind to describing what responsibilities that state does have towards its people and citizens…

Because we pay an awful lot of tax that goes on education, healthcare, housing etc… so might be nice that Irish people can feel they can benefit from that..

id say Leo isn’t long for the world of politics, his mask is slipping. Some of us saw behind it from earlier on, others a lot more gullible.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851154#Comment_121851154

20% rate of income tax exists for income up to €42,000.

Nobody pays effective 50% tax in Ireland.

RoboRat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851247#Comment_121851247

On a salary of €100k, tax due is €36,378, so 36.4%. Obviously there are different bands at various thresholds in that salary, but you're correct for 99% of the population.

If you earned a million, you would be slightly over 50% at €504,603.

The J Stands for Jay

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The J Stands for Jay

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851230#Comment_121851230

It seems to me that whenever someone becomes taoiseach, their electorate so love having their local TD be taoiseach that they will constantly reflect them, no matter how terrible they are. There seems to be a similar, though not as pervasive, effect for ministers.

beggars_bush

It's a comment from a financially secure individual from a family who doesn't rely on the state education, health or housing services

Whereas most of the population....

Scipri0

His family and many in government won't need it, but in the meantime they'll gladly sell out us and this country to set up themselves and their families. At the moment, his government and its policies are holding many people back in life and denying them the chance to have a house of their own or to start families.

Jump_In_Jack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851190#Comment_121851190

By that calculator anyone over 800,000 will have less than 50% take-home pay. That’s ignoring motor tax, property tax and VAT.

On the other hand, I don’t know if many would earn a PAYE salary that high without using tax loopholes to bring it down, or set up a company and contract out their work to avail of lower rates of tax and write off expenses.

So though mathematically possible to pay more than 50% of gross pay to PAYE, USC and PRSI I doubt there’s many if any doing so.

A more relevant salary might be 80,000, which by that calculator would have 55,000 take-home pay, so 32.5% in taxes is what a lot of people would be paying. Most would probably pay into a private pension to avoid some tax.

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851154#Comment_121851154

Good bye credibility in just two sentences! You can’t even get to 50% even by adding none tax items to the mix and do you even know where you might come up with a commitment to housing? There actually is one put its not exactly housing and I very much doubt you know where it is.

Jim2007

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851561#Comment_121851561

No it’s a reflection of the majority of the voters in the country. I don’t agree with the FG/FF politics, but I don’t also play the silly buggers game of pretending that politicians don’t reflect the preferences of their voters either.

Peter Flynt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851207#Comment_121851207

€1000 of it is.....all of which would be taxed at 50%+

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851577#Comment_121851577

Somebody on €80k in 2024 has €25,973 deducted in Income Tax,USC and PRSI. That's less than 33%. Where are you getting 45% from?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851624#Comment_121851624

Completely incorrect. That €1,000 is charged to 20% income tax, 4% PRSI and 4% USC.

I think the problem is that so many people who whinge about tax can't even do the basic math to comprehend what they actually pay.

Peter Flynt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851637#Comment_121851637

Apologies. I meant above €42,000. I didn't realise the little pixies had the threshold recently increased.

Now let's discuss Varadkar's comments where he feels the state is not responsible for education and provision of housing. Want to do that?

Former Former Former

People surely know that his words have been twisted out of all context here.

Like, he’s very clearly saying that families should care for family members in the first instance, and the state steps in when needed.

If he said the opposite, that it’s the state’s job to look after people, the same cnuts would be saying that he’s trying to break up families and big government wants to run our lives.

the level of sheer hatred and stupidity on here is terrifying, and it’s even more terrifying how easily people can be fooled and whipped up into a frenzy by a thirty second clip that’s so obviously been taken out of all context

Peter Flynt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851660#Comment_121851660

There's nothing ambiguous in what LV stated. I literlly quoted him word for word. He went on a monologue on how he'd look after his own family before stating "I don't actually think that's the state's responsibility to be honest. . . ".

If he doesn't feel the state is responsible for something like education he shouldn't be in politics.

sameoldname

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851637#Comment_121851637

Why should facts get in the way of outrage? Also, it's pretty clear that a lot of the whingebags on here don't actually earn enough to pay the high taxation they so bitterly complain about.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851658#Comment_121851658

Pixies?

The standard tax rate band was been increased several times in recent years, and hopefully will continue to do so.

A person like yourself who is so keenly versed on tax surely keeps a close eye on these things?

Former Former Former

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851666#Comment_121851666

You’ve twisted it out of all context.

The guy should be allowed speak his mind without hardline Catholic fundamentalists or far right lunatics tearing him apart or burning down hotels in “protest”

average_runner

Yes we are. Income tax, prsi, universal tax, carbon tax, property tax, vat, tax on insurance, tax on healthcare. Brings it over 50%

Peter Flynt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851679#Comment_121851679

He's allowed to speak his mind, of course. Shame he's a hypocrite as LV and his parents availed of fully funded/state supported primary school as Varadkar attended primary school in Blanchardstown (where he grew up).

Varadkar likes to play the tory boy - it must go down well with the dopes in FG.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851686#Comment_121851686

What tax on healthcare? Healthcare is exempt from VAT.

"Universal tax" doesn't exist.

Thankfully you've avoided the usual "road tax" trope, but don't forget about motor tax.

Would you consider the TV licence a tax too. What about voluntary contributions at schools?

What tax on insurance? Insurance is exempt from VAT. Maybe you're referring to insurance levies?

You could be more specific in your tax rant.

Jump_In_Jack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121851636#Comment_121851636

Distracted while typing, meant 55k not 55%, edited now to correct, thanks.