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Ring's 43% Subscription increase!

  • 09-02-2024 5:08pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,276 ✭✭✭✭


    No doubt like many here, now that Amazon have jacked up the price of the basic Ring sub, from £34.99 to £49.99 per year, I'm switching to locally managed doorbell!


    I've had a reolink in my basket for months but this news was the last straw for me. I plan on running the cable for it over the weekend so I can be up and running quickly when it arrives. I'm already running home assistant and will integrate the new bell with that. I had been planning on a new CCTV system anyway as my ancient NVR just will not integrate with Home Assistant. Amazon/Ring can go whistle if they think I'm spending more money with them for no additional features or functions.

    A question for those in the know re: CCTV and Home Assistant. Can I set up a system with an 8 port POE switch that records to my NAS? Rather than buying a new NVR? Managed via Frigate or similar in Home Assistance?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭Eclectic Econometrics


    What home system will you be using? I have a monitored alarm but I am going to install CCTV and a doorbell and was considering eufy as it is local storage and not subscription.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,464 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Just reading if you want to buy yourself more time if you cancel your current subscription Ring will refund you for whatever you have left on your annual subscription within 11 days and then you can re-subscribe at current price for another 12 months which will allow you to research other options



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer


    RING did this in America a while back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,276 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    My Reolink was delivered this morning. I'm waiting on a reel of CAT5e to arrive before I install it. Plan is to drill 6mm hole in the door frame, run bare end of the cable thru, then crimp on a new NIC connected and then make a nice, and more importantly neat 😉 cable run along the door frame then behind the skirting board to the router.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,194 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Is this Ring sub increase happening in Ireland?

    Mine still looks to be still €39.99 billed yearly renewing in October - as below.

    Haven't gotten any correspondence indicating it'll be changing either.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    Depends on your NAS drive, but it was a feature on a couple of mine that I never used.


    That's a big hike. I pay 55 for one google camera myself. It's just handy casting it around the TV's etc. you don't get the integration on other systems the way Amazon and Google prioritise their products.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,276 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    I installed my new Reolink doorbell today. Located it on the door frame and ran the CAT5e around the frame in a manner that has been thoroughly wife approved 😉 Lovely neat job around the frame and behind the skirting and through the 2nd step of my staircase. Even if I do say so myself 😁

    The Mrs is up and running on the Reolink app and I'm currently getting to grips with YAML code and integration for my HA setup. Hope to eventually get up and running with AI detection integrated on the Doorbell and CCTV.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,514 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Thanks for that, just cancelled and subscribed straight after and got a notification for a refund at the same time as the payment. Only got $16.68 back even though I had 6 months left, must have just entered the next month. Still saving money. Also they're charging me in $ for some reason 🤷🏻‍♂️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭cython


    The announcement (https://support.help.ring.com/hc/en-gb/articles/19761521802772-Price-update-for-Ring-Protect-Basic-on-March-11-2024-GBP) seems to suggest it's only applicable to those paying in GBP or USD, so maybe if you're being billed in EUR you won't get hit this time, but I'd expect it's in the pipeline all the same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    I have the wired ring pro doorbell.

    Anyone know if I buy the Eufy wired doorbell I can use the already installed transformer from the ring doorbell?

    eufy Security Wi-Fi Video Doorbell, 2K Resolution, No Monthly Fees, Local Storage, Human Detection, Wireless Chime Requires Existing Doorbell Wires and Installation Experience, 16-24 VAC, 30 VA https://amzn.eu/d/dKZTr2o



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,276 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    If your power supply for the ring doorbell is 2 wires and capable of 19v? Then yes, the eufy will work.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,276 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    A few days into using the Reolink now and I'm very happy with it. A lot of options and possibilities in setting it up. I currently have a 32gb micro SD in it to record motion captures and bell press.

    Its currently a little too sensitive in reporting people at the door. The settings allow a great deal of adjustment so I'll get it sorted.

    The image quality, esp of IR footage is great. I have my nighttime recording set to IR & colour rather than B&W as the level of detail in colour is far higher.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Morby


    Just wondering if this is affecting customers paying in Euro or not? I can only find articles pertaining to dollars and pounds



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,194 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    They'll have the communicate the price change to customers paying in euro and I haven't heard squat, so assume unaffected until we know otherwise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭Ginger83


    Would anyone be able to recommend a decent wireless option



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,552 ✭✭✭plodder


    I was thinking of getting a Ring alarm system, but I'm not sure about the extra monitoring subscription. Does anyone know if the basic system is still usable in terms of notifications, if the alarm goes off? Can multiple people with the app be notified or only one person etc?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭Eclectic Econometrics


    Sorry I didn't see this earlier, esp. you Ginger.

    I ended up getting the eufy system. I got solar CCTV, doorbell and video storage base station. There is no subscription, so I got my system for what someone will pay in approx. 5 years for a Ring doorbell with €50 PA subscription.

    The solar never needs recharging. One of my cameras is north facing, even in February it maintained 100% battery. It is easy to set-up and configure as to what/where to record. The doorbell, once charged, will last approx. 6 months but is not solar.

    Plodder - I don't know about Ring, but my doorbell app can be used by more than one person.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,902 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    I have a Ring spotlight camera, for a few years now?

    Ring have never charged me a subscription. I had an issue with it at the start and they put me on some sort of "Ring Member Plan" and have never charged me.

    I never questioned it!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    This happened to me also, had it for about 18 months with no charge whatsoever. My entire home network went haywire one day and had to hard reset everything, including the router. When I reconnected the doorbell, I had to sign up and pay for the account.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,902 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    Had to do a hard reset with mine last year (while online with a customer service agent). I'm still not being charged.

    Plus they gave me a 30% off discount code to replace the camera as it was out of warranty.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,080 ✭✭✭✭Tusky


    I know this is an old post, but NYT Wirecutter recommended the Eufy S220. Anyone tried it? Seems to store locally, has no monthly fees and better video quality than Ring.

    https://www.eufy.com/eu-en/products/e8210?variant=39620880990360



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭WildCardDoW


    While it does store locally note the asterisks:

    *If you choose to use cloud-based features such as Cloud Backup or push notifications with thumbnail previews, videos or thumbnail previews will be sent to the cloud as needed to provide your selected features.

    **Push notifications with thumbnail previews require thumbnail preview images to be temporarily stored in the cloud.


    So there's always a risk of a fee for cloud coming in, or removal of cloud based features.

    Anything else out there that doesn't need the cloud at all needs a home server though which is complicated enough so this is probably one of the better options for users that want plug and play.

    Just be aware of the above and also that eufy got a lot of bad press about the security of their devices as well. Can't remember the specifics, but:

    https://www.theverge.com/23573362/anker-eufy-security-camera-answers-encryption



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭Eclectic Econometrics


    You buy a lot of stuff when you buy a house, the eufy system is the one thing I am 100% chuffed with.

    I recently hooked it up to my Amazon Echo Show, too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,039 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    Folks,

    I've had Nest outdoor camera's for about 6 years now. They were grand for their time but I guess I should look at replacing them. The app isn't as accurate to use as it once was. The camera's are affected by the weather and then of course there is the price of the subscription. Add to that, that Google have historically handled hardware badly and well, it's probably time for an upgrade.
    So there are Nest camera's front and rear with a basic TP Link indoor camera covering a blindspot. We also have a Ring doorbell too. One of the reasons I went with Google was because at the time they were the only (I think) mainstream brand that offered CVR, something I'd like to have.
    At this stage of things, I guess the smart solution would be to go PoE, wouldn't it? What was has that worked for people? Is managing cable a nightmare? I'm absolutely terrible when it comes to DIY so would probably need someone to do the wiring.

    Any advice?



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