What's going on with Michelle obama

sxt

The alt right are convinced she's going to put her hat in the ring and run for president 2024

Big moves in the betting where she is now third favourite to be the next President

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2024/winner

Ash.J.Williams

That would be nice

It would be a good thing if she did, but the alt right live in cloud cuckoo land so I have my doubts there is any substance to this.

The alt-right just luv Michelle.

ancapailldorcha

It'd be great to see. Biden has at most one term left so the Democrats will need a good replacement. I think she'd be a good fit.

Hande hoche!

She could be Gavin Newsom's VP pick. The POTUS spouse route didn't work for Hillary.

NIMAN

Anything would be better than the 2 that are looking likely.

briany

Michelle Obama seems like a lovely woman and all, but I don't know if she really has the experience or background necessary. She was First Lady, obviously, but I mean she hasn't really worked as a politician at any lower level. Even Hillary Clinton racked up a few years as a senator before taking a swing at the big job.

Yes, Trump himself shows that prior office isn't really a necessity to be electable, but I'm not sure his example is one to follow.

Having said all of that, Americans seem to care more about charisma than anything else, so I couldn't discount the possibility. It would make the American right-wing go absolutely nuts, for sure.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121740423#Comment_121740423

This isn't really following his example. He's a racist, a liar, a crook, a conman, a fascist, a Nazi and plenty of other things. The qualification argument doesn't exist when tens of millions of Americans want him as their godking.

Sanity is the only qualification I think we can realistically hope for. The fact that she's younger than 70 helps as well.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121740486#Comment_121740486

I mean turning the US presidency into a succession of people elected almost entirely on their charisma as opposed to being serious political thinkers and statespeople. Intellectually, I think it's a race to the bottom, even the ones on the Democratic side are quite positive people. Charisma is a great quality for a leader, but having proper experience needs to be in there as well.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121740515#Comment_121740515

I don't disagree. I'm just anticipating the bad faith arguments from the MAGA brigade.

AbusesToilets

While I appreciate Obama as an eloquent speaker and seemingly good person, I was massively disappointed in him as a President. He wasted 2 years of a Democratic majority, and allowed the Republicans to railroad him at a time when he could have pushed for genuinely transformative policies.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058335251/whats-going-on-with-michelle-obama

The big question is "what's going on with the alt right", but we kind of already know what.

markodaly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121740486#Comment_121740486

Trump a Nazi?

I don't really like that guy but come on, at least speak some truth.

ceadaoin.

It would be nice to have a normal person in the running but I don't think she has ever indicated that she wants to be a politician, let alone run for president? She seems happy enough with her life right now, imo she'd be mad to take that on.

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121739744#Comment_121739744

Why would she attach herself to a guaranteed losing ticket?

Ash.J.Williams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121740423#Comment_121740423

Bill burr has a lot to say on that 😀

Hande hoche!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121740758#Comment_121740758

You may underestimate the GOP's ability to find someone capable of losing. Purely theoretical at this point.

_Kaiser_

So Barack is looking for a 4th term then is he?

It's more sad that America has been reduced to a choice of two massively polarising options (Biden and Trump) or a bunch of also-rans for the most important and high profile job in their Government.

No matter who wins, America loses really.

Gusser09

Listening to an interesting pod. They could possibly go down the actor route again with Denzel Wahington, tom hanks and meryl streep suggested.

I can see the point. The POTUS doesnt really run the country anymore. Its merely a figure head.

ceadaoin.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121741513#Comment_121741513

Lol wasn't it going around on Twitter a while ago that Dwayne Johnson was in talks with the democrats? At least he'd be able to defend the white house if needs be

Furze99

Trump would have a complete meltdown if this happened. Imagine having to run against a woman again and a coloured woman to boot, he'd surely lose the plot.

JP Liz V1

Can Biden's current VP not run?

A female President would be nice

I like Michelle but I don't think she has interest

No Oprah or The Rock running 😄

Hande hoche!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121741740#Comment_121741740

His last (significant) opponent for the Republican nomination is a woman of colour. He isn't taking it particularly well.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121741487#Comment_121741487

Firstly, there's no indication that she intends to run at all so I don't really see it happening any time soon. Secondly, she's her own person, outside of Clinton there's been pretty credible first ladies that could have run for president, Eleanor Roosevelt being the most significant and born in a different time I could have seen her running. Politically speaking, Biden is pretty middle ground rather than polarising btw.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058335251/whats-going-on-with-michelle-obama

TLDR nothing, the right is just having a bad week so they rile the base with crap

Hande hoche!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121741821#Comment_121741821

As regards VP Harris, she might chose to run in 2028. It's difficult to phrase it without sounding particularly mean but will try. She isn't very popular at all, her approval ratings are consistently lower than most of the rivals for the job. Additionally her staff turnover is very high. Reasons given are pessimistic outlook of her future prospects and feelings that she is given the more unpopular assignments.

eightieschewbaccy

This is also a particularly stupid as theories go given the fact that the primaries have already kicked off.

Goldengirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121741689#Comment_121741689

Sounds like a movie script!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121739744#Comment_121739744

I don’t think she would have the same baggage, and make the same mistakes Hilary did. Also, there is a good chance that if the FBI hadn’t opened an investigation into Hilary just before the 2016 election, Trump would not have won.

It really astonishes me that Biden and Trump are their parties candidates, says a lot about the dire state of American politics that there isn’t younger, more capable front runners in both parties.

Hande hoche!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121742089#Comment_121742089

You get to skip the primaries and go straight to the smoke filled rooms at the conventions. Conspiracy theories for the shorter attention spans of the contemporary populace.

Hande hoche!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121742154#Comment_121742154

Find it astonishing myself that in a nation of that size, that it is a strong possibility of a re-run of 2020.

mickdw

I don't know what happened Kamala Harris in office.

I can only assume that Biden has kept her in the background in fear of her running against him this time.

She has been completely invisible.

Had she had a good vice presidency, she would have been the obvious choice I'd have thought.

As it stands, they have handed the gig to the Donald.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121742232#Comment_121742232

Would a VP run against an incumbent President?

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121742232#Comment_121742232

Failure to live up to hype, way too many politicians become avatars for every hope, dream and delusion that they can't possibly live up to it.

AMKC

I think Michelle Obama would make a great president.

Very dissapointed in Kamala Harris. You barely see or hear anything from her these days.

I think there was at one stage a theory Kamala would run in the second term as Biden is clearly not very capable.

It’s interesting to see him on one hand excuse his keeping of top secret documents as he is “an old man with memory problems” while simultaneously being the front runner for the democrats.

They are sort of just betting on the country having enough sense not to elect Trump, but then that said, look at the results of primaries despite his history and also the court cases he’s currently dealing with.

One of which has found him liable to pay millions to someone he is accused of raping.

America is currently considering electing for a second term either a president who has been convicted in a civil court of rape or one who is by their own admission an elderly man with a bad memory.

You could not make this up.

Water John

Real pity Taylor Swift isn't 35 until Dec 13th. Her name would really wind them up.

JVince

I'm hoping M Obama goes for it. Biden just a little past his BB date as is Trump.

A good running mate and Taylor swift giving her support and it's a near certainty.

My €20 bet at 40/1 last September has nothing to do with the above made up scenario 😁

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121739698#Comment_121739698

At most one terms left? Not sure if you referring to his age or simply stating the obvious

magicbastarder

does america need more political dynasties? in recent history we've seen two bushes and nearly two clintons.

Water John

Michelle has a higher ability than Barack. She is also more liberal. That's why people are disappointed with Barack, he wasn't radical in his thinking. Don't think there's a hope she'll go for it.

seenitall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121742353#Comment_121742353

Fortunately, we are living through one of the calmer periods in history. Things are not too turbulent on the world stage, so the stakes with the choice of POTUS are not that high!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121742232#Comment_121742232

What were you expecting?

Kamala Harris was a nothing candidate before becoming VP.

She has carried out her vice-presidency exactly as she carried out her time as senator...entirely uninteresting and forgettable.

seenitall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121742702#Comment_121742702

She is an administrator, not a leader.

She could however end up the POTUS easily through sheer happenstance.

Rjd2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121742702#Comment_121742702

She us similar to Haley she has no base bar donor's.

Biden could have picked Whitmer as VP who he could have passed the baton to, or ideally Warren who was heavily linked to the VP slot but I suppose she was way to lefty for the Dem donor's.

They need someone who can go in and absolutely floor Trump. They never put anyone forward like that.

A stand up comedian type personality would absolutely destroy him in 5 minutes.

Biden may have been a good candidate 25 years ago but he is simply far too old. There are some very energetic and sprightly 81+ year olds. He isn’t one of them.

beachhead

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121739744#Comment_121739744

Anything to dig up on Michelle?

beachhead

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121741437#Comment_121741437

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silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121743104#Comment_121743104

Yeah, the constant shock and outrage doesn’t work. Trump is so thin skinned all they need is someone to keep poking him.

FortuneChip

I reckon the Democrats don't wanna waste a good candidate's potential 8 years in office by dragging them through the dirt with Trump.

Hope for the best with Joey while preparing for 2028.

jackboy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121743280#Comment_121743280

If Joe does win the chances of him lasting full term is low. The choice of vice president is critical and there is a good chance they will end up as president. At the same time they cannot choose someone who will completely overshadow Biden during the campaign as that will damage him. Michelle might be seen as 'too good'. They need to pick someone good but low key.