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Who pays for TB test

  • 29-01-2024 8:34am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭


    Had a neighbour down in Feb 2023 and paid for tb test.

    Did a private tb test on some calves in jul 2023

    Another neighbor down in Dec 2023 so did a test and got a bill for TB test again.

    Are these mandatory TB test expenses covered by the department?



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭grass10


    You only pay for your first tb herd test each year dept pays after that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,489 ✭✭✭✭whelan2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭grass10


    Correct I know all about it I've never had tb but have a couple of dairy herds beside me who are constantly showing up with tb I'm on 4 month testing with a couple of years and it's really annoying as these reasonably big dairy herds are always short of grass and the cows bellow with the hunger all summer on grass and are clearly stressed and then they blame badgers for their issues, my opinion is its the 2 legged badgers that's the problem



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Sugarbowl


    It says on the letter you get from the department requesting you to test, who will be paying for it. I was called for a 4 month test recently and looks like I am paying myself. The dept paid for 2 tests last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    I know all about it too I am on a 4 month testing program thanks to a large neighbouring farm that is rented to a dealer / cull cows finisher for the last few years. You pay for one full heard test in any rolling 10 month period & you obviously pay for private tests.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭Seadin


    If the department requests you to test because your neighbour has gone down. They cover the fee from my experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    But only in a 10 month rolling period posted by anto. Thought it would've been 12 months. Then 2 months would mean a lot if herds were down around you regularly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 652 ✭✭✭GNWoodd


    Leaving aside the issue of who pays for the testing ;Would animals in the 4 month testing programme be tested three times within twelve months and how long does that go on for ?

    Have a neighbour who has been tested three times within eleven months and Department insisting he cannot sell until he is tested yet again . That would be four times within fourteen months . He had an animal with a lesion last Autumn but no other issue in previous decades .

    Worth contesting ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭epfff


    Nope

    Tested late January 23 April 23 June 23 September 23 and last week all clear.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    it was always 2 clear tests (60 days apart)after a reactor



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 652 ✭✭✭GNWoodd


    I don’t understand

    So after five clear tests you are still restricted ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    @GNWoodd yes an animal could ( & i often had that situation) be tested 3 times within any 12 month period. But once you have no reactors you can keep selling so its no issue that way. If you are due a test tomorrow and your herd is clear and your cattle are in test then you could sell an animal today without any issue. However if you had a reactor on tomorrow's test then the person who bought your animal would be restricted until they test that animal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 319 ✭✭Rusheseverywhere


    epff prob in contingous testing, testing every 4 months for 2 years, tb black spot or bad break down. He is not restricted



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    You have never had TB, well lucky you, we have had several breakdowns and it’s soul destroying seeing your cattle go down, loosing 8 incalf suckler heifers out of 10. Nobody goes out and infects their animals with TB and can be very hard on the health, one family friend has recently being depopulated of his herd of 180 animals after 3 tests in row going down and is in serious bad form over it, at the end of the day it’s an industry for vets, dept staff, haulers etc and still no answers or vaccine after how many years, the department don’t want to make any effort to cull deer and in our area are culling vaccinated badgers and the latest the zero grazer is to blame. Sorry about the rant but until you have to live with TB and seeing herds being depopulated you should be glad it hasn’t come to your door.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,209 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Sadly you’re right. The dept have no interest in fixing the issue as this is money for jam and now they’re trying to push the full cost to the farmers. Thankfully our Orgs are fighting this. A comment I hear regularly is how can a Covid test and vaccine be created quickly to be almost 100% accurate but TB testing accuracy can’t be improved given it was implemented long before most of us were born



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭grass10


    I agree with you on the points you make but at the end of the day the vet's are not 1 bit interested in solving it when I point out to vet's about cattle being under nourished and under stress and clearly hungry because people just want to have x hundred cattle on their farm for ego purposes and its affecting all the neighbours who look after their cattle to a high standard it's very annoying, I'm also aware of a herd that's looking to be depopulated for financial reasons and probably don't care who they affect their is many different aspects to all this tb shambles



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    The vets are only agents of the department, if you have a problem with your neighbours report then to the SVI in your local ERAD department office, is there a bit of trolling here. Clearly don’t understand the TB testing regulations as regards depopulation of a herd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 264 ✭✭grass10


    What % of a herd already gone down with tb would normally lead to full depopulation



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