CCS2 to CHAdeMO adapter

ELM327

On the sharing front then you get into timeshare issues where everyone wants it in July and no one in December etc.

I don't think it would ever pay for itself with renting it out either. At current prices it's a novelty or convenience item, rather than something that makes economic sense.

slave1

Surely an old 24 leaf wouldn't be able to take a massive rapid charge in any case, probably in the 20s kW, as ELM said, an overpriced novelty, there are still plenty of CHAdeMOs

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122166699#Comment_122166699

10 to 80% in mine is like 10-12kWh, If I could get it fitted with 11/22kW AC it would be a better spend

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122168327#Comment_122168327

Range Therapy advertised 3 phase charging at one point but not sure if it ever materialised.

Thinking outside the box for a minute. If you could get a 22kW AC/DC adapter. IE you rock up to an ecars pedestal, plug one end into the type 2 AC pedestal and the other into your Chademo port to charge at 22kW. Presume you'd need a box somewhere along the cable but potentially a cheaper option than a ccs/chademo adapter, and it would open many more fast charging locations

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122168551#Comment_122168551

I wouldnt give those fools at range therapy the light of day but that's another story.

There is an adapter than does exactly what you want. It costs over 5k from Setec. (I investigated it years ago!!)

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122168593#Comment_122168593

Range therapy seem to be more concerned with their range trailer lately anyway

5k? Ouch! Definitely not worth it

zg3409

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122168551#Comment_122168551

I believe range therapy guy has just that box. 22kW AC to DC, large box, it was for sale again at one point. I think they said it would not work on ESB ecars public chargers for some reason but would work on standard 3 phase factory supplies. Again a bit slow not really ideal for fast charge, too fast for overnight charge.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122173632#Comment_122173632

Curious that it wouldn't work on an ecars unit. Not much use for speed but for availability it's great as every AC point in the country would become (an admitedly slow) Chademo charger

Red Silurian

https://evoffer.com/product/600v-200a-ccs2-to-chademo-dc-adapter/

€650 from this website that I have never heard of before

My initial thinking is buyer beware but anybody with more insight is most welcome

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122251374#Comment_122251374

Their customer support is on Telegram!

As always with sites like that, buy with card/PayPal/other buyer protection.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122253623#Comment_122253623

Sorry for the ignorance but I'm not familiar with telegram… Is that a good or a bad place for their customer support?

ELM327

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122253632#Comment_122253632

Telegram is like the who's who for dodgy people. Often used by far right or far left political loons that are banned from everywhere else. Think like Truth Social (Donald Trump's twitter alternative).

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122253649#Comment_122253649

Ok so my main concern at first was that the adapter would damage my car, buying with Paypal isn't much good in that instance.

Now with this included I'm sorely tempted to steer clear

ELM327

I doubt it would damage your car. The risk here is that it doesn't work as intended. I'm happy to see the prices becoming cheaper. If there was that price from a more reputable looking seller I'd buy it. I paid similar for my CCS adapter for the model S.

zg3409

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122251374#Comment_122251374

No mention on website which country it ships from. If you assume Hong Kong then duty and vat will apply. Website is rough and missing faq.

If it has similar software to the one tested in Northern Ireland then, as per this thread, it's likely it won't work on lots of Irish chargers and that issue may only be possible to fix on the charger side of things and not by updating software on the adapter.

At least the other crowd selling it had some Irish and European public tests. I would hold off for as long as you can.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122253992#Comment_122253992

Maybe I'm overly cautious but I'm always careful with electronic devices from questionable sources, moreso when that electronic device takes massive current and voltage and is plugged in to my car. The CE mark in one of the photos does get me thinking I'm being overly cautious

zg3409

From Facebook (not me) (note ESB ecars have lots of different brand chargers so may not work on all)

I started testing one yesterday down here in Cork.

So far it's worked on two out of three CCS2 chargers.

ESB (Delta) - yes

EasyGo (ABB) - yes

EasyGo (Tritium) - no

I haven't yet gone through the debug process of logging the handshake data between car and charger and sending it back to the manufacturer so they can create a firmware update for me to try. Conrad tells me the Tritium chargers can be tricky and take a few iterations.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122895117#Comment_122895117

I'd be very interested to hear if they work on Tesla SCs or Circle K chargers, purely from a reliability point of view.

Overall it seems like a decent well built product to be fair. We have a Leaf in the house and will probably hold on to it for a while so mulling this over. €1k+ is a lot to spend if it doesn't work though

zg3409

In terms of UK seller of adapter for 600 euro a guy called Conrad Wu from one of the UK Leaf groups.(Sells on eBay) He drives a Leaf himself, and he's filed a lot of incompatibility reports with the manufacturers and got firmware updates back from them to resolve. Some chargers, Tritium/Veefil in particular on different networks, seem to take a few attempts. For example his UK firmware (that works on UK Tritium chargers) doesn't work on Easygo Tritium chargers here. I'm on the third firmware iteration of testing atm. (From another group)

...Ghost...

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122914038#Comment_122914038

In fairness, some people have trouble with chargers and it's their own stupidity, not the equipment. Only last week, I was waiting to topup the Model 3 at the Blanchardstown SC fast charger. All spaces full. A woman in a Model 3 was had the CCS charger cable in hand and I don't know what she was doing, but she didn't plug in. I thought she was ending the charge, because by his stage, I had been stopped and waiting a good 5 minutes. Then she was plugging her type 2 cable into the car and tried connecting to the charger. She got into her car with the cable and drove off, shouting to me that the charger is offline.

I parked, tapped and plugged in. No problem. Charge started right away. No doubt she was complaining about broken chargers, but sometimes, its human error and nothing else.

I'd have offered help, but I was not parked up in a parking spot and an ID4 taxi was waiting to take the next free charger, so my finger was on the trigger. I also wasn't sure what was happening until she was leaving and shouted about the broken equipment.

ELM327

I'd probably rephrase stupidity as user error caused by bad UX. But I agree with the rest. GIGO is the cause of most charger "errors" I see these days.

I've done it myself too in my novice days back in 2015.

zg3409

From other forum : The Easygo Tritium works now. Tested an ePower ABB too this evening and that works.

slave1

worst I saw was a lady charging via the AC plug as that is what the garage told her to do when "fast charging", I asked her why she was doing this with an available CCS plug? She (and the garage) had never opened the top charging flap on the car to reveal the CCS connection. I showed her how and she went from hours "fast" charging (to basically get home) to 10m odd

zg3409

Just in today.