Pro Palestinian marchers pure hypocracy

MakersMark

I note the so called peace marchers in Dublin today.

https://www.thejournal.ie/palestine-protest-dublin-6271212-Jan2024/

I wonder how many will turn up to protest the Chinese Premier this month when he visits Ireland.

The Chinese regime has murdered and imprisoned millions of Muslims in a real genocidal campaign.

Funny how the lefties only care about people when it's the Jewish state doing the killing.

Still, it's good for the virtue signalling I suppose.

SuperBowserWorld

I'm sure there are lefties and righties at this march. Not everything is black and white, on or off, we don't live in a binary/digital world. It's an analogue universe.

So, if you are horrified at the innocents being slaughtered in Gaza, have a heart, brain or even a soul, you might lend your support to this march, or at least say nothing.

Donald Trump

Did you start a thread about China when there were marches for Israel? You accuse the marchers of something you are guilty of yourself.

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2023/10/15/former-minister-denounces-the-third-reich-in-dublin-during-pro-israel-rally/

(hypocrisy btw)

Padre_Pio

How dare people get outraged about only one thing. Don't they know that once you protest one thing, you need to protest everything!!

Wolf359f

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058331093/pro-palestinian-marchers-pure-hypocracy

The 'lefties' as you want to call them had public protests against the US war in Afghanistan, against the US war in Iraq, against the Russian war in Ukraine and against the Israeli war in Gaza.

You may spot a trend there and it's absolutely nothing to do with only caring when 'It's the Jewish state doing the killing'

Stark

So Israel's only defence here is whataboutery? "They get to kill innocent people, why can't we?".

pjohnson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610713#Comment_121610713

"Free Gaza from Hamas".

Yep that sign will certainly upset some of the "pro-palestinians"

bucketybuck

I have no idea why anybody is marching in Dublin about Palestine, just what exactly is it supposed to achieve? Do these people think that anybody important gives a single shite what the people of Ireland think about the situation in Gaza?

Self important virtue signalling nonsense. Get on a **** flight to Israel and do something there if you truly have the courage of your convictions.

noodler

I'm not sure how useful it is to tell someone to try and change nothing if they can't change everything.

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610795#Comment_121610795

Nothing stopping you from making your own sign and joining them pjohnson.

Or are you guilty of the same "hypocrisy" in not protesting each and every cause equally?

fullstop

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058331093/pro-palestinian-marchers-pure-hypocracy

Super edgy, bro 😎

nachouser

Can someone edit the thread title to "hypocrisy"?

Yeah yeah yeah - good on them getting out an protesting against the murderous scumbag bloodthirsty Israeli regime.

Finty Lemon

Most people on the march don't give a shyte about Palestinian people. Just another 'cause' to help further their own.

Annasopra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610921#Comment_121610921

Their own what?

Padre_Pio

I really don't understand threads like these.

Getting all bothered because people you don't know are protesting a cause you don't care about and doesn't affect you.

Gatling

Bit like boards types happy to latch on to the latest lefty trending # but that's where it ends ,

Professional whiners waving there Palestinian flag telling us about genocide while absolutely ignoring all the other bad things going on in the world,

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610940#Comment_121610940

They could organise a counter march if they are against the objective of this or any other political march. It is just lazy and easier to tar protestors who they disagree with as hypocrites.

Padre_Pio

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610944#Comment_121610944

"Ignoring all the other bad things going in the world."

Like the other 99.99% of the Irish population

Isn't that what a protest is? Waving flags and marching to show discontent. What else would you like them to do?

AllForIt

Was up in the city last Saturday for the afternoon. They were protesting outside American business, Starbucks, fast food joints etc, chanting 'shame on you shame on you'. What struck me is how naff protests are, I'd never witnessed one in person before.

They were stereotypical looking leftys and well off too juddering by the way they were dressed. One woman looked like a typical Brown Thomas customer. Clearly wanted to look her best for the occasion.

Pretty sad the way things are going that there are now people in this country that want to drag us into events going on aboard. That's all part of the multicultural thing isn't it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610959#Comment_121610959

It's hardly just an event though. It's genocide. And it will be found to be such at the ICJ.

I'd call that a bit more than an event?What do you think should happen. Everyone stay quiet and do nothing?

Jesus people have become so desensitised its crazy.

AllForIt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610980#Comment_121610980

What do I think should happen? Well I'm not offering any opinion on what should happen, it has nothing to do with me.

What I do know isn't going to have any effect is shaming people eating a Big Mac in a country in the west of Europe.

A Dub in Glasgo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058331093/pro-palestinian-marchers-pure-hypocracy

I assume you are concerned about the Chinese Premier visit to Ireland? I also assume you have organised a protest or are attending a protest?

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121611030#Comment_121611030

what if he hasn't? what if his particular thing is what's happening in palestine? what if that's what horrifies him the most right now? are these people out protesting not allowed feel strongly about what's happening in palestine because other stuff is happening elsewhere?

the wokies are only doing it for their instagram of course, except people went out protesting about global events way before social media in ireland.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610959#Comment_121610959

Wait, Ireland has always had a pretty clear position on Palestine that goes back decades. We also have had a pretty clear position on injustices. Eg the dunnes strikes under Apartheid. And I imagine posters such as yourself would have been complaining about them back in the day as well.

Danzy

It's the idle rich, this is what they are amusing themselves with at the moment, they'll move on to something else shortly.

In a way they aren't being hypocritical, the topic isn't that important to most of them either way.

AllForIt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121611047#Comment_121611047

The state voicing i's opinion on situations abroad is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about protests on the ground desinged to get eveyone involved like forcing peolpe to boycott American business in Ireland for example.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610980#Comment_121610980

Do nothing?

Still nobody has been able to tell me what these protesters are actually "doing".

I know they are waving flags for their instagram profiles, but what on earth are they supposed to be achieving through these protests?

Anybody?

BlueSkyDreams

Does anyone know what the route for these marches are and why it constantly cancels Luas services every Saturday?

Been going on for weeks now.

Is it not possible to divert the route so that it doesnt cancel Red and Green Luas services?

robbiezero

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121611104#Comment_121611104

They are raising awareness.

Awareness of themselves.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121611104#Comment_121611104

why do you think people in ireland did this kind of thing before instagram, like in the 90s, or during apartheid south africa?

do you not think massive protests around the world could possibly sway a government behaving badly, like israel, to clean up their act a bit? maybe you don't but these people probably do, so for that reason alone it's worth it.

Cyclonius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610959#Comment_121610959

Of course they were well dressed! You need to be dressed your best for all the selfies, and other social media self-promotion. Where are your priorities man?!?!

osarusan

The "why weren't they previously posting against Y?" argument is either deliberately dishonest, or else put forward by the thickest of the thick.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610954#Comment_121610954

Stop worrying about Palestinians who would sooner cut their throats and behead non-beleivers or because they are members of the LGBT community,

Worry about the **** hole this country is turning into thanks to decisions made in Brussels

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610959#Comment_121610959

I'm boycotting any goods/ services that are of Israeli origin. Any orders received from Israel will be politely declined with a note advising them why.

Sudden Valley

The same posters who are criticising this march are criticising the Irish for not marching in favour of israels actions now. I didn't see them coming out criticising marches that were against the Russian invasion of Ukraine, so they are just obviously pissed off that the Irish are not pro Israeli and trying a lazy argument of hypocrisy.

Cluedo Monopoly

People that have defended Israel's actions since the Hamas attacks must be very embarrassed at this point.

Fr Tod Umptious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121611179#Comment_121611179

This

I don't get all this support for the Palestinians.

The Palestinians view on society when it comes to religion, women, "progressive ideas" is about a million miles from the view of the people protesting in support of them.

Equally id love a shower of Palestinian male refugees rock up to Ireland and the government decides to put them somewhere, I wonder where the support will be then.

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121611179#Comment_121611179

Which decisions?

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610959#Comment_121610959

Well everyone knows Big Starbucks is the main player in the Military Industrial Complex. I hop you’re not insinuating that these people don’t really care about Palestine but just want people to think they care. Shame on you.

suvigirl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121611303#Comment_121611303

It's just that ingrained republican view that somehow Ireland and Palestine are the same and Israel are The big bad Brits. Complete lack of individual thought

Finty Lemon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121611224#Comment_121611224

Nope.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121611082#Comment_121611082

Eh, the dunnes strikes were related to the public campaigning for boycotts that resulted in the state banning the import of goods from South Africa. You can be annoyed by them doing so but it's not remotely new as a concept in the nation. The state realistically isn't going to boycott US businesses btw.

And that decades long stance on Palestine has generally been a reflection of public opinion.

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121611303#Comment_121611303

No one likes to see such a one sided conflict with outrageous damage and casualties being inflicted on a civilian population trapped within a small region. It's disgusting and Israel is not worthy of membership of civilised society.

You're correct though, there would be no appetite here for large numbers of Palestinian refugees. It's unlikely to be an issue since the borders are sealed and the slaughter is contained within. No one is getting out.

Fr Tod Umptious

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121611388#Comment_121611388

It's disgusting and Israel is not worthy of membership of civilised society.

The problem is, neither is an Hamas lead Palestine.

That's what these people on the streets with their flags seem to be missing.

As another poster said, a lack of individual thought.

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058331093/pro-palestinian-marchers-pure-hypocracy

What time should we meet you for the anti Chinese premier protest that you're organising?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610838#Comment_121610838

Or better still, to pointless whataboutery.

Sudden Valley

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121611417#Comment_121611417

You could say that about the pro israeli side too. How many of them ever criticise the Israeli action, They have set no limits for how Israel should limit civilian casualties. No individual thought, just tow the Israeli government line.

SeanW

There does indeed seem to be double-standards around Israel.

In 2020, there were 17 United Nations General Assembly resolutions condemning Israel and literally only 6 for all other issues in the world. There does seem to be a special hatred for Israel among leftists, dictatorships, anti-Semites etc.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/12/24/un-condemns-israel-most-in-2020-almost-three-times-rest-of-world

Curious why little Israel attracts so much hate.

Quantum Erasure

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610980#Comment_121610980

It's genocide. And it will be found to be such at the ICJ.

Doubt

AndrewJRenko

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610959#Comment_121610959

How should people dress for such marches?

mazdamiatamx5

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121610959#Comment_121610959

While I agree that shouting at McDonalds and Starbucks is pointless, your last paragraph displays an utter ignorance of Irish history. The Irish have always been engaged with the outside world. For example did you know that among the foreign fighters in the Spanish Civil War, one of the largest contingents was from Ireland? Most apparently on the pro-Franco side but many on the Republican side.