Problem selling nearly new MG4

Brian_dub_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121545870#Comment_121545870

Ouch…looks like I’ll be taking an inevitable hit…will probably wait 6 months at this stage, pay off some more of the finance and hopefully get a bit of a bonus in work to put onto the deposit.

wonder is pcp with a Tesla a good idea, I’d struggle to keep to the 20k km over the 3 years, but at least there’s a guaranteed trade in price at the end…

gammon199

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121545735#Comment_121545735

What's priced correctly though? 20k?

If dealers are offering 23k for much nicer 222 plates 77kWh Cupra Bjorns and VW are having a firesale with all the ID range so that they may survive.

Why would Graham Walker take it? He will also know the music is about to stop, and he's not going to be left holding the bag 

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121545763#Comment_121545763

Any M3 ordered since late last year is the highland. The LHD car the OP referenced is the highland model.

gammon199

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121545876#Comment_121545876

Tesla have very high interest rates and terrible GMFV on pcp's

Teslas only make sense if you can buy for cash, they get bank loans off AIB.

If your doing finance you go to VW and the autogiants.

My advice would be to go to VW, they will give you an ID range car like an ID4 for 40k or so, 0% finance and a good GMFV on a pcp and in 3 years time the market will be more settled.

VW won't want your MG though, they'll offer what its worth.

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121545546#Comment_121545546

There are Exclusive Long Range models from dealers for €34k before discounts

There is an Exclusive Long Range from a private seller for €33k before discounts, which has been for sale for 45 days and will not sell at that price.

If you want any chance of selling it you need to be advertising it at €30k or below, and be prepared to negotiate another couple of grand off the price.

And even then, all it takes is a couple of dealers to reduce their asking prices and all of a sudden your car is over priced

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/34304913

https://www.donedeal.ie/view/34677365

crl84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121545607#Comment_121545607

Correct.

First ones only landed in Ireland and got to dealers this time last year, and went out to customers in January. The only 222 ones are ex-demo cars. Even then, there were only a few shiploads in the first half of 2023, the vast majority sold last year were from June onwards.

JPA

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121545674#Comment_121545674

The LKA is a problem, just turn it off.

Of course the windows fog up when it's cold, that's just driving in Ireland.

All the issues could be fixed with software.

Most people getting an MG4 do so because of the value, and cannot or will not pay more.

If you had the choice between an MG4 or a M3 in the first place why did you go MG?

crl84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121545674#Comment_121545674

Have you had it booked in and got all the latest updates for it?

There was an update for LKA that made it less sensitive. It still comes on by default as that's a EuroNCAP requirement for 5-star rating for new car models submitted for testing since mid-2022. You can set the Welcome greeting when you start the car to say "Turn off Lane Keep" or something to remind you. I programed the left star button on the steering wheel to go straight to MG Pilot too. Complain about it to the dealer and see if they'll update it.

The latest software version for the Excite actually has the ability to turn LKA off on a single icon, when you pull down the homescreen, see images in this thread: https://www.mgevs.com/threads/the-mg4-se-1100r33-infotainment-thread.14571/

I wouldn't be surprised if the next software version for the Exclusive has this ability too. Clearly it's someething MG have been getting feedback on if they've added it to the Excite software....

Pre-warm when plugged in and not charging has been fixed in a recent module software update, I saw people mentioning it on the mgevs forum.

I think I saw someone mention the aircon reading being adjusted in the most sotware update too, but can't be sure as I just always have it around 25-28 when it's cold.

The most recent Infotainment software update version for Exclusive is R46. Check on the head unit in the settings/about section, the last 3 digits of the Entertainment software version number. If it's not, complain to the dealer about Bluetooth unpairing, radio stations forgetting the favourites, along with the LKA sensitivity and pre-heating not available while plugged in but not charging,, and they should book it in for updates. Just make sure they actually update to R46 when they do it (note that is just the Infotainment version, LKA updates and other updates can be done without the Infotainment number changing). If you still have UK road sign speeds showing by default, compain about that too as that is solved with an update.

It seems that unless you specifically list issues for the dealer to fix, they can't/won't do all required updates, as they get paid by MG to do whatever needs to be done, and anything else is at their discretion and are essentially doing it for free on their own time....

Linders and FK Dublin seem to be kind of hopeless at updating to the latest versions, unless you specifically list your issues. They just hook the car up and check for updates on some central MG server, and then assume everything is up to date, even when it's not. Sheils Limerick seem more competent, with their service centre doing Infotainment updates via USB key, see this person's account for instance: https://www.mgevs.com/threads/mg4-software-update-thread.7699/post-250069

If your aircon screen is still the one below, then it's not on the latest infotainment version (new one is a lot more basic looking, but arguably less fiddly and easier to use)

SharkMX

Prices are coming down. Just picked up a 2023 Cupra born 58kwh with 6.5k on it just before Christmas for €27k.

Owner said he persuaded the wife to go for a Tesla so thats why they were selling.

Grumpypants

I took out my ZS to test the lane keep assist just to make sure I wasn't dreaming and it's perfect. Beeps up to the line and then the turn in is gentle. I do remember it being a OTT at the start but recent updates have fixed lots of the initial issues.

Basilio

You are not alone. Looks like this one for sale quite a long time. Just contact seller and find for yourself is there any interest and what was the highest offer. About a year ago Unkel was promoting MGs, now BYD. After a test driving MG in Feb 2023 I did buy 4 years old low mileage Kona as it was a better value to me.

crl84

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121546974#Comment_121546974

Can't imagine there's much interest at that price when 3k more will get you a brand new one from a dealer....

Basilio

Another one

zg3409

OP, buying any brand new car then trading it in shortly after is always an expensive game. Sounds like you now want to buy another brand new car so again you are buying a very high depreciating asset at the worst time for depreciation (the first minute you walk out of the showroom).

You can sell cars on done deal but should be clean, good ad, ideally located in Dublin and available to view 24/7. If you don't want the hassle as suggested get it professionally cleaned. A friend or relation may put up.the ad on done deal for you and deal with all the calls and messages. Throw them 2 or 3 thousand if you don't want the hassle.

Think twice before buying a brand new car. Normal depreciation is 20% in year one, 10% all following years but in today's market it's likely deprecation may be even higher with a car market crash likely in the next couple of years, lots of supply, high prices, crazy high interest rates. You could easily lose 10k euro in 6 months if you buy new then sell straight away.

Brian_dub_

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121546796#Comment_121546796

Thanks for the detailed info.

I had it into Linders 2 months after getting the car. Told them LKA was very strong, listed the other issues, they tried to say that it was all normal and that they need to open a ticket with mg in the U.K. for each issue, then they tell them if they can fix it or not. They also tell them to download the infotainment updates each time to the shop laptop which can take hours instead of just keeping them on usb’s. I wanted the latest infotainment update, they said Ireland and uk are on different numbers, just really got the feeling they didn’t want to bother doing anything.

going to book it in for new year, tell them everything that’s wrong, tell them to update all the modules and to put the latest infotainment update on and just not take back the keys until they do it! They just seem like they have far too many cars to pdi/update and aren’t bothered with taking customers back to have stuff fixed.

as a side note, got an email back offering 23,500-25,000 from autobuy. Ideally I want 30k, but I’d take 28…

chrisd2019

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121545612#Comment_121545612

Valuation of cars in the preowned market has change a lot since the covid induced scarcity. As others have said the prices asked for other cars of your model are not realistic also. If you really want to sell it you need to drop your price expectation, and shift it before others also discover the issues that have lead you to sell it on.

Done Deal is used for high value vehicles also, once trust is gained between buyer and seller.

MightyMunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121545823#Comment_121545823

Wouldn't recommend the Enhanced autopilot, save your money! Can always add it on later on with the click of a button.

naughtyboy

There is a big car dealer with showrooms across munster who won't touch any second hand Electric Vehicles

The reason is they have serious problems with the batteries and they do not want to offer any warranty.

But they won't tell that to the public as they are also.trying to sell new Electric Vehicles

I know a chap who knows ford Electric Vans they can't give them away due to the resale value coming down the road in 3 to 5 years. Replacement batteries are just too expensive to make EVs anything but a waste of money

listermint

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121549398#Comment_121549398

Shovel load of nonsense there.

To put it mildly

MightyMunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121549398#Comment_121549398

Doesn't make much sense as there aren't that many EVs outside of manufacturers battery warranty so wouldn't affect the dealer. Dealers don't generally sell older cars that are out of warranty of any drive train.

ted1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121549398#Comment_121549398

you strike me as someone who didn’t get a Covid vaccine, believes the government are spying on you and by saying it’s a peaceful protest while torching a car , that it is in fact a peaceful protest.

joe1303l

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121546328#Comment_121546328

My reasoning to suggest Graham Walker is that he always seems to have a stock of fresh Teslas. He may be willing to take in the MG4 against one or move it on to another trader. Cost to change might work for the OP and would save the grief of a private sale.

...Ghost...

You are going to take a serious hair cut on that MG, especially when 23 becomes 24. I'd tend to agree with another poster though who said shift it if you hate it. I considered MG because of price. No delivery estimate available in early 2022. Ordered Leaf 40 instead on a good deal. Nissan dropped the ball on delivery, finance and price. Ordered a Model 3 and had it within weeks. Love it.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121549398#Comment_121549398

What EV do you own?

eastie17

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121549398#Comment_121549398

Problem with a completely made up, false post like this is that people read it or see it and then think it’s true because it’s similar to some of the other falsehoods put out there recently.

all he needs to do now is create a WhatsApp voice note to make it completely credible

naughtyboy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121549474#Comment_121549474

I am not here to annoy people about EVs, the question was asked about resale values and I just was passing on what I know. Look at the cheaper prices of second hand electric cars on done deal, imagine what the dealers paid the customer.

I don't own one, at my work we were all upgrading this year and we looked at the Audis and tesla. My problem was the warranty offered on the battery was vague. Promised everything but when I requested in writing the terms of the battery warranty so i could see was it for complete failure only or if the capacity percentage dropped below a specified threshold, for example 60 percent, during the warranty period. Was there any conditions and exclusions. I wanted this directly from the dealers.

Never got it so we never bought electric.

MightyMunster

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121549590#Comment_121549590

You mustn't have looked very hard, took me all of 15seconds to find it.

Izzy77

Spot on - a full ev Leon would be perfect. I loved all my leons from 2001 to the newest model. I left it for a cupra born. I've had zero issues with my Born and it ticks all boxes EXCEPT I prefer the look of the Leon. Can't have it all I suppose! I'll have to cope with the looks for a long while yet it seems 🤣

Soarer

To the OP, maybe don't mention the car is a dog in your advert! 😉

naughtyboy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121549606#Comment_121549606

As I said in my post, I wanted it directly from the dealer in writing. Never got it from any dealer.

For clarity Can you link the website you got that info from please.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121549645#Comment_121549645

tesla.com Where else would you think?!

https://www.tesla.com/en_ie/support/vehicle-warranty