Future of Trek

Bigwill1923

I haven't heard of any definite commitments on any shows bar strange new worlds.

Im not watching the last season of discovery.

Picard was largely a disaster until season 3. Stewart takes some blame himself by insisting on new characters in season 1 and not giving out about a convulted script.

Fair enough he didn't want it to be the next generation part 2 but then allowed some **** scripts and it to be Data focused. He was executive producer.

I last heard there was a seven of nine series on the cards. I wouldn't object to that. With Jack Picard

So long as they put some bloody lights on in the ship

Rawr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058327051/future-of-trek

Nothing definitve no. Not beyond Strange New Worlds and possibly another season of Lower Decks. But here's the pipline:

Section 31

There have been noises about everyone's favourite vaporware "Section 31", but that swings from "we're about to shoot and it's going to happen" to deefening silence. Latest is that it'll be some kind of TV Movie. I honestly can't see them still being able to afford Michelle Yeoh as the lead for this (that is, if that was the plan). As with anything sullied with the legacy of Discovery, I suspect it will need to be pretty good to attract an audience. They'd need to at least match Picard S3.

Strange New Worlds

I suspect they'll get at least another season or two out of this. Despite being born from Discovery it is a massive upgrade from the earlier (and thankfully cancelled) show. My gut tells me that they mightn't get much more than maybe 5 seasons out of this either. Once it is done, I do hope they'll cut it out with the prequel stuff. It's been 20 years of it at this stage.

Lower Decks

I would love for them to keep this going forever, but that's too much of an ask. I'd like to see 7 seasons. That would fit into the TNG spirit of the show, and I think they could pull that off. I think we'll get at least one more season, hopefully 2.

Star Trek 4 (The JJ-Verse sequel that is always coming soon)

Like Section 31, there have been noises about this one for years and years and years. It's never likely to happen, and the existence of the JJ-verse films kind of makes it difficult to release a new Trek film set in the original universe without confusing casual viewers. We may not see a Trek film for a very long time...or sadly...ever again.

Starfleet Academy

Any hope on this show I feel depends a lot on when it is set. If they are absolute dimwits, they will do as rumored and set this during the future time of Discovery. If they have any sense at all, they'll set it after Picard S3. It's all down to this I feel.

Star Trek: Legacy (aka The Seven Show)

They hinted at this heavily in Picard S3 and it would be a good move. However I don't trust this crowd to make wise moves like this. It took them two years to realise that Discovery should have stopped at Season 3, I don't have enough faith in them to what is needed to keep the franchise alive. But if they did this, it would probably make for some good Trek. This is possibly the best hope we have for good live-action Trek going forward.

Inviere

God I forgot about the Starfleet Academy show. Didn't Tilly leave Discovery for some Academy position? Was that in the preTOS era or the 30th century timeline?? Either way, it's firmly categorized along with the Section 31 show/film as a "not remotely interested".

SNW can't outrun the fate of Pike forever, so yeah, maybe 1 or 2 seasons before they have to start wrapping that up. Any longer and it gets a little boring as a story arc. Great show though.

Lower Decks, agreed again, no issue with that continuing as long as the standard is high.

JJ stuff makes Discovery appear virtually Shakespearean in quality, but yeah, it appears a dead duck at the moment (no huge loss either, they're largely flat action films with little core to them.)

Legacy, again, no confidence in it being all that good and I'd rather they didn't gamble with it. Picard S3 was a beautifully knit quilt of nostalgia, and while massively refreshing given the previous seasons, it relied HEAVILY on that nostalgia thats been nearly 40 years in the making. Strip that away and it wasn't very creative or inspiring, so I'm not sure the writing chops are there to keep with the momentum.

The future of Trek does seem bleak. The TV landscape is a possible issue, very little time for risk. It seems splosions etc are still the order of merit unfortunately.

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Rawr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121515377#Comment_121515377

Tilly left to join Starfleet Academy in the future. Apparently she was part of an effort to re-establish the Academy, which makes no sense at all. How the hell did future Starfleet even function without an Academy to on-board new Cadets? (Or was the entire fleet made of ad-hoc NCOs and provisional officers?)

But yes, if Starfleet Academy is set in the Burnham-tastic 31st Century; that's an automatic "nope" from me. I really can't be arsed.

That said though, a "Starfleet Academy" show could possibly work. Some Trek gamers of a certain age might remember the excellent "Starfleet Academy" 3D Battle simulator game in the late 90's. It was filled with cinematics and actually managed a decent plot involving the cadets during the TOS movie era. It was cheap as all hell (green-screens galor) but wasn't half bad. A bit more fleshing out and a budget and it could have made for some alright Trek in it's own right.

(I do mean the late 90's Starfleet Academy game. There was another Starfleet Academy game in the early 90's with basic polygon starships which was pretty good too.)

Inviere

@Rawr I remember the game fondly, in fact, I replayed it about 2 years ago. Loved it back in the day, and still enjoyed it recently. It's a product of its time, but definitely managed to capture that TMP era magic.

TheValeyard

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121516855#Comment_121516855

Never, ever

EVER,

fire on the Starbase.

Rawr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121517226#Comment_121517226

Doesn't even matter if it was an accident either....hell hath no fury like a Starbase scorned.

Evade

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121516855#Comment_121516855

Not to defend STD too much but you could still have officers do an Officer Candidate School system. In the US it's basically a three month course for people with bachelors degrees from regular colleges instead of going to the Naval Academy in Annapolis for four years. About half of the full time officers and almost all the reservists un the US Navy are commissioned this way.

On Starfleet Academy in general, it's always been odd that even though we've seen other Starfleet Academy campuses every character seems to have gone to San Francisco.

Inviere

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121525650#Comment_121525650

He's apologising for Discovery....burn him!

😁

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121525650#Comment_121525650

Did we see another campus ?

Evade

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121543082#Comment_121543082

It was implied in TNG's Coming of Age and Menage a Troi and then confirmed in on screen information in Picard's the Star Gazer.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121543156#Comment_121543156

Fair enough I took "seen" to mean that there had been scenes in those places.

TheIrishGrover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121510482#Comment_121510482

Pretty much agree with this totally:

SNW: 5 seasons (Hopefully). With them knowing that S5 was going to be the last by S4 (Which will give them time to wrap up what they need to). Don't think they'll finish with the destiny we know that's ahead of Pike. Not that they'll change it but simply end before that point.

LD: Yeah, prob end with seven seasons. With them all going their own ways to different ships. A bit sad but also hopeful. We can already see that with Mariner this season. Her FINALLY accepting that she needs to move on.

Section 31: Liked their use in DS9 as it was used relatively sparingly. Good idea but prone to camp, even within DS9 (The black outfits, black badges, all arch eyebrows). Again, I did like them in DS9 but in moderation. And I absolutely do NOT want to see a Disco version of S31. My God that would be simply awful. Hopefully Michelle Yeoh is now too high-profile (Well deserved) to do this. Disco version of S31 would be like the Mirror Universe. EVERYONE with a goatee :)

Starfleet Academy: No offence to the actor for Tilly but I don't want to see a Disco academy. Their tech is now simply too advanced and at that level it borders on magic (Yes, I know the quote). They can pretty much do anything they want (Apart from handle blinking it seems). And I don't know if I want an academy series at all. It would run the risk of going down...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_C_PefoE4o

Star Trek Legacy: Would have preferred to see Seven: The Rangers Years (If anything at all). I can't remember if Raffi was stationed on same ship (Don't care). But they had ZERO chemistry as a couple.

Star Trek movie? Not for another 10 years at least.

Similar to something I posted on Star Wars thread, I think there is potential to do a tangential show. A street-level cop show set Picard era (With Tal Shiar crime-lords, illegal genetic modifications, telepathic/empathic species on both sides of the law etc). Wouldn't be quite as compelling as a similar Star Wars show (More scope) but could be interesting. How does crime pay in a post-monetary world. How/why does a normal person work 9-5 in such a world?

Rawr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121546653#Comment_121546653

Tilly was probably the biggest shame of Discovery. I loved her in Season 1, she was the embodiment of what a Trekkie would actually be like if you put them on a starship. But then they applied “The Power of Math, People!” and proceeded to elevate her to Jar-Jar Binks levels of annoyance. If only they handled her development arc better and used the whole show to grow her up to a bridge officer instead of getting her to just run a marathon on the saucer section to *hey presto* make her an officer candidate. If only they had done a better job…then an Academy show around her maybe could have worked. But not now, not at all. An Academy show cannot work in the 31st Century, and not with Tilly either alas.

As for Raffi. God I hope they ditch her if they make a “Legacy” show. She had no chemistry with Seven, not as a girlfriend and certainty not as a First Officer. She really needs replacing if they actually go down this route.

From Star Wars, my biggest surprise has been Andor. Really enjoyed that show and the fresh view we got of the Star Wars galaxy with it. Something similar with Trek might be very good.