Home charger grant dropping from 600-300 from 1/1/2024

zg3409

NOTE: From the 1st January 2024 the Electric Vehicle Home Charger Grant will be lowered to a max claim of €300. All applications received before this date will not be affected. From:

https://www.seai.ie/grants/electric-vehicle-grants/electric-vehicle-home-charger-grant/

Was 600, get application in quickly (can be done online). You don't even need to own an EV but you do need to specify make if charger you intend installing. If you get application approved before end of year you have 6 months to get work completed. It costs nothing to get grant approval, you need the mprn number from an esb bill.

ColemanY2K

PSA....i applied for the grant yesterday evening at 4pm and received an approval email at 10am this morning.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121452529#Comment_121452529

Completely normal. It’s an automated process.

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058325600/home-charger-grant-dropping-from-600-300-from-1-1-2024

Good, EV charger installations are overpriced because of the grant.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121454130#Comment_121454130

It will be interesting to see if prices drop or remain static.

Miscreant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121454580#Comment_121454580

Installation companies will be reluctant to get off that gravy train they have been on for a while. I doubt prices will drop in the short to medium term.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121454607#Comment_121454607

In fairness to them, €1150 or so for supply and fit of a charger, certification etc is not high. Take account of travel, insurance, materials, labour, over heads.

Miscreant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121454617#Comment_121454617

If only it was just €1150. There's usually some unavoidable ad-on somewhere along the way. All of the people I know who got chargers in the past 6 to 9 months paid €1300 or thereabouts for theirs.

I understand that there are business costs but every time there is a grant or tax subsidy in this country, the corresponding service or product goes up accordingly. Property, home improvements, bicycles and anything the government gives money to assist tax payers to purchase, gets absorbed.

Anyway, that is a discussion for another day. :)

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121455010#Comment_121455010

I’ve always used companies that were open and honest up front about their charging.

And no additional charges thankfully. Carcharger.ie was one of them.

these were others. Obviously if there’s other safety concerns such as earth road, bad fuse board, RCBO replacement etc

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121454617#Comment_121454617

You can get EV charge points for €250 wholesale and they only take one man a few hours to install. I bought mine online and had it installed by an electrical company and it only cost about €700 or so all in. They had to add a priority switch to certify it and I got the €600 grant bringing my cost to just €100.

Of course all businesses can charge what they like but I’d imagine supply & fit prices would be a lot lower if there was no grant.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121455402#Comment_121455402

Ohh I know. I bought a few QUBEV units from EVOnestop for €230. Fitted by a RECI mate.

I’ve also bought second hand and got full grant back on other houses making profit like yourself 👍

Bakharwaldog

Any recommendations on someone who can install a charger in Dublin if I buy my own charger?

zg3409

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121455839#Comment_121455839

Off topic but better to get installer to source as they may get discount. Also you may need load sensing model or model that satisfies grant and if you buy yourself it may not be grant approved. There is a different thread for home charger installers, dozens of options, shop around, get quotes, prices vary,you have 6 months.

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121457701#Comment_121457701

Yeah if you want to pay €1,200+ you should get someone to supply & fit. But if you want to half the cost then buying second hand or direct from China is the best way to do it. Obviously theres more effort required this way so it depends on how much you value your time.

user1842

Can someone confirm if the grant covers Tesla wall chargers?

According to the SEAI (via the chat function on their website) it does not as the charger is not on their list.

Also there is no way to manually add it to the online application :(

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121458019#Comment_121458019

It doesn’t.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121457723#Comment_121457723

Who’s paying €1200 plus though? Flogas was €400 recently for example. Exoplex and falkearn €500ish

As an aside, are the Chinese chargers CE marked and can they be installed here and certified by a RECI? Genuine question?

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121458044#Comment_121458044

The one you linked above was €1,135? And that doesn’t include isolation switches for electric showers etc.

All chargers are made in China regardless, so you just have to find one thats CE marked. Theres loads on Alibaba for example.

ted1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121458086#Comment_121458086

Most chargers don’t need priority switches as they have load balancing

isoaltion switches are required for all installations and nothing to do with showers

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121458146#Comment_121458146

Sorry I meant priority switch not isolation switch.

Priority switches are needed to give priority to the electric shower when both of them try come on at the same time, otherwise the power will trip.

And yeah I thought isolation switches were required for all chargers if you want it to be certified, it wasn’t a requirement a few years ago tho.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121458086#Comment_121458086

-600 so nett cost is €535.

All smart chargers have load balancing built in so no priority switches anymore, including the ones I linked above

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121458310#Comment_121458310

Yeah I was talking pre grant. So net cost of supply & fit job is €535 in that case. Whereas net cost of sourcing your own charger and having an electrician fit it could be close to net €0. At least it was when I got mine fitted. Maybe times have changed.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121458331#Comment_121458331

I thought the conversation was around sourcing and paying a sparks mate to fit and not get cert?

Maybe I’ve misunderstood then.

I have RECI mates. They’ve done mine in the past. I’ve bought new from Amazon, EVOnestop and second hand from adverts etc over the years.

User1998

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121458343#Comment_121458343

Oh no, so what I did was I sourced my own charger and found a RECI electrician to install it and sign it off. I think he did it for me cash in hand to keep the cost down but he still signed it off for me. I avoided companies that specialised in EV chargers because I found they were over priced. A standard RECI electrician should only charge a few hours labour to install a charger.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121458397#Comment_121458397

I done similar. Paid €200 for an ABL charger on FB and gave my mate €100 for certification. I had the cable and RCBO done during the renovations. For €600 back 💶

I then got the chance of a Tesla charger for €80 so sold the ABL for €250 on adverts. I swapped them out myself.

That died on my this year though, and got a Zappi for €200 and swapped that out.

paid

ted1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121458269#Comment_121458269

most chargers will have dynamic load balancing which removes the need for a priority switch

TheSunIsShining

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058325600/home-charger-grant-dropping-from-600-300-from-1-1-2024

Are you locked down to the charger make you choose - or is there scope to change it after the application is approved?

fafy

Solar PV grant. is also dropping, from a max of 2,400 in 2023, to a max of 2,100 from 1st January 2024, reducing by €300, and reducing further, in future years.

As far as i know, the vat exemption, on solar PV installations, which was brought in earlier this year, is unchanged.

MadDogGreener

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121459815#Comment_121459815

I installed a different charger from what was in the initial application. Grant application was processed with no problems at all. I had checked with the electrician before installing and he said there was no problem changing. I guess its there to make sure people install an "approved" charger.

PGE1970

I'm going to apply for this as I think that I will buy a Tesla M3 in the new year.

I've never had an EV (or a charger). I propose to put Zappi down as they seem to be recommended but will it matter if I change brands when the time comes?

Thanks!

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121509496#Comment_121509496

No.

PGE1970

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121509730#Comment_121509730

Thanks Gumbo!

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121509759#Comment_121509759

Just be mindful of the time limit to get it installed and payback.

PGE1970

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121509776#Comment_121509776

Thanks; that depends on when the new M3 becomes available to test drive.

I'm hoping Feb/March which should be ok timewise.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121510123#Comment_121510123

Ignore the car. Together higher grant, just get the charger. May as well be sitting there looking at it rather looking for it.

PGE1970

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121510166#Comment_121510166

But if I get approved for the grant, I have six months to get the charger. Is that correct?

does it take that long to get a charger? I presumed a couple of weeks, perhaps a month, but maybe I'm very wrong about that!

Thanks again.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121510193#Comment_121510193

You have 6 months to apply and process the grant payment.

I’m not sure on the lead time for the unit itself. May vary company to company. You’d have to check with your supplier.

PGE1970

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121510219#Comment_121510219

Will do; thanks a million for the advice. Much appreciated.

PureBred

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121458343#Comment_121458343

Did you get the grant on a 2nd hand charger? How did that work?

I've just got approved for the grant.

Also cant see any chargers online south of €500

zg3409

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121510219#Comment_121510219

Lead times for home charger install can vary a lot. Peak times are January due to number of new cars sold. It can easily be a month by the time you get seai grant approval. Get in touch with a few installers. Get a firm quote. Get them to book you in and actually show up. They prefer to do a few in the same area at once so it can be harder if outside Dublin. Try get a few quotes from local people. You have 6 months but beware the installer has to click some buttons on their computer before grant is paid out, probably upload some photos etc don't leave it until last minute.

If you don't get it installed in time you can apply for grant again no issue, except it will be for 300 euro less.

Note normally let the installer source the charger, and it MUST be on the approved list (although some claim they got around this restriction).

If you have a friendly electrician the price can be much lower as many install at rip off prices.

Buffman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121522300#Comment_121522300

The exact same as a new one, just get a receipt from the seller but it's likely the €600 would be eaten up in the installation costs anyway these days depending on the house.

I see a few new ones for sale for around €3-400 which I'd consider reasonable with some haggling possible.

Edit: Just to add there are 'new' rules around which chargers are eligible for the grant regarding 'smart chargers' etc, so make sure it's on their approved list before you buy.

https://www.donedeal.ie/caraccessories-for-sale/ev-car-charger-wallbox-pulsar-plus/35726808

https://www.adverts.ie/other-cars-motorbikes-boats/ev-chargers-x2/32296802

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121522300#Comment_121522300

I did indeed, multiple times.

I bought them from Adverts, The Facebook Group etc

Look through my posts in this thread. I posted many that nett cost is either €395 or €595 depending on unit and work required.

Obviously sales prices will go up and down so you'd have to be ready to jump once an offer is posted, such as the Black Friday offers i posted.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121522665#Comment_121522665

+1

That's why i posted to apply now and get it sorted. Better to be looking at it than looking for it!

PGE1970

For anyone interested, I applied for the SEAI grant last Tuesday and was approved within two hours!

Firblog

Anyone know what's the cheapest approved charger available?

dodzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121528072#Comment_121528072

I’d say the EO mini pro 2 from fokearn (€399 net) is the best available. Note if you apply after Jan 1st, then that’ll jump to €699 net….a bit of a no brainer really to apply before the deadline really. That said, my example above is an untethered unit which many will recommend against primarily for the hassle factor. The tethered starting price is €100 extra - for the Ohme Pro. (5mtr)

zg3409

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121528072#Comment_121528072

When applying for seai grant you can pick any one on the approved list and change to a different one on the approved list later.

Typically it's best to get the installer to provide the charger as they can get discounts and they prefer installing brands they know and can support. Depending on the installation you may need a charger with load sensing and you may buy the wrong one. Cheapest is not always the best.

Gumbo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121528072#Comment_121528072

See if you can still get this offer.

Firblog

Yeah, was filling in the application yesterday, and couldn't proceed without selecting the charger, good to know I can change it afterwards.

PureBred

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121522854#Comment_121522854

Sound, i might be able to get one 2nd hand for 350. What sort of invoice will do in a private sale? Just name address cost etc? Excel job?

obi604

How long after ye submitted grant paperwork did the money appear in your bank account?

I know SEAI says 6-8 weeks - which seems very long, but just wondering the real world time